Video: Bro tased
posted at 9:31 pm on November 21, 2007 by Allahpundit
Starts slow but the initial demand for license and registration contains just enough ‘tude to make it worth watching in full. If you can’t be bothered, skip ahead to 2:00 or (-8:00 if you’re counting down) and see what happens when electricity is introduced into the mix of an ornery cop, a driver who doesn’t take him seriously, and his pregnant wife. The investigation’s already begun:
The Utah Highway Patrol has a nine-page policy on Taser use, including in instances where “a subject is threatening himself, an officer or another person with physical force, and when other means of controlling the subject are unreasonable or could cause injury to the officer, the subject or others,” Nigbur said.
Any threat of injury to the officer here?
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If I was the patrolman I would have tazed him also. I know a patrolman who got shot by a beligerent asshat in a similar situation.
Lawrence on November 21, 2007 at 9:40 PM
God, I hate people.
Good job, Officer.
ej_pez on November 21, 2007 at 9:41 PM
This guy shouldn’t be a cop.
Laddy on November 21, 2007 at 9:46 PM
Good Lord does it take a doctorate to see the threat??
Obviously she could have thrown the baby at the officer.
GoodBoy on November 21, 2007 at 9:48 PM
What a jerk off. Is not signing the ticket an arrestable offense?
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 9:50 PM
Ehh, obey the officers’ LAWFUL orders immediately, must be the latter part of my generation. ” Maybe I can kind-of, relatively follow his orders “ Money says his parents convinced him HE was the center of the universe when he was REAL young.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 9:51 PM
And I mean the cop.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 9:52 PM
This officer is wrong. In a lot of states, the individual receiving the ticket DOESN’T have to sign it. (Tarrant county, TX is an example.) The guy did NOTHING threatening. I’m not saying he isn’t an a$$hat to the cop, but there is NO way he should have gotten taz’d, bro. I support the police, but there ARE a few bad apples out there.
mimi1220 on November 21, 2007 at 9:52 PM
I hope this lame excuse for a cop loses his job and get the crap sued out of him. There was no reason for that. That’s excessive force.
Kini on November 21, 2007 at 9:53 PM
I wonder under what name the jerk posts on Democratic Underground as?
Texan on November 21, 2007 at 9:55 PM
He probably shoots dogs also
I mean the cop
Kini on November 21, 2007 at 9:55 PM
Unless it is clearly out of bounds I am going to side with the cops 100% of the time. The officer was probably on the more aggressive side of the force continuum however, non-compliance to verbal commands deserves the “one-up” policy, it was either physically put your hands on the guy or tase him. The retard that blew off the cop is just going to have to settle with filing a complaint and getting it fixed administratively.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 9:56 PM
Unbelievable. The guy was just making his case on why he didn’t think he was speeding. Tasers sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) result in death. Maybe the officer is going to be saying, “don’t suspend me bro.” Yeah, officers get shot at traffic stops, but this guy was in the open with no weapon.
Ordinary1 on November 21, 2007 at 9:56 PM
That cop is a total asshat.
bondo on November 21, 2007 at 9:57 PM
The Tazer was intended to be a substitute for deadly force. Apparently, no one explained this to law enforcement. They are using it irresponsibly.
RedWinged Blackbird on November 21, 2007 at 9:57 PM
wow.
jummy on November 21, 2007 at 9:58 PM
Kini, do you have any family or friends that are in Law Enforcement?
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 9:58 PM
Fire that cop.
BadgerHawk on November 21, 2007 at 9:59 PM
If that’s the case in Utah this cop has to lose his job fast. Two guys died in my town this week after being tasered. Both situations seemed to support the use of the taser but this one didn’t. He could have killed the guy over not signing a ticket. By the way, I unloaded on a cop a couple of years ago who gave me a ticket for something I didn’t do. But I did everything he told me. I let him have a piece of my mind and I was calling him a revenuer and asking him if he was proud of himself when he was walking back to his car. If you obey the officers commands there is no law against speaking your mind.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 9:59 PM
Geez,what an abuse of power. The victim here was the citizen. He posed no threat to the officer.
Though I do have respect for the men and women in blue, this asshat in the blue was at fault. There was no reason for him to use this type of force. It is typical of the ‘ppl who need power to live life’. They usually become officers of the law. Do some research and you will find the same.
