They don’t preserve very much of the original sound, and they distort it quite a bit in the name of increasing the bass power….

AprilOrit gets it.

I am NY born and bred, my parents know Rudy personally, they are supporting him, my mother is campaigning for him.

I’ve met him twice.

I do get it indeed.

Now that’s hilarious – anyone who believes the donkey dust about Rudy being a good Catholic needs to stop posting immediately. LOL

LOLOLOLOL

AprilOrit on November 9, 2007 at 7:21 PM

LOLOLOL

…his faith ain’t one of them because he is a cafeteria Catholic kind of along the lines of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy.

LOLOLOLOL

AprilOrit on November 9, 2007 at 7:49 PM

AprilOrit gets it.

Pero entonces no tiene la cabeza pegada hasta Rudolfo’s del a$no.

MB4,

I have a fine sense of humor. The problem is that you’re not funny, you’re just obnoxious.

If you ever had a sense of humor you lost it some time ago. If you are sure that you had one once, maybe you should put out an all-points-bulletin for it. It would have been very small, so someone may have found it but not be able to recognize it without a microscope.

If your extreme animus towards Rudy isn’t based on his Catholicism (something which occurred to me because of your Atheism) fine, I’ll take you at your word. I’m trying to figure out what the source is of your unreasonable attacks on him.

I have no extreme animus towards your hijo Rudolfo. How could you even think that it would be based on his Catholicism as he has less of it than I do. My “attacks” are not unreasonable at all. You just think that because you have a madre’s love for her hijo.

Yesterday you went to great lengths to post information about what a rotten guy he is, but you ignore similar information about Fred’s recent hiring fiasco.

I ignore lots of things. Come to think of it, I should be ignoring you.

You b*tch about Rudy’s immigration policies but say McCain is better, when he is no better at all and may be far worse.

That is not what I said, not about immigration. You seem to be intent on seeing what is not there. Except in the case of Rudolfo, then it is the other way around. I guess there is a certain balance there, I suppose.

In that light your complaints about Rudy make no sense.

Buy Danish on November 9, 2007 at 6:45 PM

You are in a greater state of denial than OJ’s jurors. Much greater.

…his faith ain’t one of them because he is a cafeteria Catholic kind of along the lines of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy.

LOLOLOLOL

If your extreme animus towards Rudy isn’t based on his Catholicism (something which occurred to me because of your Atheism) fine, I’ll take you at your word. I’m trying to figure out what the source is of your unreasonable attacks on him.

Now that’s hilarious – anyone who believes the donkey dust about Rudy being a good Catholic needs to stop posting immediately. LOL

Atheists fear not, believe me, there is a laundry list of reasons to attack Rudy beyond the size of infinite, his faith ain’t one of them though.

LOLOLOLOL

I have a fine sense of humor. The problem is that you’re not funny, you’re just obnoxious.

If your extreme animus towards Rudy isn’t based on his Catholicism (something which occurred to me because of your Atheism) fine, I’ll take you at your word. I’m trying to figure out what the source is of your unreasonable attacks on him.

Yesterday you went to great lengths to post information about what a rotten guy he is, but you ignore similar information about Fred’s recent hiring fiasco.

You b*tch about Rudy’s immigration policies but say McCain is better, when he is no better at all and may be far worse.

In that light your complaints about Rudy make no sense.

If Rudolfo gets the Republican party Presidential nomination, other than in name only, there will not, at the national level anyway, even be a Republican party anymore, just two democrat parties.

MB4 on November 9, 2007 at 12:39 PM

No, the true RINO’s will finally be exposed. {{{mirror}}}

don’t know whether or not this guy is guilty. And I understand that many false charges have been levied against people in the past.

Either way, I’ve come to the conclusion that most people are partial to their candidate. Your average voter is willing to overlook most violations by their candidate of choice. Rudy’s supporters are no different.

