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Rudy’s website dead last in October traffic among top six Republicans

posted at 7:35 pm on November 14, 2007 by Allahpundit
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And the man who ran, and then didn’t run, the first Net-based presidential campaign finishes a dismal fifth. Follow the link and eyeball those numbers; the Democratic traffic rankings almost perfectly mirror the national polls while the Republican traffic rankings are almost a perfect inversion of the national polls. (Mitt is the outlier.) Why is that? And how is it that the Republican frontrunner does less than half the monthly traffic that Chris Dodd does? I know the left has a greater online presence than we do and I know Dodd is a nutroots heartthrob, but I’ll bet there are blogs that pull as many uniques as Rudy’s pulling. I’m tempted to chalk it up to the Democratic base trending younger and Net savvier than the GOP’s (which would also explain Paul’s showing, given his support among kids), but Mitt and Huck do respectably and they’re firmly mainstream. What gives?


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website? we don’t need no stinking website…

tommylotto on November 14, 2007 at 7:39 PM

Does this mean that only stupid people use the internet?

ChrisM on November 14, 2007 at 7:41 PM

It’s probably due to the fact that the lefty blogs link to specific candidate blogs more often, which makes sense given their larger advocacy role.

Slublog on November 14, 2007 at 7:43 PM

George Pataki laughs at that.

JammieWearingFool on November 14, 2007 at 7:44 PM

Howard Dean had unquestionably the biggest net-support of any presidential candidate a few years ago.

Result: complete and utter failure.

I understand that this is a political blog for the most part, but everyone needs to take a step back and remember that we bloggers have a tendedncy to believe that the ’sphere is a bit more influential than it really is. Look at how successful Kos was in supporting their candidates.

“Net appeal” should not be at the top of the priorities list for any candidate. Not to say it isn’t important, but the AARP crowd doesn’t really spend much time online.

Tman on November 14, 2007 at 7:44 PM

more proof the Internet is dominated by Libs, Libertarians and Libertines.

jp on November 14, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Does this mean that only stupid people use the internet?

ChrisM on November 14, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Uv cors knot. me rnt stoopd.

Splashman on November 14, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Mitt and Huck do respectably and they’re firmly mainstream. What gives?

Religion. Religion has a strong online presence. It makes sense that they have strong numbers. At least to me.

Theworldisnotenough on November 14, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Or maybe Rudy is the only one that is accurately recording and reporting his ‘hits’.

I’ve seen SO many websites and webmasters who either outright lie about their hits, and ‘forge’ the ‘documentation’ about it, or count every single file ‘hit’ in the entire website as if each was a visit by a different person. etc.

In short, I don’t trust anyone’s reported hit count… Even the ones on my sites.

LegendHasIt on November 14, 2007 at 8:02 PM

But in the big picture,what,what does it all mean!

canopfor on November 14, 2007 at 8:05 PM

more proof the Internet is dominated by Libs, Libertarians and Libertines.

jp on November 14, 2007 at 7:47 PM

I think you are all missing the point here. AMONG REPUBLICANS Rudy is way behind. With all the ’support’ out there, the numbers should mirror that like it does for the Democrats.

I guess this is the polar opposite of ‘bridge to the 21st century’ and the claim that Al Gore ‘invented the internet’. A vote for Rudy leaves us in the dust where technology is concerned.

As was posted. Rudy would say, ‘Who needs the internet?’ (do you see the poll numbers). Or maybe more appropriately. . . ‘what’s an internet’. The internet is THE BEST WAY to get a message out. Rudy would rather not have a message other than, I’m the front-runner. As soon as he isn’t the front-runner, he won’t look like a very good candidate.

ThackerAgency on November 14, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Could it have something to do with the fact that people know where Rudy stands on the issues (or at least think they do) so there’s less of a need to go to his website?

I actually did go to his website the other day and it was surprisingly boring and didn’t seem to be very thorough, but admittedly it was a very brief visit.

Mitt’s website is much better…

Buy Danish on November 14, 2007 at 8:07 PM

Dead last?
Maybe that’s because he is not really a Republican.
It was probably first among Democrats running as Republicans.