The thing that bothers me is that he knew he was on video, so therefore he thought he was ‘all good’ in what he did.
The taser is a good tool when needed. But when put in the wrong hands, it can become a power tool, and I am not talking about Dewalt.
lsutiger on November 21, 2007 at 10:00 PM
Good Show. I love Tasers.
I’ll bet he learns to respect the Highway Patrol a little bit more.
Lesson learned.
Pay fine, do not pass go Bro!
AMRAAM on November 21, 2007 at 10:01 PM
I was waiting for the officer to say to him or her “Por que no te callas?”
baldilocks on November 21, 2007 at 10:01 PM
RedWinged, youre wrong. Tasers are found on the same level as Pepper spray and the baton, one level above “Empty Hand Control” and one level below “Less than lethal”
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM
I HOPE THAT OFFICER IS FIRED — IMMEDIATELY — That is the worst case of abuse I have ever seen…far worse than the Rodney King beating and lethal since lots of folks have been dying from tasers lately… What was that “cop” thinking?
IntheNet on November 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Also, radar guns are only accurate if they are stationary and aimed at an oncoming vehicle. I wonder if that dashboard camera records the cops speed.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM
WHAAAAAH Fire the Cop WHHAAAAH
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:03 PM
If an officer says to me to stop, I’m going to stop….not get back in my car and drive away.
I’m going to my cousin’s house for T-day. Both she and her brother are cops. I’ll ask them what they think.
baldilocks on November 21, 2007 at 10:04 PM
This guy was told by the officer what he had done wrong…speeding. He argues that he wasn’t. He refuses to hand over his information for over two minutes. The cop is writing him a ticket he refuses to sign it. He is told to put his hands on the car and he refuses and starts to walk back towards his car. If the officer lets him make it to the car where this man has a gun the officer may be dead.
I don’t know about most of you, but I was taught by my parents to follow a policeman’s directions. Their job is tough enough without having to listen to some a$$clown argue and refuse to listen to them all day. Heck if this guy fights the ticket in court he’d probably get off any way.
If this guy just follows the directions there is no problem here. None.
Wake up people you’re not that special that you don’t have to follow the laws or the directions of police officers.
Mich_93 on November 21, 2007 at 10:05 PM
The guy, driver, was a bit of an ass, BUT the cop was WAY too quick to use the taser.
The driver should have signed the ticket and gone to court over it.
Gatordoug on November 21, 2007 at 10:05 PM
The fool was resisting arrest. If the officer had tried to physically subdue him there may have been a physical altercation resulting in his or the officers injury or death. The Taser was the best solution for both parties. It got the fool’s attention, and the officer got to go home that night. ‘Works for me’.
Helloyawl on November 21, 2007 at 10:05 PM
He could be reprimanded for using excessive force. Would you guys have been okay if he chicken-winged the guy into a mean arm-bar take-down? Just curious…he would have been totally in the right to do that…but he will probably be punished for excessive force, not fired.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:06 PM
Isn’t that the cop from “Meet the Fockers?” Total abuse of power and excessive force. The cop should be fired, at a minimum.
Kalapana on November 21, 2007 at 10:06 PM
I would have tased him too…people walking back to their vehicles when an officer has ordered them to stop has ended badly many times for officers.
EnochCain on November 21, 2007 at 10:07 PM
that cop must have been waiting for any opertunity to use that tazer.
im glad i dont drive, there are to many of these incidents happening imo.
trailortrash on November 21, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Good point EnochCain, my buddy is a PO in GA and the videos they show as lesson’s learned are paid for in blood. They never end well when the cops orders are being disregarded…the videos are gut wrenching.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:08 PM
I worked in a traffic court for 8 years. It depends on the laws with the individual county or city. Cities could make it much easier on everyone involved if they did as my city does. The tickets state that it doesn’t matter if you sign it or not.. it’s still valid.
I have a hard time giving any credit to citizens who argue with an officer. I could tell HUNDREDS of stories about the morons who made trouble for themselves because they couldn’t keep their traps shut. There are bad cops out there but their numbers are minuscule compared to the freak shows in the general public.
Now a bit of advice..The next time you get pulled over, remember this..The more you open your mouth.. the more an officer is going to remember about you and the traffic stop in court (That is BAD for YOU, not him). Just shut your pie-hole, be pleasant, fight it in court, not the side of the road.
