Iranian MP to Brits: Islam requires capital punishment for gays

posted at 11:05 am on November 13, 2007 by Allahpundit

Like the man said, there are no gays in Iran. Now you know why.

Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both, an Iranian leader told British MPs during a private meeting at a peace conference, The Times has learnt…

Minutes taken by an official describe a meeting between British and Iranian MPs at the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a peace body, in May. When the Britons raised the hangings of Asqari and Marhouni, the leader of the Iranian delegation, Mr Yahyavi, a member of his parliament’s energy committee, was unflinching. He “explained that according to Islam gays and lesbianism were not permitted”, the record states. “He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.”

This isn’t the first time a prominent Iranian has raised this subject before a western audience, but unlike our own bien pensants, the Brits at least spoke up against it. Follow the link to the Times of London story and see for yourself what Islamic justice mandated for a woman made pregnant by her own brother. It’s all part of the love, peace, justice, dignity, friendship, laughter, prosperity, and flowers ethos that useful idiots so admire in Ahmadinejad when he lies to their faces each year at the UN.


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He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.

The “keep it hidden” and “It’s not natural” attitude is consistent with many Americans’ opinions.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:10 AM

DUH.

People laughed off Dinner Jacket’s endearing little joke at Columbia. Now they have it right in their face.

He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem,

…except in Islam there is little privacy for those others disapprove of. In other words, anything at all gets you killed.

MadisonConservative on November 13, 2007 at 11:14 AM

MadisonConservative on November 13, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Yea, reminds me of the worlds reaction to Mein Kampf. Right there in your face for the entire world to see, yet somehow ignored as if it didn’t exist.

doriangrey on November 13, 2007 at 11:17 AM

Does this mean I should stop going to the Queers for Palestine meeting? Wouldn’t that make me a racist?

thuja on November 13, 2007 at 11:22 AM

The “keep it hidden” and “It’s not natural” attitude is consistent with many Americans’ opinions.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:10 AM

Butthe US doesn’t institute the death penalty if its made public.

William Amos on November 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM

But the US doesn’t institute the death penalty if its made public.

They are brutal and backward people.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:26 AM

The “keep it hidden” and “It’s not natural” attitude is consistent with many Americans’ opinions.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:10 AM

True, there are lots of Americans who express that, but the “those in overt activity should be executed” is way over the top even for the Pat Robertson crowd. They are far from equivalent positions. I know several fundamentalist Christians who are vigorously opposed to homosexuality, however, their churches teach them to help heal and convert homosexuals to heterosexuality by bringing them to God through their faith, not execute them. While I disagree with that perspective, seeing homosexuals as sinners who just need to be redeemed by God is a whole lot different than seeing homosexuals as abominations who should be executed.

deepdiver on November 13, 2007 at 11:29 AM

Call for destruction of Israel (Check)
Call for destruction of America (Check)
Call for oppression of women who show skin in public (check)
Call for nuclear weapons for ‘power’ (Check)
Call against Bush (Check)

Call against homosexuals (Oh NO HE DI’NT) What an outrage! He is causing depression of young homosexuals to the point of suicide. He is inciting hatred against homosexuals and should be prosecuted for a HATE CRIME! He’s worse than. . . Jerry Falwell! THE HORROR!

ThackerAgency on November 13, 2007 at 11:40 AM

When are these homosexuals going to realize that their behavior is Islamophobic?

Jimmy the Dhimmi on November 13, 2007 at 11:41 AM

I’m not particularly fond of any form of Public Display of Affection – gay or not.

ThackerAgency on November 13, 2007 at 11:42 AM

up until the late 70′s un Britain it was a criminal offence to be a homosexual unless “behind closed doors” (parenthasis because that was the terminology in the statute)

zane on November 13, 2007 at 11:43 AM

Call against homosexuals (Oh NO HE DI’NT) What an outrage

The trade sanctions and foreign aid in the region is primarily based on “Call for destruction of Israel” and “Call for destruction of America”. Not so much for making sure the Islamic nations develop more modern attitudes toward women or gays.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM

And still the gay community thinks Bush is more of a threat than DinnerJacket.

go figure.

Always Right on November 13, 2007 at 11:46 AM

But the attitude of the American public is akin to ‘Queers for Palestine’ who don’t care about anything but the plight of the homosexual.

I know I know, it ain’t easy being gay is it? It’s just another feather in your hat.