MB4 on November 14, 2007 at 8:18 PM

I think people already know where Rudy stands on the issues. Unlike the Queen of Flip Flop Hillary Clinton.

SoulGlo on November 14, 2007 at 8:31 PM

Hey guys, I have a wife, 4 kids, and several other friends who are constantly on the net and only two of us are hooked up with the politics. The internet is mostly about porn and social networking and we cannot start overstating it’s influence over regular folks.

BTW, I love this pic of Rudy. He looks like he’s saying “OY VAY!!”.

csdeven on November 14, 2007 at 8:37 PM

More proof that Rudy is the Elite’s candidate, not the peoples.

DwnSouthJukin on November 14, 2007 at 8:45 PM

More proof that Rudy is the Elite’s candidate, not the peoples.

Yeah, I hear elites hate the web.

Slublog on November 14, 2007 at 8:50 PM

He was never my candidate no matter how my much my mother has tried to sell him to myself and my siblings.

My brother hates him, but we always believed the Religious Right would take him out, not Judy Regan.

AprilOrit on November 14, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Can someone please define “Elite” as it is used in this situation, please. The only time I’ve been “elite” is when I was serving with the Marines. It’d be nice to know that I am truly “elite” once more.

MikeZero on November 14, 2007 at 8:58 PM

Well I think it is pretty safe to say that none of us here are part or the elite. If we were we would be on some reality TV show or at a party with celebs in Hollywood or at a dinner party with politicians or lobbyists in Georgetown or something like that.

MB4 on November 14, 2007 at 9:10 PM

So what?

This is a ‘post about nothing’

Rudy beats the pants off The Pantsuit, and becomes POTUS

end of story

Janos Hunyadi on November 14, 2007 at 9:15 PM

BTW, I love this pic of Rudy. He looks like he’s saying “OY VAY!!”.

Not disagreeing that the pic is provocative, but I want to ask about its context. If it is from a 9-11 era memorial where he is truly overwrought, as I suspect it could possibly be, I don’t think it is fair game to use it.

All the candidates have goof pictures, and they are all funny, as long as they are simply funny expressions caught in candid moments. If they are actually expressions of extreme emotion caught in extreme circumstances, they are no longer funny. And that goes for anyone, not just Rudy - it isn’t about him. Can someone tell me where it is from?

drunyan8315 on November 14, 2007 at 9:29 PM

Buy Danish said:

Could it have something to do with the fact that people know where Rudy stands on the issues (or at least think they do) so there’s less of a need to go to his website?

Exactly my thought. We’ve all seen and remember his leadership in action, in an extreme situation. What could possibly be gleaned from his website that the MSM or reading blogs won’t tell us?

notta_dhimmi on November 14, 2007 at 9:29 PM

Rudy beats the pants off The Pantsuit, and becomes POTUS

end of story

Janos Hunyadi on November 14, 2007 at 9:15 PM

This is the elitist view. In the face of evidence to the contrary - it’s all lies because . . . well, just because ‘we’ (the elites) are in the know.

The reason I don’t have a problem casting aspersions at Rudy and his campaign is that I know I won’t have to worry about him being POTUS. Because as fervently as you believe it is inevitable, I believe just as fervently it will never happen. He may be the nomination (which is still highly in doubt), but he’ll never beat the Clinton machine - she’ll run to his right on guns, WOT, illegals immigration, even socialized medicine, and they’ll be tied on abortion.

He’s not a ‘come from behind’ kind of guy. His only argument for why he would be a good president is that he’s the front-runner who is not Hillary. He won’t energize the R base, and he’ll invite a 3rd party candidate. . . but he won’t win the POTUS.

ThackerAgency on November 14, 2007 at 9:37 PM

We’ve all seen and remember his leadership in action, in an extreme situation. What could possibly be gleaned from his website that the MSM or reading blogs won’t tell us?

notta_dhimmi on November 14, 2007 at 9:29 PM

That ‘leadership’ is still in question and Hillary will exploit his decisions the entire campaign. The internet is about distributing information. A presidential campaign is about ‘getting your message out’. Rudy’s message is ‘look at the polls, I’m the front-runner’. I guess you are right, you don’t need a website for just that point.