GoodBoy on November 21, 2007 at 10:09 PM
I agree that I think the tasering was a bit much, however, the guy was ignoring the officer’s requests to stop. I don’t care if the cop was dead wrong, you listen to what he/she says, take the ticket, say thank you and take it to court.
Unless of course he wants to shoot your dog.
4shoes on November 21, 2007 at 10:10 PM
I’ve never understood people who insist on arguing with cops.
I mean WTF….like they’re suddenly gonna go “Hey, you know — you’re absolutely right. You weren’t going 90 in a 65mph zone. You’re now free to go. Have a nice day”
Seriously dumb.
The Ugly American on November 21, 2007 at 10:10 PM
The kid deserved it for his attitude and behaviour. What an idiot that punk kid was.
Good for the cop.
Ron Snyder on November 21, 2007 at 10:10 PM
He should have made a note on the ticket that the guy refused to sign it, handed it to him and said I’ll see you in court. The guy was obviously a harmless dweeb and the cops actions caused the situation to escalate. I guarantee you his superior officer watched that tape and then ripped him a new one for letting a traffic stop get so out of hand. The right to use deadly or near deadly force demands rational thought and not emotional, one upmanship, emotional reactions.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Watch the video again. The guy refused the orders of the Police Officer and as he turned away from the cop, he was reaching into his pocket. The moron is lucky he’s not dead.
Bomb Doctor on November 21, 2007 at 10:11 PM
The officer should have shot the little b’tard.
Griz on November 21, 2007 at 10:11 PM
and
#1 – he wasn’t even close to his vehicle. This was a power play
#2 – He was not resisting arrest. Look up the definition.
Had the suspect (citizen) had reached his vehicle, then yes, taser him. But he was not even close.
This guy has a big payday coming.
This was just a plain use of power by an arrogant cop.
lsutiger on November 21, 2007 at 10:12 PM
LOL!
inviolet on November 21, 2007 at 10:13 PM
it was funny when he dropped like a bag of potatoes.
and i wish there was a closeup of the guy’s wife/gf. she looked pretty cute.
lorien1973 on November 21, 2007 at 10:16 PM
this thread is full of lurkers taking the position contrary to the regular posting community.
just noting, is all.
jummy on November 21, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Bravo for the cop. The guy did not follow instructions.
Tooo many cops have been killed by these creeps who
start to argue then get the drop on the cop.
These guys (cops) can’t be to careful. Good job officer.
Texyank on November 21, 2007 at 10:18 PM
P & P,
Do you think I just made up the one-up doctrine all willy-nilly?? I didn’t it is the most logical and efficient way to bring a situation under control if the officer perceives it to be out-of-control. You move one level above the level of resistance…police aren’t there to persuade you to follow their instructions through rationale. Rationale went out the window when Mr. Jerkweed blew off the police officer. Again, read what I wrote, tasers aren’t considered Deadly force nor are they considered NEAR DEADLY…they are to be used anytime one decides to use the PR-24 Side Handle Baton or the Pepper spray. I think your feelings and emotions are overblown because you PERCEIVE tazers as deadly because they’ve killed a minute amount of people…
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:18 PM
When a police officer tells you to do something, you do it. It’s that simple. He told him to turn around, and put his hands behind his back, and he didn’t. He continued walking away from him. That is a very stupid thing to do. Tasering might have been an excessive use of force. Maybe. The guy was with a girl. If he had been alone, or with another guy, the officer would have been completely justified. You got to remember that the number one place police officers get killed is routine traffic stops. Nevertheless, I think the officer may have misjudged the threat. That said, people crying “fire him” obviously have no experience with law enforcement work..
WillBarrett on November 21, 2007 at 10:20 PM
I was two blocks from my house. I stopped at a stop sign, looked both ways and then turned left. There was no other cars in sight and the cop came around a curve to my left just as I was turning. He wipped around, pulled me over, demanded my license, insurance and registration. I gave it to him and asked him what I did. As he was walking back to his car he said over his shoulder that I didn’t come to a complete stop. He came back with the ticket filled out and started to explain how I could pay the ticket. That’s when I told him I didn’t want to hear how to pay it and really didn’t appreciate getting a ticket for something I didn’t do when a month earlier I had called the cops about my car being broken into and was told that there wasn’t anything they could do and NEVER even came out to make a report. The cop was a dick, raising revenue. I did everything he told me and then let him have a piece of my mind. I will not be intimidated by a cop. I am not a criminal. They work for me. He was wrong. My lawyer and I went to court, he didn’t have the balls to show up and the ticket was dismissed.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Driver was a total prick. No argument there.
