These speakers will literally shake the car and the cars nearby with the sound and feel of the bass thumping….

Allah, did you get that one? I think the fire-in-his-belly is just starting.

Sen. Lindsey Graham was great in defending the successful surge, best in history on this type of success we’ve had in Iraq. Went head to head with Sen. Levin who was backed into a corner on saying that they’ve always supported the troop.

Uh huh…

Yeah.

We also own more guns than we have teeth.

AZ_Redneck on November 24, 2007 at 5:43 PM

Heh, me too. And my brother’s collection puts mine to shame.

(I still have all my 32 teeth, BTW.)

And name calling and lying about a fellow conservatives record is relevant? Fred’s record is so much better than Mitt’s. Fred was never pro-choice. Mitt has been. Fred was born into a middle class family. Mitt was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Fred served as a prosecutor and a Senator. Mitt was governor for one term and spent the last 18 months of that term running for President.

I know of no other candidate’s supporters that are so duplicitous as Mitt’s have been on this board. Csdeven, bkennedy, and Tommylotto are the worst of them. Here is the worst insult I can give- you argue like liberals. Twisting facts, the incessant name calling, it really has gotten old and if Allah is going to allow then I am willing to wallow in the mud because you guys deserve it.

Stay tuned for some world class Mitt bashing…

Bill C on November 24, 2007 at 6:10 PM

Perhaps I wouldn’t have called you Fraud!heads pathetic if it wasn’t your standard operating to procedure to act, I think I’ll borrow this one from you, like liberals and play the “you’re attacking me! I’m a victim!” care every time someone criticizes Saint Fred. Maybe if your last response had more substance than snark I would have refrained, but both you and Gatordoug seem to think your opinion of someone else’s credibility is enough to discredit them… just like liberals.

The fact is that only McCain can claim absolute purity on pro-life forever. Possibly Ron Paul too, but that guy is too insane for me to care.

The fact is that Mitt being born rich is completely irrelevant to anything. For all that supposed spoiling that rich kids get, Mitt has a better work ethic than country boy Fred does. Mitt spent time in a mission in France, and he wasn’t sipping wine in the Riviera like some of you Fraud!heads seem to believe.

Give Mitt and Fred any task, any task at all, and Mitt will get it done faster and more effectively. Fred will just sit there lazily and lumber around too it, and if it gets too hard he’ll just give up. Fred Thompson has never had to work an honest day in his adult life. He went from skeezy lobbyist to irrelevant (except for non-conservative measures, he’s famous for those) senator to pretend DA. All of Fred’s past jobs inherently rely on gamesmanship and deceit, at least the way he did them, anyway.

Please Fred, tell us all the great things you did as DA of New York. We know you were just acting and weren’t really DA, and had none of the problem’s a DA actually faces, but you looked real good doing it on Law and Order.

Governorship is also a lot closer to the Presidency as far as actual function. Being a Senator means you live in committee and talk a good game, then never make good on your word. Conservatives hate that quality, but it’s an admirable quality for Democrats, which is why all the top tier Dems are Senators and Richardson is getting smoked.

Fred’s record:

Pro-life: Never challenged on it in his state, never fought for anything because he left the heavy lifting to Frist, but apparently he thinks NARAL has a valid argument in “we can’t imprison women.”
Anti-Crime: Yeah right, the Fraud!ster himself has violated the spirit of the law and bent the letter of the law his entire life.
Free Speech: Basically authored McCain Feingold. Thanks for all the 527s Fred.

That is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. Fred lobbied for an abortion group. Stated in prior election questionnaires that he favors legal abortion in the first trimester. He refuses to support a constitutional amendment banning abortions, and just a few weeks ago he stated that he does not want to make criminals out of women, parents and doctors that choose to have or perform an abortion.

Does that describe to you a candidate who was never pro-choice. It describes a candidate that IS pro-choice today!!!

tommylotto on November 24, 2007 at 7:37 PM

The prior election questionnaire you reference was not filled out by Fred. He denies it. Do you think the National Right to Life Committee would give him a 100% rating and their endorsement for President if he had been pro-choice, like your man Mitt.

His refusal to support the Human Life Amendment is based on practical political considerations and his commitment to Federalism. Unlike panderbear Mitt who is willing to change his beliefs at the first sign of a election, Fred has stated principles that go back more than a few years.

can only speak for myself, but I think I can safely say that Texans never think of or much less envy New York.

Rightwingsparkle on November 23, 2007 at 7:44 PM

As a fellow Houstonian, I couldn’t say it better myself!

