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	<title>Comments on: Report: 60 Afghan and Iraqi terrorists planned to attack Fort Huachuca? Update: Fort vulnerable?</title>
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		<title>By: DavePa</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavePa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some of the commenters are right that this is much ado about nothing, or just a disinformation thing by one drug cartel against another. However, I&#039;m unprepared to arbitrarily dismiss any alleged plot as &quot;too fantastic to believe&quot;. Before 9/11, wouldn&#039;t almost all of us have considered the 9/11 attacks &quot;too fantastic to believe&quot;?
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The bottom line is that unless and until we secure our southern border, our whole nation is exposed to greatly heightened and unnecessary risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some of the commenters are right that this is much ado about nothing, or just a disinformation thing by one drug cartel against another. However, I&#8217;m unprepared to arbitrarily dismiss any alleged plot as &#8220;too fantastic to believe&#8221;. Before 9/11, wouldn&#8217;t almost all of us have considered the 9/11 attacks &#8220;too fantastic to believe&#8221;?<br />
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The bottom line is that unless and until we secure our southern border, our whole nation is exposed to greatly heightened and unnecessary risk.</p>
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		<title>By: BadBrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadBrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can understand how the terrorists might get in. I was
at Fort Huachuca in ‘70 and was robbed by 4 thugs in an
enlisted mans restroom for my last 5 bucks. &lt;strong&gt;I don’t know if they were Muslim however.&lt;/strong&gt;
gary on November 26, 2007 at 5:49 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did they have short hair and long beards?  How about a CAIR T-shirt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can understand how the terrorists might get in. I was<br />
at Fort Huachuca in ‘70 and was robbed by 4 thugs in an<br />
enlisted mans restroom for my last 5 bucks. <strong>I don’t know if they were Muslim however.</strong><br />
gary on November 26, 2007 at 5:49 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Did they have short hair and long beards?  How about a CAIR T-shirt?</p>
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		<title>By: Public Secrets: from the files of the Irishspy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public Secrets: from the files of the Irishspy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Monday links...&lt;/strong&gt;

Too much to do to provide a full post today, but I wanted to link to some stories of interest, leading off with the (nonexistent) plot to attack Fort Huachuca, Arizona. The Washington Times first broke the story: Fort Huachuca,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Monday links&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Too much to do to provide a full post today, but I wanted to link to some stories of interest, leading off with the (nonexistent) plot to attack Fort Huachuca, Arizona. The Washington Times first broke the story: Fort Huachuca,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SoulGlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoulGlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrorist plot after terrorist plot against our forts has failed.  Why do terrorists continue plotting against a hard target like a military base instead of attacking an easier target such as a mall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrorist plot after terrorist plot against our forts has failed.  Why do terrorists continue plotting against a hard target like a military base instead of attacking an easier target such as a mall?</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand how the terrorists might get in.  I was
at Fort Huachuca in &#039;70 and was robbed by 4 thugs in an
enlisted mans restroom for my last 5 bucks.  I don&#039;t know if they were Muslim however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand how the terrorists might get in.  I was<br />
at Fort Huachuca in &#8217;70 and was robbed by 4 thugs in an<br />
enlisted mans restroom for my last 5 bucks.  I don&#8217;t know if they were Muslim however.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Blather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Check out “The Teeth Of The Tiger” by Tom Clancy…

After all, a plotline of his inspired/mirrored an earlier terrorist attack.

Frozen Tex on November 26, 2007 at 1:11 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good book. And when I read it, I wondered why terrorists never did exactly what Clancy suggested. (Of course, in an earlier novel he also suggested flying planes into buildings ...)

But I think it goes back to my last post: such attacks don&#039;t appeal to the fanatical need for symbolism. It&#039;s not enough to create mass death or chaos. It has to be symbolic. Spectacularly symbolic. 

It has to mean something to them. Attacking the Galleria or Joe&#039;s Crab Shack just doesn&#039;t cut it for them.