But, in my opinion, the officer was way too quick with the taser – he could have used physical force to push the guy on the car and handcuff him. But he went straight to the taser. It does not look like his use complies with the standards laid out above – was the driver threatening harm to himself or others? Was he un-restrainable in other ways? It doesn’t look like it at all. Prick? Defs. Violent un-subduable threat? Not so much.
It doesn’t matter though – the fact is that I wasn’t there, so my opinion doesn’t matter all that much.
nailinmyeye on November 21, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Yes. He did. He refused to follow the officer’s orders. Then pace back and forth arguing with the officer in a beligerent and therefore threatening way.
Someone already mentioned the hand in pocket. If the officer had not had a tazer, he would have had every cause pulled his gun at this point.
Bomb Doctor is right. The guy is lucky the officer didn’t shoot him.
Lawrence on November 21, 2007 at 10:22 PM
That’s great, the system works the way it is supposed to…seems like you are holding a grudge..
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:23 PM
That cop is the worst example of the phrase “contempt of cop” because it was such a petty situation. When a cop like that takes pleasure in showing his unlimited power over someone who simply argues with him he has no business carrying a gun at all.
Take note at the end of the video with the two cops talking. The simple fact that the driver of the van didn’t “obey” him was enough for him to taser the guy. That’s the only reason he did it and he seemed amazed that anyone would not do as he told him to do.
I hope that cop does not have a wife and kids. If he does I pity them.
Jaynie59 on November 21, 2007 at 10:23 PM
I hope this pig dies in a fire.
F.T.P.
amish on November 21, 2007 at 10:25 PM
If in Utah it is not mandatory to sign the ticket, the whole situation deteriorated because of this cops actions. Tell me it is illegal to refuse to sign a traffic citation in Utah and a little more blame goes on the dweeb but ultimately this cop let a minor situation spiral out of control. He was unprofessional and his judgement shoul rightfully be questioned. NO ONE is infallible. A badge is not a license to be stupid.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:25 PM
Yeah. Been there. The difference is that you and I didn’t get out of our cars and start marching around.
Giving the cop some lip is one thing. Getting out and acting in any way threatening is something very stupid.
Lawrence on November 21, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Jaynie,
Again you are judging the situation from your standpoint, the other side of the blue line. If he does he had every intention of seeing them after his shift…why do you insist on judging these officers’ snap decisions from the comfort of your computer…do a ride along…for heaven’s sake.
One of the worst police vids I have ever seen was when a woman cop bulled over some big dude—the woman and dude were talking and the daughter was standing right next to the father, he sucker-punched the female cop, got on top of her and hit her so many times she needed crania-facial reconstruction…in front of the criminals daughter…no excuse for DISOBEYING
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:27 PM
You spent $200 to get out of a $40 ticket? Makes sense.
lorien1973 on November 21, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Respect my authoritah!!!
rmgraha on November 21, 2007 at 10:28 PM
I’m usually one of the biggest “the cop always gets the benefit of the doubt” people, but this is messed up. First off, I’m not sure if not signing a traffic ticket is grounds for arrest, but even if it was, the kid was walking away at that point… and if the rules Allah posted are the way it is, then the cop was wrong. I do have to wonder what the deal was with the kid not signing the ticket though. Unless it’s different in Utah, I’m pretty sure signing the ticket isn’t an admission of guilt. You go home and either sign something and mail in your check or you check a box that you’re contesting it. You don’t say you’re going to walk and look at it now, etc.
But again, that cop was wild. Why couldn’t he have just said “look kid, I can’t walk back with you and look at the sign. But signing this isn’t an admission of guilt. You can contest it and if you’re right, you’ll win.” If the kid still wanted to be a smartass at that point, and if refusing to sign is grounds for arrest, then perhaps there would have been an eventual tasering.
RightWinged on November 21, 2007 at 10:29 PM
A badge is not a license to be stupid.
yes it is. Its also a badge to be a bully. Its a badge to be corrupt. Its a badge to be able to kill and get away with it.
This kind of crap has been happening for years now. Now there are just more video cameras around to prove it.
amish on November 21, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Feels like a good night for a banning! You down, Allah?