He’s got enough money and people working for him to have a decent website with plenty of traffic. It would only take leadership to make it happen.

ThackerAgency on November 14, 2007 at 9:40 PM

While I’m at it, I’ll mention that I think it is a bit below the belt to use a trick of perspective or an instant out of an unrelated movement to give a completely false impression of what the subject of the photo was doing. I am thinking of:
1) The Bush “Seig Heil” hand salute which was merely a carefully-selected frame from a normal hand-wave, and
2) The Rove “thumbing the nose” picture which used foreshortened perspective to give the impression that his hand was at his nose, when it was again a normal hand-wave gesture.

I appreciate that there is a fine line here - parody is fair comment - but using photographic techniques to simulate someone acting in a disprespectful or grotesquely hateful manner is not parody - in is a smear. I think a naieve viewer could easily assume either of these photos I have cited was “true”.

This is also related to recent non-photographic incidents where a small amount of “parody” was inserted into a larger amount of hateful statements contained in pamphlets about a certain group’s objectives and beliefs. The presence of a few obviously silly and bombastic statements was used as cover to excuse the many more truly hateful ones that were seriously intended. This is simply dishonest. Parody and sarcasm are valid forms of commentary, but they should be openly used, not as false flags for pretending your are not slandering someone, when you are.

drunyan8315 on November 14, 2007 at 9:49 PM

It looks terrible for Fred.
He keeps targetting the older segments of the population. Everyone knows how good these people are with the internet… [/sarc off]

AlexB on November 14, 2007 at 9:51 PM

Rudy’s message is ‘look at the polls, I’m the front-runner’.
ThackerAgency on November 14, 2007 at 9:40 PM

Come on TA, that is unadulterated BS. It’s impossible to have a fruitful discussion when people just make things up out of whole cloth.

Buy Danish on November 14, 2007 at 9:53 PM

The reason Rudy’s site doesn’t get any visits is because it is terrible :)

I volunteered this week for a Rudy phone bank (God I hate those things) asking questions of registered Republicans in the county where I live in Delaware. One of the questions was something like:

Who is your first choice for the Republican nomination for President?

Although not scientific, 85-90% of people who would actually speak to me said Rudy was their first choice. I would say this was about 60 people. Only one person said Mitt, two said McCain and no one said Fred.

Just a reminder that internet traffic isn’t everything.

Cheers,

Donna

ukgoods on November 14, 2007 at 10:04 PM

This is the elitist view. In the face of evidence to the contrary - it’s all lies because . . . well, just because ‘we’ (the elites) are in the know.

I’m still waiting for the definition of “elites” when used in this context. Anyone? MB4’s implied definitions (reality show? Really?) just didn’t do it for me.

MikeZero on November 14, 2007 at 10:42 PM

Yeah, Ron Paul wins internet polls, too.

amerpundit on November 14, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Not disagreeing that the pic is provocative, but I want to ask about its context. If it is from a 9-11 era memorial where he is truly overwrought, as I suspect it could possibly be, I don’t think it is fair game to use it.

The picture is from some manufactured drama-rama that he caused up here, there were many. He attacked the cab drivers, the hot dog cart vendor, people having pets in city run buildings, he hates animals, especiallly dogs and cats.

You name it, he picked it. He’s loves a good fight and then some. Most New Yorkers would not vote for him, except my parent’s crowd, which is very elite.

He is the candidate of the elites for sure. If you are upper middle class and elite you should vote for him. He is not the candidate of the people at all. And if you believe he is or might be, you need to rethink your opinion/position.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 12:14 AM

Yes he cleaned up New York but if you really visit the statistics from that time, crime was decreasing in other places besides here.

His 911 schpiel and the same story over and over about Rudy - Crime Fighter Extraordinaire is getting as tired as the magic question - do you want to win in Iraq?

