Shock poll: Hillary trails all five first-tier GOP candidates head to head
posted at 4:23 pm on November 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Even Mitt and Fred, who trail the Dems head to head perennially.
Now I get to break your hearts and tell you which outfit is responsible for this tasty little outlier. If you want the real head to head numbers, check Gallup.
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Wow, people don’t really care for Hillary? I’m shocked!
spec_ops_mateo on November 26, 2007 at 4:24 PM
has anyone ever researched why Zogby is always so f’ed up?
RW Wacko on November 26, 2007 at 4:26 PM
I actually participated in that poll (via their website.) Since I couldn’t think of any GOP candidate (even Ron Paul, although they didn’t ask about him) over whom I’d prefer Hillary, that’s how I voted. I’m not sure how that’s going to map to actual voting results, though.
Hannibal Smith on November 26, 2007 at 4:26 PM
I remember Mickey Kaus used to try to figure it out, but don’t know if he ever got anywhere….
RW Wacko on November 26, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Bad news is all five killed each other in the New Hampshire Debate, Carlos the Janitor reluctantly and somewhat confusingly accepts the Nomination at the convention from the 4 banned delegates from Florida that showed up………..
EricPWJohnson on November 26, 2007 at 4:28 PM
We have to start thinking electoral college and looking specifically at Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, Oregon, etc.
RW Wacko on November 26, 2007 at 4:31 PM
Rasmussen also has it close
Rasmussen reports
William Amos on November 26, 2007 at 4:33 PM
in a nation, essentially divided 40/40/20, I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Well, not that shocked.
lorien1973 on November 26, 2007 at 4:34 PM
So we have a 50/50 chance? Horsepotatoes.
Limerick on November 26, 2007 at 4:38 PM
Sounds like Zogby is just trying to pump Obama.
MB4 on November 26, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Heh, who else could it possibly be?
Bad Candy on November 26, 2007 at 4:41 PM
Carlos probably has a better and more coherent position on illegal immigration than most of the frontrunners.
Kensington on November 26, 2007 at 4:42 PM
Does anyone know where to find the Congressional and Senate seats up for grabs next year? Is there any breakdown in those races (poll numbers)?
stenwin77 on November 26, 2007 at 4:45 PM
If I were Hillary’s people I’d be pretty worried. Think about it. She’s not lightyears ahead in polling against a guy with two whole years of national political experience and against a shyster lawyer with pretty hair and six whole years of national political experience. Not to mention the perrenial bridesmaids of the second-tier. Hillary is the best of a very bad lot and her victory is still not a sure thing!
When it comes to the mano-y-mano campaign, Hillary can’t hide behind others the way she does in the Senate and on the primary campaign trail. The more the woman talks the more votes she loses. She should be polling much stronger than she has been. Or is that “she is a has been?”
highhopes on November 26, 2007 at 4:48 PM
People don’t want a screeching, pant suited throwback running the country?
Whoever is on the payroll and came up with her and Bill playing it up…..it backfired. Nobody wants to be reminded of that relationship.
Hening on November 26, 2007 at 4:49 PM
Whaaat!?? But she’s so,,, .. … so… uhmmm, I’m at a loss for something nice to say…
4shoes on November 26, 2007 at 5:01 PM
And the other Hsu hasn’t even dropped!
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on November 26, 2007 at 5:02 PM
I wish for Hillary to make it in the primaries, regardless of the source of the polls.
Entelechy on November 26, 2007 at 5:07 PM
Watch Mr. Cheney being replaced and the entire picture change. 2008 will be most interesting.
Entelechy on November 26, 2007 at 5:09 PM
The RCP poll of polls has had Giulani and McCain within MoE of HRC even before this new Zogby poll.
AP is just itching to declare “Game over, maaaaaaannn” on 2008, but the data just doesn’t support it.
Karl on November 26, 2007 at 5:11 PM
Johnson wasn’t likeable….Nixon wasn’t likeable. Both were SOBs. So an unlikeable DOB is unelectable? You guys need to get a grip. I can’t stand the woman any more then you but I’m not going to click my heels together three times and wish her away. Voter turn out in the cities is her target and we don’t have a plan to stop her. She is going to ‘gemme’ her way right into the WH.
Limerick on November 26, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Hillary is the main thing that Republicans have going for them now.
But you kind of just said that, sort of.
MB4 on November 26, 2007 at 5:14 PM
Exactly. Plus, Rudy is an unlikeable SOB too. At least to most people outside of NYC. I think Hillary crushes Rudy. Hillary would even win a Southern state or two against Rudy.
RW Wacko on November 26, 2007 at 5:19 PM
Actually, likability is an excellent indicator of the winner of elections — including Nixon.
But Hillary’s problem is not simply that she generally tends to have high unfavorables. Rather, it is that she has high numbers of people who specifically say they would not vote for her for President, though the most recent poll I saw on that question had the number as low as 43%.
Karl on November 26, 2007 at 5:29 PM
I’ve heard many people say that Zogby is screwed… so [LINK:] this report confuses me some.
Also, I find it interesting that Gallup’s methodology says:
…while Zogby says:
And then, as William Amos on November 26, 2007 at 4:33 PM said, Rasmussen tilts in favor of Republicans, too.
Another thing to remember is the fact that ALL registered voters do not always vote, while “likely” voters (duh) most likely will vote.
