Sunday school now?……

Much the way a person who left Christianity for Islam would be treated by the Christian community he left. To use an example, I rail about the stupidity of AGW on my blog, and at the same time accept Evolution as the best explanation for why we are what we are. I had one fellow leave a comment regarding how I could be so irrational about one (AGW) and so correct about the other. I used the same principles of critical thinking to reach both conclusions, but I had stepped away from the dogma of freethought.

The freethought movement is essentially a church. You can think whatever you want, as long as it conforms.

In the end it’s not whether or not you worship – it’s what you worship.

Jesus was right! :-D

I’ve always been uncomfortable with the Hitchens and Newdows of the atheist set, I’ve not-so-secretly wished that both would shut the hell up about their faux brand of agnosticism, this is just further confirmation that their using their non-belief as just another god-construct with “anti-” stuck on the front of it for show.

You can’t preach and be an atheist. You can’t prostelylze and be an atheist. PERIOD!

–Jason (an atheist)

The symbol shows how atheists fit into our world and are an integral part of
it. The “A” is capitalized because we are important. It is attached to the circle
(a globe) in the same way we are attached to our world.

from R.J.: “. . . although it is meant to be a capitalized A, to my eye it has two
V’s, one inverted, inside an O, which can also stand for Veritas Omnia Vincit,
‘truth conquers all.’ So it does double duty for atheism.”

“Why no, we’re not a religious cult. We just have a monopoly on the truth and believe that our truth conquers all.”

“HAIL DAWKINS!”

Seriously atheist dudes, just break out the robes already.

Someone hasn’t done much homework on Creation Science

Because there isnt always lot of science in creation science, especially the 6000 year old young earthers, and the ones who claimed dinosaurs and people walked side by side (See huxter Carl Baugh for that one).

morals and laws existed before the bible though too
firepilot on November 23, 2007 at 2:18 PM

In my conversation with my friend who was an atheist who leaned right on most social issues and the war effort, I asked him about the 10 Commandments. His explanation was that they were used to try to bring some rule of law back then. And then to give them heavier weight, Moses told the people that they were handed down by God. But he believed they were just a way for man to enact a rule of law over a people who were getting out of hand.

How they spend their time is their business, but it looks like the same type of time waster the hardcore atheists make fun of Christians for.

Krydor on November 23, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Yeah, I wasn’t asking as a means to then say “AHA! You are moonbats and this is what all atheists want to do!” after finding out. It was merely a general curiousity as to what this specific atheist group was going to preach about morals and values and what their moral and value system was.

Seems to me the main thing the atheist authors “preach” is there is no God and worship of him is for weak minds and misguided, sometimes evil people. I would guess it would be more of the same, based on the authors who are leading this movement, even if only by their writings.

abinitioadinfinitum on November 23, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Well, yes, I assumed that just on the basis they were atheists. However, as I quoted in my comment, they talk about morals and values as well.

Others say the weekly instruction supports their position that it’s O.K. to not believe in God and gives them a place to reinforce the morals and values they want their children to have…

That was what I was curious about. In addition to preaching that there is no God, they were also going to lay a foundation of morals and values. I wanted to know (1) what are these morals and values and (2) what are they basing them on.

Not agnostics, gnostics.

JiangxiDad on November 23, 2007 at 2:13 PM

That’s true, it was.

They want their children to be ‘free-thinkers’ by encouraging personal expression, intellectual curiosity and collaboration, but suppress any knowledge of the worlds religions, a major component of all societies of the world, lest it infect them with an incurable disease.

Finally, we come to Christopher Hitchens – who is acting like Don Quijote de la Mundo – tilting at the windmills of the 80-90% of world’s population who believe in a supreme being when, in reality, he’s more like Sancho Panza, a mere observer unable to, try as he might through his writings, interviews, and speeches, effect what is going on around him.

This is egotism run amok and what atheism is all about.

Killgore Trout on November 23, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Someone hasn’t done much homework on Creation Science. Like that suprises me.

Most that I’ve experienced are raging leftists. Admittedly that’s been online and college, I’m in my early 20s, whaddya want? Is that not getting out much? Maybe, but thus far its left a bad impression, maybe in ten years I’ll have a different view.

I’ve run into a some here, but most I’ve seen and heard are leftist cranks.

Bad Candy on November 23, 2007 at 12:35 PM

Even at my age you won’t find many conservative atheists, because we’re in the closet – if most of my friends new my true dis-belief I’d pay a heavy price. Not necessarily with the true friends, but in the community group in general. I don’t actively hide it, but I don’t volunteer much either.

I wish Western Europe would be more Christian, it might keep them from being such pussies against radical Islam

In any case, I do sympathize with atheist Christian parents who can’t avoid their children being exposed to religionpolitical correctness. If I have kids some day, I can imagine it’s going to be frustrating to constantly have to undo the cultural programming. AS if children aren’t already frustrating enough.