Which is a very good thing. Can you remember the weeks of the DC sniper hunt? Or the anthrax attacks? They proved just how easy it is to have massive impact, with limited risk, and only a handful of participants. A single trained sniper, operating simultaneously in a dozen major cities, could cripple our economy.

Or just one whack job with lots of anthrax and a couple rolls of stamps.

But for whatever loony reason, thinking like that just doesn&#039;t appeal to them. Wasted attacks on the Pentagon or targeting centers of economic power ... or suicide attacks on U.S. military bases ... is more their speed. They haven&#039;t figured out what they could do, if they wanted to.

Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Check out “The Teeth Of The Tiger” by Tom Clancy…</p>
<p>After all, a plotline of his inspired/mirrored an earlier terrorist attack.</p>
<p>Frozen Tex on November 26, 2007 at 1:11 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Good book. And when I read it, I wondered why terrorists never did exactly what Clancy suggested. (Of course, in an earlier novel he also suggested flying planes into buildings &#8230;)</p>
<p>But I think it goes back to my last post: such attacks don&#8217;t appeal to the fanatical need for symbolism. It&#8217;s not enough to create mass death or chaos. It has to be symbolic. Spectacularly symbolic. </p>
<p>It has to mean something to them. Attacking the Galleria or Joe&#8217;s Crab Shack just doesn&#8217;t cut it for them.</p>
<p>Which is a very good thing. Can you remember the weeks of the DC sniper hunt? Or the anthrax attacks? They proved just how easy it is to have massive impact, with limited risk, and only a handful of participants. A single trained sniper, operating simultaneously in a dozen major cities, could cripple our economy.</p>
<p>Or just one whack job with lots of anthrax and a couple rolls of stamps.</p>
<p>But for whatever loony reason, thinking like that just doesn&#8217;t appeal to them. Wasted attacks on the Pentagon or targeting centers of economic power &#8230; or suicide attacks on U.S. military bases &#8230; is more their speed. They haven&#8217;t figured out what they could do, if they wanted to.</p>
<p>Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Blather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Riddle me this: Why would 60 terrorists, having successfully infiltrated and armed themselves to the teeth with high explosives, waste their efforts in an assault on a fort?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pure symbolism.

Attacking an American military base on American soil would be an enormous propaganda victory. Or at least they would think so. And it probably would be perceived that way amongst Al-Queda&#039;s target recruiting population.

This hypothetical attack strikes me as representing exactly the way these people think.

You&#039;re applying logic and reason to the illogical and irrational. To them, symbolism always matters more than results.

If they cared about results, a couple dozen Beslan-style school shootings all on the same day would be effective and relatively easy to accomplish. 

But they&#039;ll never do it. It&#039;s all about the symbols. Just like the Pentagon and WTC.

God help us if they ever start thinking as clearly as you, and start prioritizing actual results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Riddle me this: Why would 60 terrorists, having successfully infiltrated and armed themselves to the teeth with high explosives, waste their efforts in an assault on a fort?</p></blockquote>
<p>Pure symbolism.</p>
<p>Attacking an American military base on American soil would be an enormous propaganda victory. Or at least they would think so. And it probably would be perceived that way amongst Al-Queda&#8217;s target recruiting population.</p>
<p>This hypothetical attack strikes me as representing exactly the way these people think.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re applying logic and reason to the illogical and irrational. To them, symbolism always matters more than results.</p>
<p>If they cared about results, a couple dozen Beslan-style school shootings all on the same day would be effective and relatively easy to accomplish. </p>
<p>But they&#8217;ll never do it. It&#8217;s all about the symbols. Just like the Pentagon and WTC.</p>
<p>God help us if they ever start thinking as clearly as you, and start prioritizing actual results.</p>
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		<title>By: dogsoldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogsoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm Could 60 people sneak across the border? Yeah I can buy that. Could those 60 people also carry high explosives and weapons? Yeah, I can easily belive that too.

Would those 60 people want to attack an American Military/Intelligence training facility? Yeah, Seeing as how a few cought bad guys planned an attack in Jersey. 