Good God, if Republicans expect to win they need to dust off their brains and come up with something better than calling Shillary a bitch and toasting Rudy’s superhero days in a cape and tights keeping Metropolis safe.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 12:22 AM

People go to websites to learn more about a subject. We know Giuliani, and we’re content with him, so no need to go to his website.

Noone knows what the frig Shilary stands for, and Paul is just a wacko, so there you have it.

Vincenzo on November 15, 2007 at 12:40 AM

That settles it…a Ron Paul/Mitt Romney ticket.

right2bright on November 15, 2007 at 12:58 AM

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 12:22 AM

Re Rudy: The unions hated him, the special interests hated him, big business hated him, mobsters hated him, hookers hated him, thieves hated him, any politician who has all of those special interest groups hating him, did something right.
Do you want a candidate who is supported by the teachers union?
How about supporting a candidate that is heavily supported by the company that screwed up the Big Dig? Gee, I wonder why Bechtel think so highly of Mitt?
Rudy would have kicked Bechtel’s ass, and not pay them an extra $294,000,000 for being a couple of billion over cost. But at least Mitt is loyal to his supporters.

right2bright on November 15, 2007 at 1:04 AM

Re Rudy: The unions hated him, the special interests hated him, big business hated him, mobsters hated him, hookers hated him, thieves hated him, any politician who has all of those special interest groups hating him, did something right.

Do you live here? Are you a New Yorker??

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 1:09 AM

Everyday run of the mill God fearing people hated him as well, so what’s your point?

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 1:12 AM

And the fact that next to none of the bloggers on The Right are covering Judy Regan’s lawsuit is deafening.

Is everyone in the tank for Rudy and Fox News including all of the bloggers as well?

At least Mitt and John McCain have commented on it.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 2:28 AM

Do you live here? Are you a New Yorker??

Elitist.

MikeZero on November 15, 2007 at 9:48 AM

Elitist.

You forgot to mention Jew Princess….

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 11:22 AM

Are you hitting on me?

MikeZero on November 15, 2007 at 11:38 AM

Re Rudy: The unions hated him, the special interests hated him, big business hated him, mobsters hated him, hookers hated him, thieves hated him, any politician who has all of those special interest groups hating him, did something right.

Do you live here? Are you a New Yorker??

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 1:09 AM

I lived in NYC, Hoboken and Jersey City for 21 years starting in 1979.

I remember the cesspool that the city was BEFORE Rudy. He changed everything.

ukgoods on November 15, 2007 at 12:58 PM

I remember the cesspool that the city was BEFORE Rudy. He changed everything.

Some things he did were great while others were not so much. He completely undermined the middle class, which is fine for many here - and I include my dear parents in this many - remember NYC is a Country Club atmosphere, coops like to reject people merely based on the color of their socks. He was instrumental in driving the middle class from the city in droves, he amended many of the rent stabilization laws regarding housing in favor of the landlords and allowed them to destablize apts piece-mil and in many cases illegally. The DHCR to this day have their hands full with the fallout from what he and Joe Bruno did.

Most of the people here are correct in assuming he is an elitist, he knows nothing about the regular blue collar family living in Peau-dunk America, and I say that affectionately with a french spelling.

You people think he is going to go to bat for the little guy, well he’s not, so keep drinking from from his kool-aid fountain, you have no idea, you are punch drunk on his sauce obviously.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Somebody didn’t get enough hugs from Mommy and Daddy.

MikeZero on November 15, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Somebody didn’t get enough hugs from Mommy and Daddy.

Are you propositioning me? You better take a number and get behind my man in Cali - DorianGray.

I can assure you I had more than enough love, my parents spent more on my bas mitzvah than most people spent on a house in other parts of America at that time.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 4:28 PM

And my father paid the downpayment on my coop, so I feel beyond loved dahling.

And I was approved mainly because I am my father’s daughter, I live in a snooty building that requires 50% down and no subletting.

AprilOrit on November 15, 2007 at 4:35 PM


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