this is a crucial moment for the actual libertarians accosiated with paul. the only way to save the gains they’ve made with his campaign is to be open and explicit in disavowing the white nationalist cranks and the illuminatti conspiracist cranks and all the other parasites who havce attatched themselves to his campaign.

Why can’t he just disavow their beliefs, as he has publicly spoken against 9/11 “trutherism” and racism? If he’s done that, and they continue to support him, then it must be for some other reason. I don’t dismiss racists and the paranoid altogether. I dismiss their paranoia and their racism. They’re still Americans with the right to vote and the right to support the candidate of their choice.

Furthermore, by directly addressing specific individuals and refunding donations, the Paul campaign could well do more harm than good, by exposing more people to mindless “guilt by association” temptations. His campaign doesn’t “accept” donations in any active sense of the word, and he shouldn’t be expected to refund money to every potentially unsavory character nominated by the Internet hordes.

It’s a stupid red herring, and what it really shows is how utterly unwilling the pro-war right is to address the substance and historical/Constitutional basis of Dr. Paul’s positions. Go and look at the posts and comments on this blog. See how many address his positions and how many are personal attacks, red herrings, or straw man attacks. It’s pathetic.

Youtube have been under political pressure to do something about extremists. They don’t want to get rid of the jihadists, so they offer up the white guy as a sacrifice – to show the world they care.

Frank Weltner’s dismissal can now be wheeled out every time youtube are (rightly) accused of providing a platform for antisemites.

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jummy on November 17, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Not surprising. I’ve heard of White Nationalist organizations getting plagued with even more asinine crap.

I have only been flagging his hate vids every day from the first warning until a week ago.

Amazes me how fast ewetube will pull anti-illegal immigration vids or other conserative vids, but this Nazi can post uninterupted for nearly a year.

Bad Candy on November 17, 2007 at 3:10 PM

glad you liked it. somnething you realize from wading into the white racialist muck is that the “white power” movement can hardly be said to exist in any serious way, and groups like the splc who are dedicated to “warning” us of their “influence” are fear-mogngering hacks working towards equally pernicious ends.

Mark Jaquith on November 17, 2007 at 3:22 PM

mark, i agree that the “ron paul is a nazi” stuff has become a facile taunt, but paul sure hasn’t been helped at all by either his supporters or his own reticence.

about a month ago i was feeling rather supportive of what appeared to be a genuine resurgence of libertarian might under paul’s campaign, but now it looks very, very dirty.

this is a crucial moment for the actual libertarians accosiated with paul. the only way to save the gains they’ve made with his campaign is to be open and explicit in disavowing the white nationalist cranks and the illuminatti conspiracist cranks and all the other parasites who havce attatched themselves to his campaign. this circling of the wagons is only going to hurt everyone.

Mark Jaquith on November 17, 2007 at 3:22 PM

Awww…is someone bitter?

Dude, you can’t deny it, The Only Man Who Can Save America has accepted money from shady people who aren’t too far off the mark from this slimeball, and he hasn’t returned it AFAIK, till he does, he’s gonna get smacked around for it.

L’Chaim!

I forget, was he a supporter of America’s Greatest Patriot?

Wow. You’re so lazy that not only do you reduce political judgements to infantile and meaningless guilt-by-association jabs… you’re too lazy to even make the damn associations yourself!

http://www.zogsnightmare.com/index!.htm

lots of ugly crap at the link, nsfw. but if you can suppress your gag reflex long enough to scroll down and read, all the dirty underoos are hung out.

what it all basicly boils down to is that the whole american neo-nazi movement is comprised of an incestuous group of about a dozen larpers who are now breaking up with all the drama and consequence of any year-old no-name garage band you might think of.

bill white is a character who illustrates the fundamental truth of radical fringe fetishism – the only difference between a skinhead and an anarchist or communist is in the slogans and insignias they wear to the all-ages show.

bill white started out as an anarchosocialist, fell in love with a national socialist, and subsequenty traversed the short distance from “anti-zionism” to “anti-zog”. then they broke up, and his girfreind went the other direction, attaching herself to the maoist “one-peoples” project.

btw, the “commander” of the nsm, bill white, last gave campaign donations to…..his local democrats!

WHITE, WILLIAM
ROANOKE,VA 24019
RETIRED
9/3/2004
$500
6th Congr Dist Demo Cmte of Virginia

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=bbk8k&txtName=white&txtState=VA&txtAll=Y&Order=N&Cycles=A&page=20

funny vid

Anyways, it’s good to hear youtube did something useful for once.

Now they should concentrate on the jihad hate speech. (Though I wouldn’t hold my breath.)