AZ_Redneck on November 24, 2007 at 5:43 PM

evenin, y’all from AJ.

He refuses to support a constitutional amendment banning abortions, and just a few weeks ago he stated that he does not want to make criminals out of women, parents and doctors that choose to have or perform an abortion.

Campaigning with a position to make women criminals for having an abortion wouldn’t work too well in a general election.

Fred was never pro-choice.
Bill C on November 24, 2007 at 6:10 PM

That is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. Fred lobbied for an abortion group. Stated in prior election questionnaires that he favors legal abortion in the first trimester. He refuses to support a constitutional amendment banning abortions, and just a few weeks ago he stated that he does not want to make criminals out of women, parents and doctors that choose to have or perform an abortion.

Does that describe to you a candidate who was never pro-choice. It describes a candidate that IS pro-choice today!!!

dedalus on November 24, 2007 at 4:54 PM

Thanks for the suggestion.
I’ll look into the play. I enjoyed Rent (well, the CD and movie at least, never seen the show) so if it’s more interesting sounds like a winner.

Fred; a middle class guy makes good and gets famous.
Mitt: a rich kid gets into politics.
Rudy: a liberal gets, well, less liberal.

I like Fred’s story best. He will always be the champion of the middle-class in America, 100% pro life, pro gun, anti amnesty, and a former prosecutor.

Go Fred!

Were you saying something?

Funny, because I believe a while a go I said “snark isn’t a counterargument.”

See, you Fraud!heads are pathetic. You answer allegations with snarky one-liners as if it has any relevance whatsoever to anything.

Perhaps you can join Gatordoug is his apparent vow of silence.

I do feel sorry for you though. It must suck to defend the indefensible record of a candidate who has no interest in telling the truth about it.

BKennedy on November 24, 2007 at 8:14 AM

And name calling and lying about a fellow conservatives record is relevant? Fred’s record is so much better than Mitt’s. Fred was never pro-choice. Mitt has been. Fred was born into a middle class family. Mitt was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Fred served as a prosecutor and a Senator. Mitt was governor for one term and spent the last 18 months of that term running for President.

I know of no other candidate’s supporters that are so duplicitous as Mitt’s have been on this board. Csdeven, bkennedy, and Tommylotto are the worst of them. Here is the worst insult I can give- you argue like liberals. Twisting facts, the incessant name calling, it really has gotten old and if Allah is going to allow then I am willing to wallow in the mud because you guys deserve it.

Stay tuned for some world class Mitt bashing…

How the hell can you say good morning to strangers on the street when you’re passing a thousand at a time? But if you fall in the street, you will be helped.

Who says y’all in Arizona?

JiangxiDad on November 24, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Gee whiz … Can’t say hi to all of them, but there is ample opportunity standing at street corners, on the subway, … Just notin what I observed.

Re: y’all in AZ; Mostly rural, but not unheard of by any stretch in the city.

We also own more guns than we have teeth.

disgust, resentment, and envy

AP, You got the first one right.
The other two though… Not at all.

It would be interesting to know where their descendants are living right now in 2007.

One would have to trace it through his daughters. Of his 4 sons, 2 died before adulthood, 1 became a Catholic priest, and 1 never married.

The death of his 9 year old son Willie from yellow fever in 1863, just after Vicksburg, devastated Sherman, and some speculate that it helped to fuel his commitment to “total war”.

if this embarrassment is typical of the current state of conservatism,

Professor Blather on November 24, 2007 at 4:29 PM

With all due respect… Do you really consider Rudy a Conservative? He’s attempting to take on that mantle… but his past actions do not match his present rhetoric.

Hmmm… to potentialy coin a phrase… He’s a Rudyist… he’s out for Rudi first, and does not espouse either Libertarian, or Conservative, outlooks.

terryannonline on November 24, 2007 at 4:35 PM

Your blog is great BTW. Judging from what you’ve written you might enjoy a Broadway show called “Spring Awakening”. It is a rock musical based on an 1890 German play. They don’t change the play’s original setting, which makes the anachronistic music more effective. Really nice production, much more interesting than Rent.

If this thread full of the most sophomoric in-fighting and painfully childish generalizations about whole cities and regions is now par for the course … if this embarrassment is typical of the current state of conservatism, we are going to get slaughtered in 2008. And deservedly so.

Jesus wept. What an ugly, stupid, useless thread. Remember “united we stand?”

Come now. It’s not that bad….race relations threads are far worse.

And we may get “slaughtered” in 2008. Let’s hope that a few thousand more of us don’t get slaughtered–regardless of party or of color.