Do ‘Queers for Palestine’ care about Israel?

ThackerAgency on November 13, 2007 at 11:47 AM

The “keep it hidden” and “It’s not natural” attitude is consistent with many Americans’ opinions.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:10 AM

Any similarities with America end right there. Otherwise, the ChiCom execution bus would still be rolling through Folsom Street.

Kid from Brooklyn on November 13, 2007 at 11:47 AM

The politically correct in Britain will make sure that no one dares take a single step toward preventing the spread of these ideas inside Britain. That would be Islamophobic.

I’m gonna pop over to islamispeace.org.uk; I’m certain they’ve updated their site to address these concerns.

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 11:50 AM

Kossacks aren’t going to like this one bit.

SoulGlo on November 13, 2007 at 11:51 AM

Any similarities with America end right there.

Pretty much. Sharia law is a primitive way to run a country.

Some read the Bible as condemn practicing homosexuals to hell. As long as those are private religious beliefs and aren’t used as a basis for hostility to gays or a foundation for writing statutes, then great.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 11:56 AM

OK, I’m back after a bit of research at islamispeace.org.uk:

Your search – homosexual site:islamispeace.org.uk – did not match any documents.

Your search – gay site:islamispeace.org.uk – did not match any documents.

Your search – same-sex site:islamispeace.org.uk – did not match any documents.

Dinner Jacket was right; there are no homosexuals. Problem solved.

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 11:59 AM

AS far as I know the only thing that evangelicals are against is making gay marrage the same as regular marrage. That and the issue of weather gays get into heaven.

Neither is a real strong anti gay activity.

William Amos on November 13, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Some peace conference. We need more dialog with this D-bag

400lb Gorilla on November 13, 2007 at 12:01 PM

That and the issue of weather gays get into heaven.

I’m sure that the idea of heaven for evangelicals and for a most gays is very different. At least decor and music is very different. If they both get into heaven God would have to have to offer them separate neighborhoods.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 12:03 PM

Embrace Islam, all of you liberals. This is the religion as dangerous as Christianity.
These are two things Hollywood promotes…Islam, and the gay lifestyles…what am I missing?

right2bright on November 13, 2007 at 12:04 PM

That and the issue of weather gays get into heaven.

Enough Anal Lube™ and you can get into anything.

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 12:06 PM

I’m sure that the idea of heaven for evangelicals and for a most gays is very different. At least decor and music is very different. If they both get into heaven God would have to have to offer them separate neighborhoods.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 12:03 PM

Again that gets down to a person’s own personal religeous belief. Unless you want to force your beliefs on them and say they have to accept gays into their religeous beliefs.

So I have managed to move you from “Christians in the US act like Islamics in Iran” all the way to “Boy those meanie Christians have a horrible veiw of heaven”

I call that progress.

William Amos on November 13, 2007 at 12:07 PM

ThackerAgency on November 13, 2007 at 11:42 AM

Two women, depending on how they look, doesn’t bother me.

jdkchem on November 13, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Yep, no gays here…
But whatever you do, JUST DON’T TORTURE THEM!!!!!!

shooter on November 13, 2007 at 12:18 PM

weather gays

The ones who tell you if it will rain, snow, etc.?

jdkchem on November 13, 2007 at 12:19 PM

Kossacks aren’t going to like this one bit.

SoulGlo on November 13, 2007 at 11:51 AM

They will ignore it, just as they always ignore anything inconvenient to their world view.

doriangrey on November 13, 2007 at 12:19 PM

weather gays

Willard Scott?

jdkchem on November 13, 2007 at 12:20 PM

my quote was self deleted I guess….

Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both,

So to our left of the aisle bunch, what say YOU?
.
Hello???

shooter on November 13, 2007 at 12:20 PM

” ‘Queers for Palestine’ founder to start first chapter of ‘Queers for Ahmadinejad’… “

eeyore on November 13, 2007 at 12:23 PM

So to our left of the aisle bunch, what say YOU?

Christians R just as bad -
U still do not understand
U R not ready

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 12:25 PM

The “keep it hidden” and “It’s not natural” attitude is consistent with many Americans’ opinions.

Oh yes, it’s the same here in the USA, and that’s why Marines patrol the streets of SF and unload their weapons at assless chapped homosexuals with their wiener in one hand and a Miller beer in the other.