RightWinged on November 21, 2007 at 10:29 PM
The officer overreacted…the officer’s use of force was unwarrented. Okay.
When is the officer in a life threatening situation? Was it when the man refused to sign the citation? No. Was it when the man argued with him? No.
The man refused to obey the officers order to submit. The man was in no danger to himself by submitting to the officers commands and was not saving himself from harm by disobeying the officer. He was willfully disregarding the officer and was returning to his vehicle against the orders of the officer.
You are that officer. You have a belligerant who is resisting you at every turn and he is now making his way back to his vehicle.
Read the man’s mind. Is he going to get back in and speed off? Lock the doors and taunt you? Get a drink? Find a pen to sign the citation? Get his cell phone and call his lawyer? Get a weapon? You tell me, what is he going to do back at the vehicle?
The officer sure as hell didn’t know. I sure as hell don’t know. But one of those answers meant the officers life.
You can cry for the dude’s civil rights and his day in court will evaluate this event, but nobody died and that’s good enough for me.
There is no happy ending in fighting the Law, no matter how much smarter you are or how much you truly believe deep,deep down in your heart that you can mouth your way out of any situation. If the Law does you wrong, you fight it in court. While the officer is on the scene, you follow orders. If the scene is so far into horrendous and so far into wrong that you have to break with that rule, you better be more than right in fighting. And from what was on that tape, dude was a loooong way from being right in resisting.
Texan on November 21, 2007 at 10:30 PM
No it isn’t, the officer will be held to account if they find he did wrong, but there was no real harm…why are we so soft these days…apologize, give REASONABLE compensation and reprimand the officer…have you ever been in a situation where the decisions you made could potentially be life and death? Your judgments are a bit too harsh and delivered from too high of a tower for my comfort.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:31 PM
FWIW – Last time I got a failure to stop ticket (admittedly, about 10 years ago), it was $350.
nailinmyeye on November 21, 2007 at 10:31 PM
Yes. Clearly the officer could have been in danger here. I don’t know the laws in Utah, but it looks like the driver committed obstruction of a police officer when he refused the officer’s commands.
All that over a speeding ticket. Idiot.
bigbeas on November 21, 2007 at 10:31 PM
go ahead. Ban me. I dont ever post here anyways. Just sick of cops.
p.s.Please ban that guy csdseven or whatever his name is too. He sucks.
amish on November 21, 2007 at 10:31 PM
Well put Texan.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:33 PM
amish, you sound like a hippie.
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:33 PM
.
No one is perfect, drive for a living and there is always a chance to get tickets. Why should I get points for something I didn’t do and watch my insurance get raised? It could cost me more then $40 over the course of a year. And I could care less about $200 when I was getting ripped off.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:33 PM
In my state it’s not an admission of guilt to sign.
I was anti-tasing the moonbat kid, but I’m pro-cop here. I have considerable sympathy for the hazards of stopping people that already have visibly broken at least one law. All comments regarding power and abuse acknowledged.
Spirit of 1776 on November 21, 2007 at 10:35 PM
Wow. Was there a recent “membership drive” at HotAir?
Jummy’s on to something.
ej_pez on November 21, 2007 at 10:36 PM
dude – that was funny.
nailinmyeye on November 21, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Yeah I know..I know a woman who was a cop in Miss. and she showed me some of those videos…one of the worst being a Georgia State Trooper being shot dead by a guy who did just what this guy did which was disobey the officers commands and returned to his vehicle..he got a rifle and shot the poor trooper and listening to that mans dying screams was horrible.
EnochCain on November 21, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Everybody hates cops until they need one.
EnochCain on November 21, 2007 at 10:39 PM
I saw that one too…it breaks my heart to see that stuff happen…
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Amish this post if for people like you:
That cop mess up MAJOR. He should have put that dude in the back of his cruiser immediately after cuffing and while reading his rights, and not leave him to go up and talk to the woman.
That said. That dude was an idiot and had it coming. Threat or not, he did try to flee (not run, but still ignored officer’s orders and walk away) Seeing how the officer was alone at that time, he decided to taser instead of risking a physical altercation by chasing down and having to grab someone who is resisting arrest. This is not the Soviet Union, yet, unless more far left liberals are elected. If a cop pulls you over it is for a legal reason, and you do what he says. De-de-dee! Let me say that again DO WHAT HE SAYS! If you are wrongfully arrested, then you can later sue if you feel you have a case to prove misconduct and not just tot get rich. Plus, ignorance (not seeing the posted speed limit sign) is not an excuse, and it never works in court. What an idiot.
