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Reid to Bush: Start withdrawing troops or else

posted at 5:31 pm on November 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Whatevs, buddy. 0 for 40 this week, 0 for 41 soon enough.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that Democrats won’t approve more money for the Iraq war this year unless President Bush agrees to begin bringing troops home.

By the end of the week, the House and Senate planned to vote on a $50 billion measure for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bill would require Bush to initiate troop withdrawals immediately with the goal of ending combat by December 2008…

If Democrats refuse to send Bush the $50 billion, the military would have to drain its annual budget to keep the wars afloat. Last week, Congress approved a $471 billion budget for the military that pays mostly for non-war related projects, such as depot maintenance and weapons development.

The tactic stops short of blocking money outright from being used on the war, an approach that has divided Democrats and fueled Republican criticism that Democrats are eager to abandon the troops. But forcing the Pentagon into a painful budget dance to pay for the wars spares Democrats from having to write a blank check on the unpopular war.

If the left wasn’t quite so heavily invested in defeat this would be an easy one to play. For starters, instead of the constant “it’s not working it’s not working it’s not working” refrain, they could point to stories like this and take a “declare victory and go home” approach. Short and sweet: IEDs are down, Al Qaeda in Iraq’s been neutralized, the curfew’s being lifted in Baghdad, Anbar is almost totally under tribal control. Let’s get out before we jinx it. As it is, they can’t take that line for the simple reason that it admits progress, and there can be no progress in Iraq ever, under any circumstances, lest the stake driven through the heart of the Bush doctrine come loose and the body rise from its tomb. Meanwhile, the shrewd thing to do between now and the election would be to work with Bush to get him the funds he needs and get a few basic concessions in return, like a nonbinding timetable. That lets Reid and Pelosi have it both ways. If things continue to improve, they get to take some of the credit at election time for not having quit on the troops. If things go south, they get to disclaim most of the responsibility by saying they gave the military every last chance but ultimately just didn’t have the votes to pull the plug the way they wanted to, which is why Americans need to go to the polls and give them great big congressional majorities this time etc etc. That’s what they’ll probably end up doing in practice, although there’ll have to be plenty of theatrical anguished shirt-rending in the meantime to please their base, which is disaffected but isn’t going anywhere when push comes to shove next November.

It’s a testament to how much Bush believes in the war that he’s not seizing the opportunity to agree to a timetable. It’d be easy to do, just the opposite of the Democratic approach: declare victory, announce that the Iraqis are ready to take over, and institute a non-binding schedule for withdrawal. It’d help the GOP a lot, too, by blunting some of the public focus on the war. (Which is already way down since January.) But as another Bush once said: not gonna do it.


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For allegedly being the smartest people among us, Dem’s sure are dumb.

Vanceone on November 13, 2007 at 5:34 PM

Just this guy just sit around thinking of new ways to undermine our troops, cut off our chance at attaining a well deserved peace and democracy in the Middle East, while making us look like quitters to the rest of the world?

amend2 on November 13, 2007 at 5:38 PM

A1 pansy.

roninacreage on November 13, 2007 at 5:39 PM

TWERP

400lb Gorilla on November 13, 2007 at 5:40 PM

For allegedly being the smartest people among us, Dem’s sure are dumb.

Vanceone on November 13, 2007 at 5:34 PM

Please. There is no way the people in congress are the ’smartest people among us’. AP has nailed this one , the dems are so invested in defeat they have no reasoning.

Wade on November 13, 2007 at 5:41 PM

Its like the Democrats have no ability to alter their strategy or think outside their own nutroots planned world view.

Damn that’s lovely, he just keeps handing both the momentum and his future senate seat, to the Republicans

Defector01 on November 13, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Is our senators learning?

Apparently not.

thirteen28 on November 13, 2007 at 5:45 PM

If the dems feet had been held to the fire and made to answer for defunding Viet Nam and blood on their hands for the millions slaughtered when we were forced by congress to pull out, then none of this foolishness would be happening today. This is what happens when the republicans do not lead and make the dems responsible for their actions.

Wade on November 13, 2007 at 5:46 PM

Harry Reid is bad for National Security, Nevadans must get give him the Tom Dashell treatment.

StuLongIsland on November 13, 2007 at 5:46 PM

YOu’d think that now the “surge” is obviously working they’d be smart enough (as politicians – hm) to just let that agenda go.

amend2 on November 13, 2007 at 5:47 PM

Does this count toward troop withdrawal?

JammieWearingFool on November 13, 2007 at 5:48 PM

hehe…loser.

tickleddragon on November 13, 2007 at 5:50 PM

They apparently are that desperate to have Bush wrap it all up in a neat little package before the people have to decide who inherits the job of Commander in Chief.