Recently, a local TV station up here in New England documented an investigator carrying nuclear material back and forth across the border many many times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm Could 60 people sneak across the border? Yeah I can buy that. Could those 60 people also carry high explosives and weapons? Yeah, I can easily belive that too.</p>
<p>Would those 60 people want to attack an American Military/Intelligence training facility? Yeah, Seeing as how a few cought bad guys planned an attack in Jersey. </p>
<p>Recently, a local TV station up here in New England documented an investigator carrying nuclear material back and forth across the border many many times.</p>
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		<title>By: there it is</title>
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		<dc:creator>there it is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The report was issued in May. What have our jihadi friends been up to since then?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably taking Engineering classes at the University of South Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The report was issued in May. What have our jihadi friends been up to since then?</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably taking Engineering classes at the University of South Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: reaganaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>reaganaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, does cartel drug money even come close to Saudi oil money?

Still, I&#039;m sure there is a shred of thruth in there somewhere. Maybe 6 guys with handguns were smuggled across by a guy who knows a guy, who has a brother in a drug cartel. Maybe there is drug-runner startup that is looking for new capital/weapons, although 1.2 million seems a bit low.

It&#039;s probably unlikely, unless there have been some conversions to Islam. Maybe the Islamists are teaching the drug scum some new terror tactics, new ways to carry out beheadings. 

Either that, or they think that we are just so weak (politically) on the border issue that even something like this won&#039;t put a dent in their trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, does cartel drug money even come close to Saudi oil money?</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m sure there is a shred of thruth in there somewhere. Maybe 6 guys with handguns were smuggled across by a guy who knows a guy, who has a brother in a drug cartel. Maybe there is drug-runner startup that is looking for new capital/weapons, although 1.2 million seems a bit low.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably unlikely, unless there have been some conversions to Islam. Maybe the Islamists are teaching the drug scum some new terror tactics, new ways to carry out beheadings. </p>
<p>Either that, or they think that we are just so weak (politically) on the border issue that even something like this won&#8217;t put a dent in their trade.</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.

LakeRuins on November 26, 2007 at 1:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;SHHHH!

Military plates/bumper stickers keep pinheads who don&#039;t know this from acting stupid with me in traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.</p>
<p>LakeRuins on November 26, 2007 at 1:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>SHHHH!</p>
<p>Military plates/bumper stickers keep pinheads who don&#8217;t know this from acting stupid with me in traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: see-dubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>see-dubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashback--remember when Osama conspired with Colombian cartels to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/106645.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ship poisoned cocaine &lt;/a&gt;to the US?

Yeah, I don&#039;t think that happened, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashback&#8211;remember when Osama conspired with Colombian cartels to <a href="http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/106645.php" rel="nofollow">ship poisoned cocaine </a>to the US?</p>
<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t think that happened, either.</p>
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		<title>By: matthewbit07</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthewbit07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stationed in Huachuca back in 01. All anyone would have to do is walk on the base. We had people come in to work all the time and tell stories about illegals running right through their backyards. There were also a couple of times that I can remember when soldiers out on training exercises would run across a bands of illegals camping out. Huachuca would probably be one of the softest targets in the whole military to hit. 

HOWEVER, I agree with Allahpundit that this sounds a little far-fetched. It sounds too much like the crazy stories the Iraqis tell. 