Get a reality check.

Hening on November 13, 2007 at 12:25 PM

Does this mean I should stop going to the Queers for Palestine meeting? Wouldn’t that make me a racist?

thuja on November 13, 2007 at 11:22 AM

I thought those meetings disbanded when the founder and prolific child molester Yassar Arafat died of AIDS.

Hollowpoint on November 13, 2007 at 12:31 PM

So I have managed to move you from “Christians in the US act like Islamics in Iran” all the way to “Boy those meanie Christians have a horrible veiw of heaven”

I didn’t have the position you ascribe to me. Also, my comment on views of heaven was just an aside. The descriptions of heaven I’ve heard are fairly abstract, though certainly not horrible–kind of like David Byrne’s line “Heaven is the place where nothing ever happens”.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Oh yes, it’s the same here in the USA, and that’s why Marines patrol the streets of SF and unload their weapons at assless chapped homosexuals with their wiener in one hand and a Miller beer in the other.

You have invented a straw man to disagree with.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Any similarities with America end right there. Otherwise, the ChiCom execution bus would still be rolling through Folsom Street.

Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.

Ryan Gandy on November 13, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Iranian chop-talk.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on November 13, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Breeders

Kini on November 13, 2007 at 12:48 PM

And still the gay community thinks Bush is more of a threat than DinnerJacket.

go figure.

Always Right on November 13, 2007 at 11:46 AM

That’s why I’m a gay guy but not part of that crappy “gay community”. They’re crazy. I have to make special effort to tell people that I’m not like them. Anyone who isn’t a stupid psycho-pussy knows that Islam is a much greater threat to gays than Christianity or Bush.

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 12:53 PM

Enough Anal Lube™ and you can get into anything.

saint kansas on November 13, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Saint Kansas wins as the Christian most likely to bring up the particulars of gay anal sex!

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 12:55 PM

Ahmedinejad: now

there’s

a gay ol’ feller!

AlexB on November 13, 2007 at 12:58 PM

oops — wrong tag!

i meant to say:

Ahmedinejad: now there’s a gay ol’ feller!

AlexB on November 13, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Again that gets down to a person’s own personal religeous belief. Unless you want to force your beliefs on them and say they have to accept gays into their religeous beliefs.

No desire to trample on someone’s spiritual beliefs if they don’t try to use those beliefs to limit the rights of others. Both the establishment and free exercise clauses are important.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Gonna sit this out and let the lib-gays and the Muslims work this out for themselves.

JiangxiDad on November 13, 2007 at 1:07 PM

No desire to trample on someone’s spiritual beliefs if they don’t try to use those beliefs to limit the rights of others. Both the establishment and free exercise clauses are important.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Well isnt this Irony.

What “rights” are being limited ? All evangelicals ask is that gay marrage not be treated like straight marrage. Again hardly a “With holding of right(s).

And I love now how you want to use the Constitution to limit religeous beliefs because they disagree with your own. That is what liberals do they whine that their rights are violated and that they need to enforce stronger laws to keep religeon out of society.

Honestly can you see the silliness of your whole veiw ?

William Amos on November 13, 2007 at 1:13 PM

If nothing else, this should show the folly of allying with a group or individual who has a similar dislike in one area even though the rest of the agenda is insane.

You’d think at some point, the overriding dislike of Bush would eventually give way to some kind of survival instinct.

That’s why I’m a gay guy but not part of that crappy “gay community”. They’re crazy. I have to make special effort to tell people that I’m not like them.

Loundry

You had better be a good dresser with a penchant for interior design. Those stereotypes exist for a reason, you know.

Krydor on November 13, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Ahmedinegay – I love my closet
I wish my brother jihad were here.

Kini on November 13, 2007 at 1:16 PM

And I love now how you want to use the Constitution to limit religeous beliefs because they disagree with your own. That is what liberals do they whine that their rights are violated and that they need to enforce stronger laws to keep religeon out of society.

Big leap on your part. Can you give an example of where I’ve argued for a limitation on private religious beliefs?

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 1:25 PM

Oh yes, it’s the same here in the USA, and that’s why Marines patrol the streets of SF and unload their weapons at assless chapped homosexuals with their wiener in one hand and a Miller beer in the other.

You have invented a straw man to disagree with.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 12:36 PM

I am calling out the ridiculous attempt to draw a parallel between the treatment of homosexuals in Iran and what homosexuals flaunt in public here, in front of children, and get away with.

