Bill Clinton lies about Max Cleland ad (again)

posted at 9:55 pm on November 7, 2007 by Bryan

It has become a staple of Democrat politics to the point of achieving bloody shirt status: The mean, evil Republicans compared wounded Vietnam vet Sen. Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein in a TV ad, thereby defeating him in 2002.

Bill Clinton serves up the latest iteration of that lie en route to defending Hillary’s debate gaffe for the umpteenth time.

When that scandalous Swift Boat ad was run against Senator Kerry. When there was an ad that defeated Max Cleland in Georgia, a man that left half his body in Vietnam. And a guy that led several departments … with Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden because he dared to vote against the president’s version of the Homeland Security bill…

So Max Cleland said, I didn’t go to Vietnam and leave one arm and two legs to come home and hold my job by stripping the job rights of 170,000 good, hardworking Americans. I don’t want to do it. So they put an ad on comparing him to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

Sweetness & Light has the ad. You can go watch it here. If that ad compares Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, I’ll eat my Hot Air hat with a side order of iPhone.

It does no such thing. Bill Clinton is, to the surprise of exactly no one on earth who’s been paying attention for the past 15 years, lying through his teeth.

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Fox has the video

Clinton

William Amos on November 7, 2007 at 9:59 PM

liar, liar, pants on fire.

right2bright on November 7, 2007 at 10:10 PM

Who else would try to extricate himself from a debacle he created with lying and negativity with more negativity while lying.

Speakup on November 7, 2007 at 10:14 PM

Fox has the video

Clinton

William Amos on November 7, 2007 at 9:59 PM

They video right after that was Megyn Kelly’s legs.

(whisper whisper)

What do you mean that wasn’t what it was about?!

- The Cat

MirCat on November 7, 2007 at 10:15 PM

And remember, Rudolfo did not want Bubba impeached.

MB4 on November 7, 2007 at 10:19 PM

I’ll eat my Hot Air hat with a side order of iPhone.

First Rosie and then the iphone snub? Keep it up Bryan, Allah is capable of much more than crashing the comments. :-)

csdeven on November 7, 2007 at 10:20 PM

But he means it when he says it! Don’t question his emotions!

SouthernGent on November 7, 2007 at 10:21 PM

“I did not have sex with that Max Cleland.”

Griz on November 7, 2007 at 10:21 PM

Q. What did Chelsea say when Hillary asked if she had sex yet?
A. “Not according to Dad.”
*
Q. What’s the difference between Hillary and Bill?
A. Hillary doesn’t get caught.
*
Q. What are the two worst things about Bill Clinton?
A. His face.
*
Q. How did Bill and Hillary Clinton meet?
A. They dated the same girl in high school.
*
Q. Bill and Hillary take a boat ride, the boat capsizes, who gets saved?
A. The United States of America!

MB4 on November 7, 2007 at 10:30 PM

MB4 on November 7, 2007 at 10:30 PM

Dam….you owe me, spit a mouthful of Stoli & tonic after the Chelsea question! It was worth it…..still laughin!!!

dmann on November 7, 2007 at 10:36 PM

I’m getting a little sick of Max Cleland talking about how he “left one arm and two legs in Vietnam”. It was his own fault. He dropped his own grenade.

SoulGlo on November 7, 2007 at 10:39 PM

I’m getting a little sick of Max Cleland talking about how he “left one arm and two legs in Vietnam”. It was his own fault. He dropped his own grenade.

SoulGlo on November 7, 2007 at 10:39 PM

He seems to have left his honor there as well.

91Veteran on November 7, 2007 at 10:44 PM

Is that the whole ad? I keep hearing (including today on NPR) that the ad morphs Cleland into BinLaden.

MayBee on November 7, 2007 at 10:45 PM

People, Clinton didn’t lie, he just bent the truth a bit.

But anyway, when you tell yourself this bent truth enough, you begin to believe it.

Thus the phrase, Get Bent.

Kini on November 7, 2007 at 10:48 PM

Get Bent.
Get Bill.
Kill Bill.
potato…..

shooter on November 7, 2007 at 10:54 PM

liar, liar, pants on fire.
right2bright on November 7, 2007 at 10:10 PM

Liar, liar, stained blue dress on fire.

csdeven on November 7, 2007 at 11:07 PM

Yup,the Clintons on parade as usual,someone should ask
Hillary if this is the handi-work of the Right Wing Conspiracy,and the media!——-it’s Liberal,move
along nothing to see here.

canopfor on November 7, 2007 at 11:09 PM

Liar,liar,stained blue dress on fire.
Csdeven on November 7,2007 at 11:07PM.