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 5:54 PM

I don’t want to really put myself in his shoes, but is it possible our erstwhile Senate Majority Leader thinks that, somehow, since we can overturn one VETO, we can overturn all the rest of them now?

He’s such a moron! No, he’s a walking cadaverous idiosyncratic puddle of bat guano.

Tennman on November 13, 2007 at 5:54 PM

What a loser. Harry Reid has to be one of the worst senators of all time.

CP on November 13, 2007 at 5:57 PM

Reid to Bush: Start withdrawing troops or else

Or else what, Dingy? The dog gets it?

steveegg on November 13, 2007 at 6:02 PM

somebody should explain to Harry Reid or at least the American people {who I believe would have a whole different view of the war if they knew the whole story} You don’t cut and run when your winning you re-enforce and push the attack until you achieve complete victory .
We didn’t go into Iraq for oil we went into Iraq to finish a job long over due and to surround our main target Iran.

Mojack420 on November 13, 2007 at 6:03 PM

Well said AP, well said. You should be a D strategist. At least then I might not question their patriotism at such a regular clip. As it stands, I not only question their patriotism, I think they are downright anti-American.

And I do agree that this is an opportunity for Bush to come out a winner as well. He can declare victory and withdraw troops back to pre-surge levels and come out smelling like a rose without having bended one inch to the defeatocrats.

Give me an L – O – S – E – R for the D’s.

ThackerAgency on November 13, 2007 at 6:15 PM

Does this count toward troop withdrawal?

JammieWearingFool on November 13, 2007 at 5:48 PM

I was thinking the same thing. You just know Reid will take credit for it.

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GT on November 13, 2007 at 6:19 PM

You would be angry too if you never made it to school with your lunch money intact.

400lb Gorilla on November 13, 2007 at 6:28 PM

Hurry! Hurry! Retreat before we win.

He is so deeply invested in defeat, he can’t stand all the good reports he’s hearing out of Iraq.

Ya really got to be an America hating fool to be in that mindset

TheSitRep on November 13, 2007 at 6:30 PM

Only one word comes to mind whenever I see that picture of the Reaper – Schadenfreude.

Entelechy on November 13, 2007 at 6:30 PM

One timidly tentative step forward now, fifty galloping steps in ‘redeployment’ later.

Dusty on November 13, 2007 at 6:34 PM

Well if someone is pulling back some troops already…He is a yellow bastard, trying to take credit for a military action…treason.

tomas on November 13, 2007 at 6:38 PM

To whom is this Reid we speak of?

right2bright on November 13, 2007 at 7:18 PM

But as another Bush once said: not gonna do it.

Of course not. Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture.

packsoldier on November 13, 2007 at 7:22 PM

Reid is loosing his investment in defeat.

Kini on November 13, 2007 at 7:26 PM

Reid is the persona of the definition of insanity: continually repeating the same action but expecting to get a different result.

Ain’t gonna happen.

Mallard T. Drake on November 13, 2007 at 7:43 PM

How long till Websters purs Reid’s picture next to the word loser?

Gatordoug on November 13, 2007 at 7:44 PM

You guys need the King of Spain in your senate house.

BL@KBIRD on November 13, 2007 at 9:31 PM

He’s such a joke… seriously.

AlexB on November 14, 2007 at 12:26 AM

General Reid’s surrender hasn’t gone well at all, I mean with us winning and everything.

I’m in Nevada but don’t blame me, I voted for Ziser his opponent.

Mojave Mark on November 14, 2007 at 1:28 AM

Reid can (and I predict will) be overridden by the Senate. And the President has two things going for him that Reid can’t touch:

1: He has the “bully pulpit” to connect with all Americans. A televised speech where Bush states after watching this clip That Reid and the Democrts are betraying the troops.

2: He can use his executive power punish the state of Nevada and blame it on Reid. Withhold “disaster area” designation, for example. Call up all Nevada National Guardsmen for duty in Iraq. ALL of them. Start closing military bases. Order EPA and OSHA and the IRS to begin investigating and auditing his campaign contributors — and make sure they know why.

There are all sorts of things that the President, the Chief Executive of the United States of America (and the most powerful man in the world) can do to undermine Reid. From the petty (refusing him entry to the White House and placing him on the no-fly list), to the sublime (grounding his USAF transports) to the just plain brutal (ordering the Justice Department to investigate Reid’s family’s businesses, including his land transfers.

This is a pissing contest that Reid will lose.

georgej on November 14, 2007 at 1:48 AM

OOOoooooooo !! I’m shaking in my boots.

oldelpasoan on November 14, 2007 at 8:23 AM

Reid looks just like “Walter” (the puppet) to me, and I don’t take him nearly as seriously.

thebookkeeper on November 14, 2007 at 9:20 AM

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