Comments on: Karim and Amar; Update: Disputed? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:46:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 6db4b96ce26c http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-1117966 6db4b96ce26c Sun, 11 May 2008 19:40:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-1117966 <strong>6db4b96ce26c...</strong> 6db4b96ce26ccf67ff2f... 6db4b96ce26c…

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]]> By: Ace of Spades HQ http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788895 Ace of Spades HQ Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:45:01 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788895 <strong>Actual Nuance From a NYT Reporter On Improvements In Iraq...</strong> Worth reading in full. He mixes both upside and downside news but one has the sense he's basically on the level, if not necessarily correct about everything. The basic thrust is that the current situation is a "fragile calm," which...... Actual Nuance From a NYT Reporter On Improvements In Iraq…

Worth reading in full. He mixes both upside and downside news but one has the sense he’s basically on the level, if not necessarily correct about everything. The basic thrust is that the current situation is a “fragile calm,” which……

]]> By: bnelson44 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788254 bnelson44 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:22:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788254 <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article2910230.ece" rel="nofollow">Road From Damascus Iraqis are voting with their feet by returning home after exile</a> Road From Damascus
Iraqis are voting with their feet by returning home after exile

]]> By: thuja http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788123 thuja Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:55:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788123 The problem may be that we face Islamic aggression and may have to respond very forcefully instead of our deluded attempts to give the savages a chance to establish democracy. As weird as it may sound to people on the left and on the George W right, our problem is simply that Islam is an evil religion that creates monsters--just like Nazism. The problem may be that we face Islamic aggression and may have to respond very forcefully instead of our deluded attempts to give the savages a chance to establish democracy. As weird as it may sound to people on the left and on the George W right, our problem is simply that Islam is an evil religion that creates monsters–just like Nazism.

]]> By: billy http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788093 billy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:41:55 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788093 Ahh. The Thanksgiving Holiday, Eee-yore style. Ahh.
The Thanksgiving Holiday, Eee-yore style.

]]> By: JiangxiDad http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788075 JiangxiDad Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:34:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788075 <blockquote>At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: "Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.</blockquote> Same for Iraq I suppose.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: “Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” “A republic if you can keep it” responded Franklin.

Same for Iraq I suppose.

]]> By: Zetterson http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788067 Zetterson Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:31:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788067 <blockquote>Now would be the time to get the hell out of Dodge. Griz on November 21, 2007 at 10:21 AM</blockquote> I suspect you might be right Griz. Unfortunately that could also prove to be a complete and total disaster. I sure hope the decider knows what he's doing.

Now would be the time to get the hell out of Dodge.

Griz on November 21, 2007 at 10:21 AM

I suspect you might be right Griz. Unfortunately that could also prove to be a complete and total disaster. I sure hope the decider knows what he’s doing.

]]> By: bnelson44 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788058 bnelson44 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:27:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788058 <blockquote>Give it a month or two. I think there is a lag with public opinion. When “good news” is the norm, not news, (which will be in a month or two,) then the public’s support will increase.</blockquote> I think we all know that the good news only just began to come out in the MSM this week.

Give it a month or two. I think there is a lag with public opinion. When “good news” is the norm, not news, (which will be in a month or two,) then the public’s support will increase.

I think we all know that the good news only just began to come out in the MSM this week.

]]> By: Griz http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788053 Griz Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:21:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788053 Now would be the time to get the hell out of Dodge. Now would be the time to get the hell out of Dodge.

]]> By: AlexB http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788048 AlexB Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:20:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788048 <blockquote>Meanwhile, after three months of security gains, U.S. public opinion is almost exactly what it was in August.</blockquote> Give it a month or two. I think there is a lag with public opinion. When "good news" is the norm, not news, (which will be in a month or two,) then the public's support will increase.

Meanwhile, after three months of security gains, U.S. public opinion is almost exactly what it was in August.

Give it a month or two. I think there is a lag with public opinion. When “good news” is the norm, not news, (which will be in a month or two,) then the public’s support will increase.

]]> By: bnelson44 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788027 bnelson44 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:03:07 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788027 OK, I read it again, he is in Jordan. But the quote that people love to quote: <blockquote>Zaidan said that Anbar’s Sunni tribes no longer had any need to exact blood vengeance on U.S. forces. “We’ve already taken our revenge,” he said. “We’re the ones who’ve made them crawl on their stomachs, and now we’re the ones to pick them up.” He added, “Once Anbar is settled, we must take control of Baghdad, and we will.” There would have to be a lot more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites, he said. “The Anbaris will take charge of the purge. What the whole world failed to do in Anbar, we have done overnight. Baghdad will be a lot easier.”</blockquote> Couldn't he have been referring to the events right before the calming of Baghdad, not something that is going to happen in the future? Couldn't he be referring to JAM when he referred to "more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites"? If the interview occurred a couple of months ago, when Baghdad was still in the throws of JAM vs al-Qaeda fighting, I would be more inclined to think that is what he was referring to. OK, I read it again, he is in Jordan. But the quote that people love to quote:

Zaidan said that Anbar’s Sunni tribes no longer had any need to exact blood vengeance on U.S. forces. “We’ve already taken our revenge,” he said. “We’re the ones who’ve made them crawl on their stomachs, and now we’re the ones to pick them up.” He added, “Once Anbar is settled, we must take control of Baghdad, and we will.” There would have to be a lot more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites, he said. “The Anbaris will take charge of the purge. What the whole world failed to do in Anbar, we have done overnight. Baghdad will be a lot easier.”

Couldn’t he have been referring to the events right before the calming of Baghdad, not something that is going to happen in the future? Couldn’t he be referring to JAM when he referred to “more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites”?

If the interview occurred a couple of months ago, when Baghdad was still in the throws of JAM vs al-Qaeda fighting, I would be more inclined to think that is what he was referring to.

]]> By: Clark1 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788024 Clark1 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:01:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788024 I'll say it again: These people can "position" themselves all they want. The longer they stay quiet, the more it works to our advantage. People who see calm finally emerge will be unlikely to want chaos to return, regardless of whether it is driven by Shi'ites or Sunni - and local informers were the key to defeating AQI. And the Iraqi army is improving, so the longer "they" wait, the more of any subsequent fight that can be shouldered by Iraqis. I’ll say it again: These people can “position” themselves all they want. The longer they stay quiet, the more it works to our advantage. People who see calm finally emerge will be unlikely to want chaos to return, regardless of whether it is driven by Shi’ites or Sunni – and local informers were the key to defeating AQI. And the Iraqi army is improving, so the longer “they” wait, the more of any subsequent fight that can be shouldered by Iraqis.

]]> By: bnelson44 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-788006 bnelson44 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-788006 Isn't Zaidan al-Awad in Jordan? Isn’t Zaidan al-Awad in Jordan?

]]> By: Dr. Gecko http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/comment-page-1/#comment-787985 Dr. Gecko Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:30:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/21/karim-and-amar/#comment-787985 Thanks for whizzing on my Cheerios this morning.... Sometimes it would be nice to just ENJOY the success, just for a little bit. Thanks for whizzing on my Cheerios this morning….

Sometimes it would be nice to just ENJOY the success, just for a little bit.

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