Csdeven:And the source of ignition,probably
a cigar.Hehe

canopfor on November 7, 2007 at 11:14 PM

Hypocrisy is defined by the fact that Max Cleland was sacrificing in Vietnam while Bill Clinton wasn’t inhaling pot at Oxford and using Max Cleland’s sacrifice for political gain by lying about an advertisement.

Speakup on November 7, 2007 at 11:19 PM

Those Clinton jokes/facts are Hillaryous…!

Many of my Lib-Dem acquaintances praise Republicans for almost always drumming bad eggs from the party and chastize the Dems for defending and rewarding THEIR bad apples…, but those aquaintances STILL vote for their Dem candidates every time. What gives…? The only thing that *I* can come up with is stupidity regarding the honest ones and dishonesty regarding the intelligent ones. What’s a guy to do…? They leave me no other choice.

Rugged Individual on November 7, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Bryan, Kos repeated this lie back in September:

Actually, Georgia Democrats are hoping Poythress is their candidate for Senate against sleazebag Saxby Chambliss — they guy who smeared war hero Max Cleland by comparing him to Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, even though Cleland gave half his body in service to his country.

And back in May:

Have Democrats already forgotten Max Cleland, a war hero who voted for this godforsaken war, only to have his face morphed into Saddam Hussein and accused of being soft on defense?

Salon repeating it last year:

Chambliss (who sat out the Vietnam war with a bad knee) ran a commercial that depicted Cleland’s face morphing into that of Osama bin Laden.

And NPR:

Max Cleland, a Vietnam vet and triple amputee, saw Republican TV ads morph his face into that of Osama bin Laden.

And The Nation:

His opponent, Saxby Chambliss, who avoided service in Vietnam with a knee problem, ran campaign ads morphing Cleland’s image into Osama bin Laden’s, implying the veteran was a soft-on-terror traitor.

What I’m getting at here is that it’s likely that Clinton isn’t lying. He’s just read the damn claim so many times from his favorite sources and doesn’t have enough integrity to double-check claims that he regurgitates.

Seixon on November 7, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Hypocrisy is defined by the fact that Max Cleland was sacrificing in Vietnam while Bill Clinton wasn’t inhaling pot at Oxford and using Max Cleland’s sacrifice for political gain by lying about an advertisement.

Speakup on November 7, 2007 at 11:19 PM

Bill Clinton pretty much personifies hypocrisy.

Feminists who are rapists sort of do that. And that, of course, is the proverbial tip of the blue-dress wearing iceberg.

You can blame me. I voted for him. Twice. And when the priest asks me on my deathbed in the year 2067 about my biggest regret, voting Bill Clinton over Bob Dole will make my top 10 list.

Top 5 if you narrow it down to “what the @#$@ was I thinking?” regrets.

Sure he’s a hypocrite of monumental proportions. But it worked out pretty well on the weak-minded and the young. I was youngish then. Still weak-minded, of course, but growing up a bit made the hypocrisy a little more painfully obvious.

Professor Blather on November 7, 2007 at 11:29 PM

Who else would try to extricate himself from a debacle he created with lying and negativity with more negativity while lying.

Speakup on November 7, 2007 at 10:14 PM

Habitual liars like Clinton lie so often that they loose the distinction between fact and fiction.

docdave on November 7, 2007 at 11:32 PM

I’m getting a little sick of Max Cleland talking about how he “left one arm and two legs in Vietnam”. It was his own fault. He dropped his own grenade.

SoulGlo on November 7, 2007 at 10:39 PM

Accidents occur in the military. Just because Cleland dropped his own grenade, it’s still tragic that he was injured. He served honorably and paid a horrific price to serve his nation, and it’s repulsive to hear people denigrate his condition because “it was his own fault.” His voting record as a politician and his position on the issues are fair game, but to dismiss his sacrifice because it wasn’t solely at the hands of the enemy is shameful.

windbag on November 7, 2007 at 11:42 PM

His voting record as a politician and his position on the issues are fair game, but to dismiss his sacrifice because it wasn’t solely at the hands of the enemy is shameful.

windbag on November 7, 2007 at 11:42 PM

When he allows his sacrifice to be used in a manner as to suggest he was wounded in battle, that too is a shame.