He took a ride on the taser! LMAO! That is awesome! I’m going to use that one from now on!
He should have just taken the ticket and tried to fight it in court. What an IDIOT! De-de-dee!
El Guapo on November 21, 2007 at 10:40 PM
You make it sound like everyone who thinks the cop was wrong are defending the driver. The driver was an idiot, he should of took the ticket and got right on the phone to his lawyer or he should have sucked it up and payed for it. But it’s the cops job to be ready to deal with situations like this at any time. He was the controlling presence and got in a pissing match with this idiot. If it is not the law in Utah that the ticket be signed then after the point the guy refused to sign nothing the cop did was right. My uncle was a NYC cop. I have a freind who is a cop. I have a freind and former teammate who is a retired cop. I am not anti cop. I am anti idiots who shouldn’t be cops.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:41 PM
I hope that patrolman gets the vacation he deserves. My tax dollars would be well spent letting him sit in prison with an assault conviction to get over his omnipotence.
infidel on November 21, 2007 at 10:42 PM
The cop should lose his job and the kid should sue him.
Dusty on November 21, 2007 at 10:43 PM
P & P,
I don’t see how you are siding with the perp? He dealt with the situation, nobody died and no one was injured, I will grant you he (the trooper) jumped from 0-60 mph, but it isn’t about being civil-out there, the police officer made a snap decision…
ColdBore76 on November 21, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Ok sure there is a perceived threat with they guys actions and heading back to his vehicle in all. I’m not sure if I would have pulled the tazer so quick. Probably would have depended on my mood at the moment. I think the cop does have a bit of a big head though. Seemed to me his story to the other cop was slightly embelished.
The thing that stuck out to me that most though was when the cop went back to they guys vehicle and started searching around the drivers seat. He said something to the effect that he needed to check and see if there was anything he needed to know about. I don’t recall him asking permission to search the vehicle. I know from my limited experience with LE that a search warrant is usually obtained (reguardless of probable cause, gotta have all the t’s crossed and i’s dotted ya know) if there is time and someone’s life is not in danger. I question whether that was even a legal search.
boomer on November 21, 2007 at 10:45 PM
The first part of my post about having to sign the ticket was meant for you.. not the rest of it.
However.. being “intimidated” by a cop is kinda childish. You can be just as un-intimidated in keeping quiet. An overwhelming desire to open our mouths is truly unwise and shows immaturity. That is what liberals do.
Some cops have to show up to traffic court on their own time and can’t make it. Some have to show up when they are scheduled to work. Some don’t care. Some decide to give you a break if you were polite during the stop. Some don’t remember enough about it to fight against you. Thinking you intimidated him to not show up.. nope. Tick them off and you hurt your chances of getting a dismissal. It’s pretty simple to understand.
GoodBoy on November 21, 2007 at 10:46 PM
When I get pulled over, I follow instructions without question. That officer however went overboard.
SIJ6141 on November 21, 2007 at 10:48 PM
I hope those folks sue the living sh*t out of that asshat and the county/state he works for.
“Sign this or get tazed”?!?!?!?!?
Best part is the cop lying about what happened and the other cop saying “Good for you”.
A good lawyer would make sure that “Dudley Do-right” couldn’t get a job with Wackenhut when the trial was finished.
Looks like we have some tazer happy freaks dressed like cops these days.
Talon on November 21, 2007 at 10:49 PM
EnochCain
I teach counter IED classes to our deploying troops. The class before mine is Arming and Use of Force. I’ve watched that video you describe at least twice a week for the past nine months.
The police officer waited too long to pull his own weapon. If you watch the video, you can hear the snap as he finally unholsters his weapon, too late to save his own life.
Anyone who thinks the cop in this current video was wrong is just too stupid to even attempt to show the facts to.
Bomb Doctor on November 21, 2007 at 10:50 PM
In other words be intimidated by his power and what he could do to him if you cross him.