Carefull, at midnight tonight 107.5 Iraqi ninjas in black clothes will attack the compound with laser guns and 25 T-90 tanks! Their goal is the capture of that product you call, &quot;deodorant&quot;, from your PX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stationed in Huachuca back in 01. All anyone would have to do is walk on the base. We had people come in to work all the time and tell stories about illegals running right through their backyards. There were also a couple of times that I can remember when soldiers out on training exercises would run across a bands of illegals camping out. Huachuca would probably be one of the softest targets in the whole military to hit. </p>
<p>HOWEVER, I agree with Allahpundit that this sounds a little far-fetched. It sounds too much like the crazy stories the Iraqis tell. </p>
<p>Carefull, at midnight tonight 107.5 Iraqi ninjas in black clothes will attack the compound with laser guns and 25 T-90 tanks! Their goal is the capture of that product you call, &#8220;deodorant&#8221;, from your PX.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony737</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have three words for ya: SHOOT. TO. KILL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have three words for ya: SHOOT. TO. KILL.</p>
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		<title>By: conservnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I agree with MB4, this just don&#039;t add up.  I guess I could see the rival cartel deal.  And I have no doubt that jihadis are here, it&#039;s just too easy to get here.  But this plan seems a bit weak, and stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I agree with MB4, this just don&#8217;t add up.  I guess I could see the rival cartel deal.  And I have no doubt that jihadis are here, it&#8217;s just too easy to get here.  But this plan seems a bit weak, and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: see-dubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>see-dubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Iraqis arriving in the Western Hemisphere en route to America:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FOREIGN/109110031&amp;SearchID=7329325610572&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That happens&lt;/a&gt;, yep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Iraqis arriving in the Western Hemisphere en route to America:  <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FOREIGN/109110031&#038;SearchID=7329325610572" rel="nofollow">That happens</a>, yep.</p>
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		<title>By: see-dubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>see-dubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>End of the article: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the DEA, the sub-source identified Mexico&#039;s Sinaloa cartel as the drug lords who would assist the terrorists in their plot. 

This led the DEA to caution the FBI that &lt;strong&gt;its information may be a Gulf Cartel plant to bring the U.S. military in against its main rival.&lt;/strong&gt; The Sinaloa and Gulf cartels have fought bloody battles along the border for control of shipping routes into the U.S. &lt;/blockquote&gt;  Unless and until some of these guys are actually arrested, I think that&#039;s the most likely explanation.

now, if this were real, I can see smuggling the heavy weaponry in instead of buying it, though.  I don&#039;t think there are a lot of American arms dealers ready to deliver off-the-books RPG&#039;s to dodgy Afghanis and Iraqis.  There&#039;s a fair amount of weapons traffic going south,  but probably &lt;a href=&quot;http://junkyardblog.net/archives/2007/11/wapos-article-o-1.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; not as much as the media likes to tell you&lt;/a&gt;.  I suspect a lot of it comes from other former communist (or currently communist) sources.</description>
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<blockquote><p>According to the DEA, the sub-source identified Mexico&#8217;s Sinaloa cartel as the drug lords who would assist the terrorists in their plot. </p>
<p>This led the DEA to caution the FBI that <strong>its information may be a Gulf Cartel plant to bring the U.S. military in against its main rival.</strong> The Sinaloa and Gulf cartels have fought bloody battles along the border for control of shipping routes into the U.S. </p></blockquote>
<p>  Unless and until some of these guys are actually arrested, I think that&#8217;s the most likely explanation.</p>
<p>now, if this were real, I can see smuggling the heavy weaponry in instead of buying it, though.  I don&#8217;t think there are a lot of American arms dealers ready to deliver off-the-books RPG&#8217;s to dodgy Afghanis and Iraqis.  There&#8217;s a fair amount of weapons traffic going south,  but probably <a href="http://junkyardblog.net/archives/2007/11/wapos-article-o-1.php" rel="nofollow"> not as much as the media likes to tell you</a>.  I suspect a lot of it comes from other former communist (or currently communist) sources.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.

LakeRuins on November 26, 2007 at 1:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even in RVN most troops, when on base, most of the time, were not armed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.</p>
<p>LakeRuins on November 26, 2007 at 1:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Even in RVN most troops, when on base, most of the time, were not armed.</p>
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		<title>By: LakeRuins</title>
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		<dc:creator>LakeRuins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the military challenged. Troops stationed stateside do not have easy access to weapons and ammunition, except for the MP&#039;s. Weapons are stored in an arms room, normally in the units main area, and the ammo is stored in bunkers out in the south forty. There may be a quick reaction force handy but not in sufficent numbers to repel an attack from 60 armed attackers.
Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the military challenged. Troops stationed stateside do not have easy access to weapons and ammunition, except for the MP&#8217;s. Weapons are stored in an arms room, normally in the units main area, and the ammo is stored in bunkers out in the south forty. There may be a quick reaction force handy but not in sufficent numbers to repel an attack from 60 armed attackers.<br />
Forget Hollywood. Troops do not go around with loaded weapons 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: doriangrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>doriangrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;… and the anti-tank missiles could be giant pointy rocks.

