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Saudi gang-rape victim speaks

posted at 9:18 am on November 27, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Somehow I missed it when it ran last week. The Saudi government claims she confessed this year to having been naked in the car with her male companion when they were attacked, but here’s what she told Human Rights Watch last December:

“I [was] 19 years old. I had a relationship with someone on the phone. We were both 16. I had never seen him before. I just knew his voice. He started to threaten me, and I got afraid. He threatened to tell my family about the relationship. Because of the threats and fear, I agreed to give him a photo of myself,” she recounted.

“A few months [later], I asked him for the photo back but he refused. I had gotten married to another man. He said, ‘I’ll give you the photo on the condition that you come out with me in my car.’ I told him we could meet at a souk [market[ near my neighborhood city plaza in Qatif.

"He started to drive me home. &We were 15 minutes from my house. I told him that I was afraid and that he should speed up. We were about to turn the corner to my house when they [another car] stopped right in front of our car. Two people got out of their car and stood on either side of our car. They man on my side had a knife. They tried to open our door. I told the individual with me not to open the door, but he did. He let them come in. I screamed.

Follow the link for the gory details. It sounds like a set-up arranged by her companion except that she doesn’t name him as one of the attackers. He gets hauled out of the car early on and then disappears from the story.

The Kingdom being the Kingdom, her family naturally sought revenge — on her.

“The criminals started talking about it [the rape] in my neighborhood. They thought my husband would divorce me. They wanted to ruin my reputation. Slowly my husband started to know what had happened. Four months later, we started a case. My family heard about the case. My brother hit me and tried to kill me.”

The Saudis say it was her husband who reported evidence of her affair. What that probably means is it was her husband who relayed this story to investigators and the incident with the photo got trumped up into being naked in the car to justify the “adultery” charge and the subsequent increase in her punishment.

Anyway, be sure to read down to the very end and see what the king’s options are here. The Saudis are making a big show of the independence of their judiciary at the moment but there’s a trace more nuance to it than they’d like us to believe. Exit question: If the judiciary’s independent of the monarchy, how is it that 1,500 “reformed” Al Qaeda jihadis just got paroled at a perfectly politically convenient moment, as the Saudis appear at the Annapolis summit?


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Dumb question:
Why aren’t we hearing from the feminazis about this?
Or any number of women’s rights organizations.

SuperManGreenLantern on November 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM

Dumb question:
Why aren’t we hearing from the feminazis about this?
Or any number of women’s rights organizations.

SuperManGreenLantern on November 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM

Yes that is a dumb question, since it has been asked (and answered) about a trillion times in the last 20 years.

liberrocky on November 27, 2007 at 9:46 AM

Apparently feminism is only appropriate for female white American college grads.

thejackal on November 27, 2007 at 9:57 AM

The Feminist Peace Network had this to say about it:

Why is it that when something like this happens to a woman that you think it is the sole responsibility of feminists to demonstrate against it. Seems to me it that its high time men to get out there and raise a stink as well.

And this is what struck home for the Feminist Bloggers Network (Note that it’s different from the story quoted above):

I don’t think I need to emphasize how disgusting and horrible this is; but I do think it’s interesting that the Western media is reporting that there was a singular rape victim, and saying things like, “Some liberal commentators said her sentence highlighted the justice system’s failure to treat women fairly.”

The Saudi justice system does fail to treat women fairly, there’s no question about that. But here’s what happened:

The young woman’s offense was in meeting a former boyfriend, whom she had asked to return pictures he had of her because she was about to marry another man. The couple was sitting in a car when a group of seven men kidnapped them and raped them both, lawyers in the case told Arab News, a Saudi newspaper.

Emphasis mine. The boyfriend was sentenced to 90 lashes as well; the only information I could find about his sentence was from Arab News, which states that the man decided not to appeal his conviction.

Quisp on November 27, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Exit question: If the judiciary’s independent of the monarchy, how is it that 1,500 “reformed” Al Qaeda jihadis just got paroled at a perfectly politically convenient moment, as the Saudis appear at the Annapolis summit?

Former president BJ Clinton has been paid over $600,000 for speaking engagements in Saudi Arabia. Chances are he devoted a few minutes to the political advantages of pardoning criminals acting against the better interests of the state.

Does the name Marc Rich ring a bell?

They were taught by the best. Der Slimemeister.

fogw on November 27, 2007 at 10:10 AM

If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.

Always Right on November 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Every time you think this story couldn’t get any worse, it does.

Bad Candy on November 27, 2007 at 11:04 AM

So if you hold a door open for a woman in the USA, you are a pig but if you gang rape a woman in Islam it’s her fault.

Meanwhile, the sound of crickets from the Left.

Feminist logic gives me a headache. I guess even militant chicks want cheaper prices at the pumps? I would at least expect a militant group of lesbians to choppah in and rescue her?

Hening on November 27, 2007 at 11:21 AM

She was framed the whole way- from an apparently innocent telephone relationship, she gets blackmailed, then trapped and raped.

This is no less than slavery of the entire female sex in the Kingdom.

gmoonster on November 27, 2007 at 11:30 AM

If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.

Always Right on November 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Brilliant! Simply Brilliant!
The sad thing is no matter how much their insane double standards are mocked, they will not listen.

thuja on November 27, 2007 at 11:36 AM

The left have NOT been silent on this. Sadly, their impetus does not seem to be disgust at Islamic law, but how negligent Bush has been.

uptight on November 27, 2007 at 11:50 AM

So … is the left ready to get on board with a declaration of war on Saudi Arabia?

I didn’t think so.

Kristopher on November 27, 2007 at 12:04 PM

Why can’t she just “repent” for her sins? It seemed to have worked just fine for the 1,500 recently freed jihadists, who will no doubt, be armed and in Iraq by Friday evening prayers.

awake on November 27, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Just bring the victim over here for counseling and treatment.

Defector01 on November 27, 2007 at 1:17 PM

As for those damn feminists I stopped trying to figure out why. They are so damned deranged that anything that can support the conservatives in any way must be suppressed or glossed over. And when the conservatives mention that they should be protesting wand complaining with the conservatives, the feminists gloss over, insult us and then lie outright. The feminists are traitors to their own causes and deserve to be held out as an example of pure mockery.

Defector01 on November 27, 2007 at 1:21 PM

How can you get cival justice from a barbaric society? Not in this lifetime.The Saudi’s play two ends against the middle, they don’t reveal the whole truth to “non-believers”, because the Muslims can say anything to the non-believers without any recourse…The only time a Muslim must tell the whole truth is to another Muslim.
The West will never understand until they realize the nation of Islam must be defeated and it’s ideology must be removed from history. Then, and only then, will you get total peace.

rdpostsr on November 27, 2007 at 3:24 PM

She broke their rules. Utterly stupid rules, of course, but rules none the less.

The real issue is getting the primitive mindset behind those rediculous rules changed.

saiga on November 27, 2007 at 4:21 PM

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