How about
When the Pharisees asked Christ, in Luke 17:20–21, when the Kingdom of God should come, he answered, “The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

It is all in your interpretation.
And, your betting would make you a loser.
The world is my church. I do not need a building to worship in.
And I am an avid reader of many spiritual tools, including the Holy Bible.
Again, it is within your interpretation.

Dean’s Prayer:

Our Society, who art in Washington, hallowed be thy bike-path.
Thy Taxes come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in our delusions.
Give us this day our welfare state.
Forgive us our fabrications, as we refuse to forgive those who we imagine lie against us.
And lead us not into rational thought, but deliver us from the Republicans. A-persons.

bridgetown on November 13, 2007 at 8:22 AM

Luke 16:19-31
Matthew 25:31-46
Revelation 20:12-15

You might want to start with those.

I’m betting its been a very long time since you read your Bible or went to church.

Howard Dean to Jews: We think everyone should get into Heaven! I want to see him try to insert this into the Party platform at next summer’s convention. Technorati tags: Howard Dean, Democratic Party, religion, politics…

Howard Dean says that everyone can go to Heaven. So there. In another statement likely to stir debate among the evangelical Christians his party is urgently trying to court, Dean also asserted “there are no bars to heaven for anybody,”……

Heaven and Hell are states of mind.

bridgetown on November 13, 2007 at 8:22 AM

No. Heaven and Hell is a great album!!!

Why did this numbnuts frame the issue in terms of the Republican versus Democratic Parties when he’s really making a point about Christian doctrine?

Short answer: because Dean’s knowledge of Biblical Christian doctrine is nearly non-existent. It appears to be mostly his own creation, not surprising for a liberal in La-La Land.

Beyond the sheer freakishness of his suggestion that the Party has a formal position on who qualifies for eternal salvation…

roflcopters

Jesus spoke to the LIVING, not to the Dead.

When specifically asked (Luke 13:23-30, read the WHOLE thing) He said “many” will be going to Hell, but also (in the next breath) said that people from “east, west, north and south” WOULD be entering Heaven (that is, many). So many will be in both places. He never gave numbers because the point of his answer was: don’t worry about how many exactly. Just strive to get in yourself because “you yourselves” aren’t guaranteed a place either.

Sorry for my crabbiness, but (1) I haven’t had coffee yet and more importantly (2) I’m sick of non-Catholic Christians assuming because I’m Catholic I don’t know my Bible, yet many of them don’t even know basic things about the Bible, or what Jesus said. That goes double for Dean, who if memory serves thought the book of Job was in the New Testament.

Two things disturb me about Howard Dean’s speech yesterday to Jewish leaders in which he said (specifically, in bold:)
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Rhetorical exit question: Why did this numbnuts frame the issue in terms of the Republican versus Democratic Parties when he’s really making a point about Christian doctrine? Might it have something to do with the left’s newfound interest in wooing religious voters?

Does anyone else think the Democrat party is like the Mafia?

They play all ends against the middle, lie like hell. scare the hell out of the rest, take care of family business and pick up the neatly wrapped box of cash on the way out.

No wonder the GOP is too afraid to take them on.

I think I’m gonna have to go with Jesus on this one.

Seriously dude. Not a good idea to speak for God. You don’t wanna take that ‘down’ elevator when you scream up the ghost.

On a side note … The Democrats laying down religious guidelines including but not limited to “who is qualified for eternal salvation” shows hypocrisy in at least three more ways that I can think of.

Dean also asserted “there are no bars to heaven for anybody

Who told him that?

Some makes it
Luke 13:28, “There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out

Some don’t
Matthew 13:41-42, “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

Does Dean have inside information?
Matthew 22:13
13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and[a] cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”

For some stupid reason I always assumed Dean was an atheist. That was crass. I apologize to atheists many of whom are rationalists. Anyone notice this:

no child or member of a football team ought to be able to cringe at the last line of a prayer before going onto the field – Dean

IF they are able to cringe will it be OK?

No Christian member of a football team should be able to cringe when they listen to Dean but they ARE able. Was that a miracle?