91Veteran on November 7, 2007 at 11:45 PM

Seixon on November 7, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Good work on the links, but they don’t absolve Clinton. The Democrats developed this lie in the middle of that election and they’ve been using it ever since. They know exactly what they’re doing.

Bryan on November 8, 2007 at 12:05 AM

William Safire wrote a classic editorial ( in the NYT, I believe ( about both Clintons being pathological liars, and then spelled out the nature of their particular pathology

It’s when lying is a disease; when you can’t help yourself ( or don’t WANT to help yourself; when lies and truth are so twisted and seamlessly blended in your mind that you no longer have the sense to realize the difference.

So, or course Clinton lied; he always lies; telling even minor casual throwaway truths is an Enormous Effort for Bill. It’s those rare occasions when he tells truths that Clinton is worth talking about

Don’t hold your breath…………..

Janos Hunyadi on November 8, 2007 at 12:18 AM

You can blame me. I voted for him. Twice. And when the priest asks me on my deathbed in the year 2067 about my biggest regret, voting Bill Clinton over Bob Dole will make my top 10 list.

Professor Blather on November 7, 2007 at 11:29 PM

Don’t feel bad, I knew a women who refused to vote for “that crippled guy”.

Speakup on November 8, 2007 at 12:22 AM

Janos, indeed, they are. She has a great role model. Welcome back. Missed you.

Entelechy on November 8, 2007 at 12:26 AM

It may close to veering off into slightly off topic, but as this post is about Bill Clinton lying, forgive me please.
I just finished watching Alan Colmes do all he could do to discredit Kathleen Willey on ‘Hannity and Colmes’. She has a book out detailing the threats and intimidations she has faced since testifying against President Bill Clinton about his ‘alleged’ (I’m being careful!) molesting/abuse of her in the Oval Office.
She was articulate, sharp, and ready for every one of Colmes’ “facts”. Which were not facts at all.
Colmes should be ashamed. Period.

Doug on November 8, 2007 at 1:06 AM

Bill Clinton cannot cope with the truth. He is a paranoid delusional who has rewritten history in his own mind. He can function and appear normal, but he is not. His is not a righteous anger, but a self-serving anger that protects him from reality. Hillary has enabled him and allowed him to get away with this because his charisma has served her purposes. Except when it hasn’t. That’s when the Clinton Machine kicks into high gear doing damage control. Do we really want this dysfunctional couple and their co-conspirators back int eh White House?

Connie on November 8, 2007 at 1:16 AM

int eh = in the

Connie on November 8, 2007 at 1:17 AM

I just finished watching Alan Colmes do all he could do to discredit Kathleen Willey on ‘Hannity and Colmes’. She has a book out detailing the threats and intimidations she has faced since testifying against President Bill Clinton about his ‘alleged’ (I’m being careful!) molesting/abuse of her in the Oval Office.
She was articulate, sharp, and ready for every one of Colmes’ “facts”. Which were not facts at all.
Colmes should be ashamed. Period.

Doug on November 8, 2007 at 1:06 AM

I watched that, too.

If it makes you feel better, I suspect Colmes actually does feel pretty ashamed. It can’t be easy for a liberal to attach a woman (a Democrat, no less!) who is accusing a man of sexual assault.

He looked pretty unhappy to be doing it. I’m pretty sure he (and Hannity) have orders to stick up for “their side” no matter what. I don’t think he liked it. I think he’s already ashamed.

All liberals should be.

For the record, watching Democrats abandon their principles and choosing to support Clinton – despite his attacks on women, despite the adultery and misogyny – is precisely what began my evolution towards conservatism.

Conservatives have principles. You can disagree with them, but they have them. Liberals have none. Bill Clinton (and his wife) prove that beyond any doubt.

Professor Blather on November 8, 2007 at 1:40 AM

Hallo, Entelechy, köszönöm , szeretetre méltó hölgy

Neitchze was wrong: whatever does not kill you makes you weaker, not stronger. Especially surgery……..

for a while I had more holes in me than a ( insert joke here )

Janos Hunyadi on November 8, 2007 at 1:53 AM

and I spelled Knee-chee wrong again…….

