Video: Lefty whackjobs waterboard themselves
posted at 6:00 pm on November 6, 2007 by Bryan
They did this outside the Capitol today to protest the nomination of Michael Mukasey to become AG. I don’t think this video really helps sell the idea that it’s an extreme treatment. Compared to all the videos floating around out there of Saddam’s grisly tortures and Zarqawi’s killings, this seems mild. It must be worse than it looks. Or they’re, you know, being as excitable as usual.
Update: The folks over at Stop the ACLU have noticed something that I noticed earlier too, which is that the towel seems awfully rigid as it’s going on the guy’s face, as though there’s a shield or something there. They’re obviously hiding whatever is under the towel, which could be allowing water through or it could be keeping water from getting to the guy at all. It’s hard to say. I’m not sure that that means they’re faking the waterboarding, though I wouldn’t put it past them.
Update: Down in comments, jummy says it’s a sponge. Could be. The point is, I don’t think it’s fair to jump to claims of fakery based solely on what’s in the video.
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Torture Option One: Get waterboarded.
Torture Option Two: Listen to liberals whine about how bad waterboarding is.
What to choose… What to choose…
Lawrence on November 7, 2007 at 9:14 AM
You’re kidding right?
Ortzinator on November 7, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Kini was right if it was beer and an initiation rite of entry into a frat or sorority there would have nothing been said by the participants or chancellorship.
But because they used water and called it waterboarding it is bad. The victim said it was worse than drowning, did he die to know the actual difference.
The reenactment was not even conducted by professionals so actual outcomes are questionable.
As a retired G.I.(25 years in the military)I can tell you there are worse tricks awaiting one if they are ever captured and we experienced it as part of our POW training which teaches us how to react when captured.
And if you ask Sen McCain, he will tell you that the actual treatment metered out by the enemies of U.S. is worse than we can ever imagine or were trained to expect.
Before you condemn something, you must fully understand it. If you just listen to someone constantly tell you something is bad you will admit it just to shut them up.
MSGTAS on November 7, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Jummy,
Dude… it’s a board, and water, a waterboard! Of course it’s a slippery slope. That’s the intent in’it?
/cackle
I think it would be more effective using Wendy’s frosties. Fear of drowning plus brain freeze? I’d talk.
Immolate on November 7, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Another angle to this: relatively few American servicemen are subjected to waterboarding in training, but many, probably hundreds of thousands, have been subjected to intense exposure to tear gas during chemical warfare training.
This is the scenario: you’re standing in the grass outside a small, concrete hut wearing a gas mask. You can hardly breath as it is, a property of the gas mask, but at least you don’t have to wear the full gear this time so you aren’t sweating over your entire body. Eventually, it’s your turn and you enter the hut at the gesture of person controlling access. Inside is an NCO in a mask who instructs you to remove your mask. On the floor is a coffee can with ropes of smoke drifting up from it, contributing to an already very hazy atmosphere. Depending on your personality, you might man up and inhale a snoot-full right away, or you might make every effort to avoid breathing. It doesn’t really matter of course, the NCO knows what he’s doing and will ask you questions and make you stand there long enough to breath.
Once you do, they let you out directly where you proceed to a staging area behind the hut where you put your hands on your knees and watch water pour from your eyes and mouth, snot pour from your nose, and maybe vomit a bit. It burns like a bitch and makes you feel thoroughly whipped. You can’t see, you can hardly breath, your respiratory tract is on fire, and you’d probably cooperate with an authoritative six-year-old if they asked you to.
There are a few who are less-irritated and a few to whom the process could be deadly because of other medical conditions and sensitivities, but most people react the way I described. If they made me choose that again or waterboarding, I’d choose waterboarding.
Immolate on November 7, 2007 at 11:18 AM
[sarcasm]
Ah, come on now. They’re just expressing their discontent for the current administration.
[/sarcasm]
eanax on November 7, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Keen observation. Monkey see, monkey do…
eanax on November 7, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Hysterical people are hysterical.
dougless on November 7, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Watch when the “torturer” removes the towel – there is some sort of shield under it – they’re actually faking the waterboarding.
PJ Emeritus on November 7, 2007 at 12:20 PM
He says, “If you would do that to get an answer out of someone, you deserve no better than what you’re giving.”
What does that say of people who would do this just to make a political point when no one’s life is in danger?
Seriously, all of this nonsense, and it turns out that more people have waterboarded for fun than for information.
Esthier on November 7, 2007 at 2:12 PM
But it looks square, like a sponge.
Esthier on November 7, 2007 at 2:13 PM
That would be hilarious!
I have to say, I understand what the whole process of waterboarding is supposed to do mentally to the person recieving it, but, after watching these putzs demonstrate, it’s hard for me to say that looks like torture. C’mon now, no blood, bruises, broken bones…
4shoes on November 7, 2007 at 5:09 PM
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