I participate in Zogby polls/surveys, too (although I wasn’t in this one) and I have found their wording of the questions pretty clear and straightforward.
leepro on November 26, 2007 at 5:34 PM
Zocby has this weird methodology of saying “Cell phone users are underestimated in political calls”
He is on this “Teens arent included” kick. And he overestimates the teen vote in all his polls
William Amos on November 26, 2007 at 5:37 PM
Hillary is the best disaster to ever happen to the Democrats. She is being sheltered by the MSM, and there are a lot of people who haven’t really seen what she is like, and what she stands for.
When the Republican candidate actually gets to go against her head to head she will crumble. She is no “centrist” like Bill, she is devout Marxist, and vulgar in every aspect. She has pinned her victory to her belief that every woman in the country will vote for her because she is a woman.
She is worse in debates then Bush ever was, and more wishy washy than Kerry. She is an absolute poll chaser, and it is obvious when she debates, she has no ideal that won’t revolt most Americans, so she just hops onto whatever the current sentiment dictates.
Rode Werk on November 26, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Is hard to get data on the numbers. Is general info here
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=2008_elections
Senate races up in 2008
Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, Republican
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, Republican
Arkansas Sen. Mark Pryor, Democratic
Colorado Sen. Wayne Allard, Republican
Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Democratic
Georgia Sen. C. Saxby Chambliss, Republican
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, Republican
Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, Democratic
Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin, Democratic
Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts, Republican
Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell, Republican
Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu, Democratic
Maine Sen. Susan Collins, Republican
Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, Democratic
Michigan Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic
Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman, Republican
Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran, Republican
Montana Sen. Max Baucus, Democratic
Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, Republican
New Hampshire Sen. John E. Sununu, Republican
New Jersey Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, Democratic
New Mexico Sen. Pete V. Domenici, Republican
North Carolina Sen. Elizabeth Dole, Republican
Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe, Republican
Oregon Sen. Gordon Smith, Republican
Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, Democratic
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, Republican
South Dakota Sen. Tim Johnson, Democratic
Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander, Republican
Texas Sen. John Cornyn, Republican
Virginia Sen. John Warner, Republican
West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller
Wyoming Sen. Mike Enzi, Republican
William Amos on November 26, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Meh. She can’t hide anymore. In order to run she has to talk now. The more she talks, the more voters will recoil in horror.
ronsfi on November 26, 2007 at 5:49 PM
Um exactly how is he unlikeable? What ’cause he doesn’t have a southern drawl? You know that’s why the south lost the war…they talked to slow.
liberrocky on November 26, 2007 at 5:53 PM
Hillary Overcomes Bad Poll Numbers, Wins Election! See She IS Tough!
Imagine the headlines, the adoration, the empty promises…
SouthernGent on November 26, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Actually, I think Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson have a good chance to beat Hillary if they become the candidate.
Rudy is basically running on Hillary’s same platform, maybe even left of her. The only real seperation between Rudy and Hillary is Rudy believes there is a War on Terror. Hillary only kind of believes, depending on the polls, and who she is speaking to. Both have never seen an abortion they weren’t in favor of, a gun control law they didn’t like, nor an Amnesty law they oppose. Rudy’s record speaks far more clearly than Rudy himself.
Rode Werk on November 26, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Sorry… but right now the numbers are NOT 40/40/20…
check your voter registrations…
In Colorado it runs a bit more than 1/3 of the registered voters are either Unaffiliated or a party other than Rep or Dem.
Yep, fully 1/3 of the voters nationaly are NOT represented by the two major parties… somthing the parties try to play down, and the MSM does not want to admit.
Romeo13 on November 26, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Of course if the poll had Hillary leading all the top tier Republican candidates there would be no reason to check and double check, it would be taken as fact.
Capitalist Infidel on November 26, 2007 at 6:23 PM
Rasmussen says Obama beats all. Curious how the labels are beginning to swap… and don’t think that Obama won’t try to make that meme stick for him like Clinton tried to make it stick for her.
Vizzini on November 26, 2007 at 6:54 PM
What? Folks think that eight years of managing BJ’s bimbo eruptions doesn’t qualify her to be Prez?
Obama put it well when he said talking with his wife about his work didn’t qualify her to be a Senator. The very idea of it is preposterous.
petefrt on November 26, 2007 at 6:55 PM
I believe one of the reasons that Zogby seems to tilt Republican is because it actually reflects the reality that registered Republicans have a higher voter turnout then registered Democrats. This is NOT a flaw with Zogby.
Resolute on November 26, 2007 at 7:40 PM
It is frankly hard to see any of the Dem candidates as electable. Certainly not as electable as Kerry or Gore (and they weren’t exactly great candidates either).
Hillary is shrewd but has astronomical negatives. Obama has a more likeable persona but seems to have no substance whatsoever. Edwards combines the negative traits of the other two – as sleazy as Clinton and even more vapid than Obama.
Equally remarkable is that it is impossible to point to even a single accomplishment of *any* of them. Kerry had much the same problem in 2004 after 20-odd years in the Senate, so he trumpeted his war service 35 years earlier as a substitute for a record. But Clinton, Obama and Edwards don’t even have that to fall back on, and they are all essentially just one-term senators who have spent all their time running for, or preparing to run for, the presidency.
Frankly, I think Hillary is the only one of the three that’s even remotely qualified to be President, but as the best-known candidate it seems like she has little room to improve peoples’ impressions of her.
LagunaDave on November 26, 2007 at 9:12 PM
I have flaws, my friend, but I’m not a “kind of” or “sort of” gal :)
Entelechy on November 26, 2007 at 11:18 PM
I missed that one, but if he said it ’twas a good zinger.
Texas Nick 77 on November 27, 2007 at 7:01 AM
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