If one homosexual in the USA gets killed by drunken rednecks, every public school in the USA shows a movie about it, in Iran they hang them in public after being tortured without a whimper from the homosexual community in this country.

Hening on November 13, 2007 at 1:50 PM

I am calling out the ridiculous attempt to draw a parallel between the treatment of homosexuals in Iran and what homosexuals flaunt in public here, in front of children, and get away with.

If you are saying that homosexuals should not flaunt publicly, and that there is no problem with it in private, that appears identical to part the quote that AP pulled at the top of this thread.

If you are saying that Iran and the United States treat homosexuals very differently. I agree.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 2:00 PM

You had better be a good dresser with a penchant for interior design. Those stereotypes exist for a reason, you know.

Krydor on November 13, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Every stereotype has some basis in truth. Since there is nothing about me that says “gay culture”, I resent all of those stereotypes that you seem eager to impose upon me.

What stereotypes are there about conservative Christians which also have basis in truth? Being a stupid, racist hick for instance? Are you familiar with the charming bumper sticker which reads “If it ain’t King James, it ain’t Bible!”?

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Loundry,

Relax, man. No harm intended. Didn’t expect you to take it that way.

Are you familiar with the charming bumper sticker which reads “If it ain’t King James, it ain’t Bible!”?

Nope. We’ve managed to keep that brand of Christianity at bay up here in Canuckistan.

Krydor on November 13, 2007 at 2:32 PM

Every stereotype has some basis in truth.
Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Now that will get you in trouble even though it is true.

saiga on November 13, 2007 at 2:36 PM

If you are saying that homosexuals should not flaunt publicly, and that there is no problem with it in private, that appears identical to part the quote that AP pulled at the top of this thread.

If you are saying that Iran and the United States treat homosexuals very differently. I agree.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Again, I am not able to draw a parallel between people hung in Iran for being reported as homosexuals while in the USA there are homosexual pride street parades, anti-Christian chic, corporate endorsements for homosexual events, homosexual celebrities talking about their lifestyle in the media, Gay alliance meetings in public schools, homosexual marriage and an entire pro-homosexual lobby, and you are going to equalize that fact because most people universally (not just in the USA) don’t want to watch men bumping ugly?

Every transgenedered, cross-dressing, homosexual, B&D exhibitionist should thank their vibrators that there is a Republican in the White House, and a strong military to protect them from Islam.

Hening on November 13, 2007 at 2:43 PM

and you are going to equalize that fact because most people universally (not just in the USA) don’t want to watch men bumping ugly?

Never attempted to “equalize” the two. You keep arguing with a straw man.

Most people, don’t want to watch other people “bump ugly” in public. The SF street festival you mentioned should have been constrained by local ordinances. I don’t follow SF city law and don’t think it is too interesting.

There is plenty of offensive public behavior with young straight people on spring break, but it doesn’t make for an argument that all straight sex is offensive.

Young, intoxicated, co-eds drinking too much, making out and grabbing each other in public is wrong…unless it’s a couple of really attractive young girls. That’s kinda hot…except for the whole gay thing.

dedalus on November 13, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Krydor,

Sorry for the harsh reaction. There are many, many gay men who do NOT buy into “gay culture”. When I first came out, I saw what “gay culture” was and you can probably imagine my severe disappointment as to what I had to “look forward to”. Every day I have to distance myself from those freaks. I utterly despise the “gay pride” parade, and few things repel me more quickly than that fake, faggy accent.

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Every transgenedered, cross-dressing, homosexual, B&D exhibitionist should thank their vibrators that there is a Republican in the White House, and a strong military to protect them from Islam.

Hening on November 13, 2007 at 2:43 PM

I am very thankful, but I suspect that you would sooner see me paralyzed and my eyes picked out by vultures than personally thanking one of our brave soldiers. It’s your “Christian love”, and all that.

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 3:52 PM

I am very thankful, but I suspect that you would sooner see me paralyzed and my eyes picked out by vultures than personally thanking one of our brave soldiers. It’s your “Christian love”, and all that.

Loundry on November 13, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Christian’s love the sinner, and hate the sin.

Thanking a soldier/sailor/Marine would be very much appreciated, especially in these times. This is the USA, where we protect all of our own.

Hening on November 13, 2007 at 4:19 PM