Janos Hunyadi on November 8, 2007 at 1:54 AM

A tornado transported 4 US Presidents to the Land of Oz where the Wizard granted them their wishes.
“If I only had courage” said Jimmy Carter and it was granted.
“If I only had a heart” said Richard Nixon. Granted.
“If I only had a brain” said George W Bush. Again granted.
The Wizard, however, became annoyed when an agitated Bill Clinton kept looking around frantically.
“Just what do you want?” The Wizard demanded.
“Where’s Dorothy?”

MaiDee on November 8, 2007 at 5:41 AM

And remember, Rudolfo did not want Bubba impeached

And Fred voted against impeachment.

Just because Cleland dropped his own grenade, it’s still tragic that he was injured. He served honorably and paid a horrific price to serve his nation,

He had been drinking before trying to climb into that helicopter and dropping his own handgrenade. Maybe what he had done up to that day was honorable…

peacenprosperity on November 8, 2007 at 6:13 AM

For the record, watching Democrats abandon their principles

And what principles might that be? And please don’t bring up JFK and Scoop Jackson. That was a very long time ago.

peacenprosperity on November 8, 2007 at 6:16 AM

His voting record as a politician and his position on the issues are fair game [...] to dismiss his sacrifice because it wasn’t solely at the hands of the enemy is shameful

Nothing shameful in this case, as he’s used the incident, thus creating a position on the issue – and an examination of the facts of the circumstance tend to indicate that yes, while he was in Vietnam, at the time of the accident (yes, accident, not combat), he was riding in a truck in as close to an off duty status as you could probably get in such a situation, and began to drunkenly play with the hand grenade that caused the injuries.

Now, to peddle the results of a drunken stunt gone wrong as heroic wounds received in the service of the nation – is that not shameful in and of itself?

Somewhat….

Wind Rider on November 8, 2007 at 6:18 AM

You’d think that by now Bill Clinton could let Max Cleland do his own stump speeches.

James on November 8, 2007 at 6:38 AM

The ladies man said:

The president was against the Homeland Security Bill for 8 1/2 months.

I thought the democraps were the ones who held up that bill over the issue of unionized workers.

Zorro on November 8, 2007 at 6:49 AM

Bill exists in some shadowy, parallel universe where lies are truth and all else swims in infinite shades of grey. The frightening thing about this bum is that he truly sees no wrong in any of his actions.

rplat on November 8, 2007 at 8:22 AM

Maybee,

Rich Lowry 2004 on the ad. Maybe they are confusing the Cleland video with the one that ran in Iowa in 2003.

Sue on November 8, 2007 at 9:37 AM

Bite the lip, Bubba. Go on. You know you want to.

This POS really likes to bite lips(his and others) doesn’t he.
Didn’t he put the bite on that woman who accused him of raping her? “You had better put some ice on that lip”.
Lying comes to him and his lovely wife naturally.
What a pair of scumbags!

OBX Pete on November 8, 2007 at 9:41 AM

The Clintons are never asked about the time when Hillary went to the West Bank to suck up to Yasser Arafat and Suha Arafat. Suha Arafat stated that Israel and the Jews were poisoning Palestinian children and doing so deliberately. Hillary Clinton stood there without saying a word in protest and when Suha Arafat finished with her insane antiSemitic rant, Hillary kissed Suha Arafat. She defended herself by saying she was being “diplomatic” and she said her critics did not understand diplomacy. Yet nobody in the MSM ever questions her about whether she still thinks she did the right thing by not at least publicly rebuking Suha Arafat. Hopefully the video of this disgraceful Hillary performance is available and could make it to youtube.
At the next debate, at least one reporter should ask: “Did you do the right thing by allowing Suha Arafat to state that Israel and the Jews were posioning Palestinian children and not responding to Suha Arafat?” Somehow, I doubt that anyone will ask her that question.

Larraby on November 8, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Friedrich Nietzsche was wrong about many things, Janos. I loved both your spelling goofs on him.

Sorry to hear about your woes and sure hope that you will get better and better real soon. HA can be very therapeutic :) Welcome back and speedy recovery,

Entelechy on November 8, 2007 at 1:27 PM

It does no such thing. Bill Clinton is, to the surprise of exactly no one on earth who’s been paying attention for the past 15 29 years, lying through his teeth.

Fixed that for you. His lying began long before the Oval Office. Check out the phrase; “Thank God for Mississippi, and remember who was Arkansas governor for most of the 80′s.”

Freelancer on November 8, 2007 at 4:14 PM