Bring it on. Our troops are waiting.

fogw on November 26, 2007 at 1:24 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but so are our imbecilic liberals, the difference is the libs are waiting with open arms...the troops are waiting with loaded arms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>… and the anti-tank missiles could be giant pointy rocks.</p>
<p>Bring it on. Our troops are waiting.</p>
<p>fogw on November 26, 2007 at 1:24 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but so are our imbecilic liberals, the difference is the libs are waiting with open arms&#8230;the troops are waiting with loaded arms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LakeRuins</title>
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		<dc:creator>LakeRuins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plan itself is plausible, what is not plausible is the details provided in this account. 60 terrorists from Iraq and Afghanistan?? C&#039;mon like AP pointed even the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have a more diverse makeup. This is too close to telling the folks what they want to hear. I don&#039;t mean to downplay the information but the details are just too convienent. 
If they said groups of 5 to 10 smuggle across at various times that now total 60 I could give it more credence. Besides why go through all of the trouble of going through Mexico and paying smugglers when all I need to do is go to Saudi Arabia, get a student visa, hop on an airplane and come in through any airport I want. Having the weapons smuggled in through Mexico makes more sense and allows the terrorists a layer of deniability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plan itself is plausible, what is not plausible is the details provided in this account. 60 terrorists from Iraq and Afghanistan?? C&#8217;mon like AP pointed even the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have a more diverse makeup. This is too close to telling the folks what they want to hear. I don&#8217;t mean to downplay the information but the details are just too convienent.<br />
If they said groups of 5 to 10 smuggle across at various times that now total 60 I could give it more credence. Besides why go through all of the trouble of going through Mexico and paying smugglers when all I need to do is go to Saudi Arabia, get a student visa, hop on an airplane and come in through any airport I want. Having the weapons smuggled in through Mexico makes more sense and allows the terrorists a layer of deniability.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bring it on. Our troops are waiting.

fogw on November 26, 2007 at 1:24 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Two-four fire mission.
Battery adjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bring it on. Our troops are waiting.</p>
<p>fogw on November 26, 2007 at 1:24 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Two-four fire mission.<br />
Battery adjust.</p>
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		<title>By: fogw</title>
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		<dc:creator>fogw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the source who spoke with DEA intelligence agents, the weapons included two Milan anti-tank missiles, Soviet-made surface-to-air missiles, grenade launchers, long guns and handguns.

“FBI Comment: &lt;strong&gt;The surface-to-air missiles may in fact be RPGs&lt;/strong&gt;,” the advisory stated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... and the anti-tank missiles could be giant pointy rocks.

Bring it on.  Our troops are waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>According to the source who spoke with DEA intelligence agents, the weapons included two Milan anti-tank missiles, Soviet-made surface-to-air missiles, grenade launchers, long guns and handguns.</p>
<p>“FBI Comment: <strong>The surface-to-air missiles may in fact be RPGs</strong>,” the advisory stated.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; and the anti-tank missiles could be giant pointy rocks.</p>
<p>Bring it on.  Our troops are waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anything they want here.</description>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smuggled in arms is another red flag...why would they? The cartel people here could get them anything they want.

The Debka analogy seems about right to me. Rumor=newsflash...DEA/FBI is going to check up on it even if they think it was bogus in a CYA move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smuggled in arms is another red flag&#8230;why would they? The cartel people here could get them anything they want.</p>
<p>The Debka analogy seems about right to me. Rumor=newsflash&#8230;DEA/FBI is going to check up on it even if they think it was bogus in a CYA move.</p>
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