The Race Card on November 9, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Your comment almost sound like Rudy was the one doing the molesting. First off, Rudy did not molest anyone. Second, Placa was not convicted of anything and we have this thing called presumption of innocence. Third, the allegation was so stale when finally made that it was barred by the statute of limitations. Fourth, another student at the same time said 1) there was never any rumor whatsoever that Placa was doing that sort of thing; 2) the location where the accuser said the molestation took place was always a place of high traffic and would not have gone unnoticed; and 3) the accuser was friendly towards Placa and did not react consistent with someone who has been abused.

Given the nature of these unsubstantiated allegations it would be more of a scandal if Rudy had kicked a friend of 35 years to the curb over it.

Its not as if he borrowed a drug dealer’s jet or something.

I’m not worried though as I’ve got enough for both of us.

MB4 on November 9, 2007 at 12:43 PM

Endearing, and disarming.

You might not have, or acquire any “ilks”, but you are for sure an ilk of its own category; it’s a good thing.

Buy Danish is also a good person – quit attacking each other. Let’s fight to win together.

By the time one is in High School I’d expect the person to speak up, but perhaps that is unrealistic.

Your expectations have no bearing on how another human being deals with being abused, violated, assaulted, threatened and/or having their faith obliterated.

Women, men and children of all ages hide the abuse they have suffered. Not all victims are willing to out themselves. Others don’t know whom they can trust, especially if their sense of trust was destroyed by someone close to them.

You also go on to say how “helpful” it would be to hear from more students supporting Placa. Why?

I don’t know whether or not this guy is guilty. And I understand that many false charges have been levied against people in the past.

Either way, I’ve come to the conclusion that most people are partial to their candidate. Your average voter is willing to overlook most violations by their candidate of choice. Rudy’s supporters are no different.

Contrary to MB4’s asinine claim that I was drunk

Buy Danish on November 9, 2007 at 10:32 AM

You must be totally void of any sense of humor. How sad for you. I’m not worried though as I’ve got enough for both of us.

As other candidates drop out more will turn to Rudy than any other candidate. Barring a major scandal, that is going to be very difficult to overcome.

tommylotto on November 9, 2007 at 7:31 AM

If Rudolfo gets the Republican party Presidential nomination, other than in name only, there will not, at the national level anyway, even be a Republican party anymore, just two democrat parties.

It occurs to me that your unreasonable and very personal animus towards Rudy may derive from his Catholicism, and that story goes into great depth about how his education informed his views.

Buy Danish Rudy’s Madre on November 9, 2007 at 9:55 AM

I have no personal animus towards Rudy, I just see him for what he is, that’s all. And what he is does not stem from his Catholicism, what very little he has of it. Your analytical skills are much in need of improvement, pretty much across the board. BTW, you are doing a pi$$ poor job of defending Rudolfo, pi$$ poor.

Rudy was very hated by the liberal media in NYC and any number of smear articles can be dug up by MB4 and his ilk.

tommylotto on November 9, 2007 at 7:31 AM

1) The liberal media does not hate Rudolfo.
2) The articles are not smear articles. You are in a state of denial. Kind of like the OJ jurors.
3) I have no ilks. I don’t even know anyone who has any ilks.

Try to lower the level of venom being let loose around here, and remember we should all be on the same team in November ‘08.

Once the convention is held and the nominee is selected (I still predict no clear winner on the first ballot), let’s rally around the winner, regardless who he is, and defeat the socialist the democrats are bound to nominate.

Texas Nick 77 on November 9, 2007 at 4:58 AM

I’ll support you 100%, for all you said.

As other candidates drop out more will turn to Rudy than any other candidate. Barring a major scandal, that is going to be very difficult to overcome.

tommylotto on November 9, 2007 at 7:31 AM

Indeed. We agree.

Good morning. Sorry I didn’t have time to respond in depth last night. Contrary to MB4’s asinine claim that I was drunk, the fact is that I have to get up early in the morning to get my son off to school.

Of the two stories, the only one that has any legs is the Placa story. Rudy can hardly be responsible for the personal behavior of everyone he hired and there are no allegations that Rudy himself is corrupt.