It is mind boggling that people here are willing to cede unquestioned authority to the police because they have a dangerous job. Does that mean because a cop has a dangerous job no use of lethal force should be questioned? Standing up for our rights is immature? You are quite the sheep.
peacenprosperity on November 21, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Thanks for your analysis. Maybe you will be surprised when the cop is disciplined. I will withhold my opinion of you until then.
infidel on November 21, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Some cops are evil and deserve deserve the death penalty for abuse of power, but this cop is not one of them. This cop faced adult spoiled children in a car. By the time people are old enough to drive they should learn to act with some reasonableness & if they can’t they deserve to be tased until they figure it out. (& I’m an artsy friend of moonbats saying this.)
thuja on November 21, 2007 at 10:56 PM
It is mind boggling that people here are willing to cede unquestioned authority to the police because they have a dangerous job. Does that mean because a cop has a dangerous job no use of lethal force should be questioned? Standing up for our rights is immature? You are quite the sheep.
QFT
You pretty much summed up my thought exactly. I just get so ticked when i see otherwise reasonable people defending this sort of thing, i fly off the handle.
amish on November 21, 2007 at 10:56 PM
My point exactly. Thy tool resisted arrest by treating the cop like a pushover and walking away – back to his vehicle wher he could have a weapon or could just speed away and put other travelers in danger. If charges are filed, I think this video will make the driver look even more at fault for his tasing. DO WHAT THE COP SAYS!
Bomb Doctor And thanks for training us troops. That stuff is and was useful! I had similar courses at CST at FT McCoy.
El Guapo on November 21, 2007 at 10:58 PM
This officer had his weapon out well before any risk. If there was a risk, he was in a position to use force effectively. The fact that he did not need to use force in this matter, and his arrogance after the fact, is what makes it a use of power.
As I said before, all respect for the guy and gals in the blue. But this guy had a trigger happy finger.
lsutiger on November 21, 2007 at 10:58 PM
Here’s another example of what cops have to go through. I had a client come into the office to dispute an illegal turn ticket. He went on and on about how he used his left arm to signal a turn and didn’t use his turn signal. He was furious and kept telling the same story over and over about the hand signal he used. There was only one problem. The drivers left arm hand been amputated about 6 inches below his shoulder.
The whole time I was looking for the cameras and Ashton Kutcher to pop out.
GoodBoy on November 21, 2007 at 10:58 PM
The stop sign laws are getting a lot a lot of revenue these days. Some states apparently have laws that say a legal stop is one in which your wheels are stationary for 2 or 3 or 4 seconds. Really, who stops at every stop sign that long? Revenue source waiting to be tapped.
As for the tasing: the cop was definitely ‘quick on the trigger’ as he was pulling the taser out even before he finishes asking the driver to put his hands behind his back. Later when he recounts the incident to the other cop, he makes it sound like he pulled out the taser after having his hand-behind-the-back command refused 2 or 3 times.
Was the driver stupid? Yes. Was the cop itching for a confrontation? Definitely.
rockbend on November 21, 2007 at 10:59 PM
i would suspend the cop, who in my opinion used more force more quickly than he needed to, and hit the driver with the max allowable charge of failure to obey a lawman.
what a buffoon. picking an argument with a cop with kids in the car. its simple: If you dont cooperate or if you resist after being pulled over, then they get to crack you, no matter how smart and hip and aware of your rights you are.
they’re both toolbags, who need to master some basic skills.
Mike D. on November 21, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Yeah soon they will just taze you first and then cite you. I mean ALL that matters is the OFFICERS safety right? That is clearly the safest option for the OFFICER. Citizens can go to hell. I mean they’re the enemy after all.
ronsfi on November 21, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Sorry, people that shoot cops can act just like that before they pull a weapon. You don’t do what the cop says you pay the price. Better someone tazed by mistake than a cop killed for being lenient.
Buford on November 21, 2007 at 11:01 PM
this popo should be put in jail, last time I checked they work for us
libertytexan on November 21, 2007 at 11:02 PM
#1 taser is NONlethal
#2 the wanker resisted arrest the momet he blew off the cop and walked back towards his vehicle. If I were alone, as the cop was, I would tase him too in order to avoid a messier situation of physically chasing the guy down and having to use physical force. He should have just signed the ticket. Ignorance is not an excuse to breaking the law, in any state.
thuja has it right. That dude was probably a never-been-discliplined spoiled brat. This is not the USSR. Do as the cop says. If the cop turned out to be wrong, then you have an even stronger case against him. People need to use their heads instead of their emotions.
El Guapo on November 21, 2007 at 11:04 PM
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