In Placa’s case the link you provided does raise some troubling questions, although the failure on Giuliani’s part would be one of naive loyalty not misconduct on his own part.

Generally speaking when there are allegations of sexual misconduct I am very reluctant to condemn the accused without good evidence since it’s far too easy to make accusations without having anything to back them up. While many of these cases are legitimate there are an awful lot of false charges leveled too.

The one alleged abuse we have any details about involves a high school student (Tollner) which leaves me a bit wary since this is not a young child we’re talking about. Why would he have waited to make these charges? By the time one is in High School I’d expect the person to speak up, but perhaps that is unrealistic.

For what it’s worth, this story from ABC’s The Blotter is worth reading as it does give a statement from another student supporting Placa. It would be helpful to hear from more students like him if they are out there.

Later…

Water wet. Rudy is as Rudy does.

MB4 on November 8, 2007 at 9:11 PM

Did Rudy employ the jihadist Spencer Abraham as his campaign director and then lie about it? You know, like Fred did?

Priorities.

I never used any of those words. You drew those conclusions.

MB4 on November 8, 2007 at 11:53 PM

That was the whole point of the article you cut and pasted from!

MB4 on November 8, 2007 at 11:58 PM

Since my comments are coherent, for you to charge that I am drinking too much is a cheap smear tactic that reveals far more about you than about me.

In any case, thank you for providing links!

The New Republic story was quite interesting (although I disagree with some of its conclusions). It occurs to me that your unreasonable and very personal animus towards Rudy may derive from his Catholicism, and that story goes into great depth about how his education informed his views.

As for your claim that crime rates were reduced because the economy improved, that is hogwash. If you read the NR story you provided a link to you’d see that in addition to outlining the steps Rudy did to combat crime, they say:

Giuliani’s detractors would later say that the decline began under Dinkins, but that is misleading. The city’s murder rate reached an all-time high in 1990, then declined slightly over the next two years. But it was only after Giuliani took office that the crime rate declined precipitously–starting in 1994, when it fell by 12 percent. New York’s reduction in crime also far exceeded the national average–16 percent in the first half of 1995 compared to one percent nationally.

csdeven on November 9, 2007 at 7:45 AM

I’d rather be voting next year for either one of our candidates, but if this doesn’t sink Rudy and he does get the nomination, I’ll pull the ever for him, rather than HER.

Entelechy on November 8, 2007 at 11:59 PM

You know I love ya, babe!

I’m not sure about MB4, but I suspect his issue with Rudy is the same as mine is for Fred. When you are the lonely voice in the wilderness, you need to be the loudest.

What I do isn’t a manifestation of any hysteria, but rather a disgust with a candidate that was perceived as something that I see he is not. He was touted as the savior because of reasons that had no basis in his qualifications to be president. His acting roles? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that. And you know the rest. LOTS of people who support him ignore his negatives and believe that their beliefs are in line with what the general electorate thinks.

Rudy has the qualifications and the temperament for the job, but has a history that troubles many conservatives. Even those who strongly support him are bothered, but because of his perceived electability, they make a pragmatic decision. But with the emergence of Mitt, people are starting to think maybe Rudy’s electability isn’t such a huge deal compared to his downside. I think MB4 is that voice in the wilderness that is speaking the loudest so as to keep the message in the fore front.

Now the nexus between Rudy and Kerik was undeniably close. However, Rudy has admitted fault in not vetting Kerik more thoroughly. They were obviously very close and Rudy trusted him. It seems that Kerik betrayed that trust. So long as it is not shown that Rudy was not involved in any of these deals or knew about them as he was promoting Kerik, I think Rudy will be seen as the victim of a disloyal trusted friend.

A final thought, following Bradky’s link above, it appears that not only is Rudy the current front runner, but he is also the most popular second choice of the conservatives who did not make him their top pick. As other candidates drop out more will turn to Rudy than any other candidate. Barring a major scandal, that is going to be very difficult to overcome.