Is the lesson I am learning today. Remember when HotAir featured some posts about Ron Paul’s supporters setting November 5th (Guy Fawkes Day if you are gay British) as the day in which they hoped to raise a great big……

a movie that glorifies violent revolution?

lol…what do you do every July 4?

*yawn*

Considering the fact that there is plenty of historical data to back that claim, it would not be such a ridiculous position to take…

“I’m not too worried about it. Guy Fawkes is a symbol for many anarchists and libertarians (some one in the same). These are the comic book nerds who want to feel like they are accomplishing something. And Fawkes looks cool. They don’t consider the fact he would kill hundreds (thousands?) and make matters worse rather than better.”

You may want to acquaint yourself with history before making such idiotic remarks in the future.

If you talk to real conservatives or to libertarians, they aren’t advocating a violent revolution. The only reason “V for Vendetta” slogans are used is because the motivation behind them is the same: a desire for freedom. A desire for America as its founders intended.

I’m confused, you mean these people don’t feel free in this country? What exactly do they need in order to feel free? Maybe they should go live in a country like Iran or Syria for a while, and then come back and see if they feel any different, that is, if they are able to go anywhere, it’s hard to move when your head’s not attached to the rest of you.

So they couldn’t come up with any better slogans for freedom than ffrom a movie that glorifies violent revolution? You’re being willfully blind here. They cite V for Vendetta because it gives them a hard-on to think of themselves as dangerous subversives tearing down the system from within.

The film has the best selection of pro-liberty quotes that I’ve ever heard in a mainstream movie. But yeah, marketing probably influenced the choice. It’s sexier than using Ayn Rand or Barry Goldwater quotes.

The violent imagery is part and parcel of that.

In so far as violence is “cool” and “sexy” and gets people’s attention, yeah. But violence isn’t a part of Paul’s campaign.

It was pro free speech. It also depicted a government far more corrupt and evil than ours — corrupt enough to justify a violent revolution. If you talk to real conservatives or to libertarians, they aren’t advocating a violent revolution. The only reason “V for Vendetta” slogans are used is because the motivation behind them is the same: a desire for freedom.

Really? So they couldn’t come up with any better slogans for freedom than ffrom a movie that glorifies violent revolution? You’re being willfully blind here. They cite V for Vendetta because it gives them a hard-on to think of themselves as dangerous subversives tearing down the system from within. The violent imagery is part and parcel of that. If Giuliani started using images of carpet bombing in his campaigns, libertarians would soil themselves and declare him a crypto-fascist. When Paul and his followers do the converse, they’re cheered as being “pro-freedom.” Please.

With, of course, the obligatory disclaimer: “Paul clarified at the rally that he is not involved in this particular fundraising effort.” Lucky thing, too, because the November 5th group’s ads have been appearing on Stormfront.

Guilt by association by association? C’mon — they haven’t just “been appearing.” They were put there unilaterally by Stormfront. Anyone whose political opinions are formed — pro or con — because of the views of a vile racist organization should be ashamed.

I really don’t get why Ron Paul,a Republican is getting caught up in this Revolution,V-for Vendetta slogans,when normally that kind of talk and thinking is associated with lefty moonbats.

You should watch the movie. It wasn’t “lefty” at all. It was anti-totalitarian. It was pro citizen armament. It was anti-taxes. It was pro religious freedoms. It was pro free speech. It also depicted a government far more corrupt and evil than ours — corrupt enough to justify a violent revolution. If you talk to real conservatives or to libertarians, they aren’t advocating a violent revolution. The only reason “V for Vendetta” slogans are used is because the motivation behind them is the same: a desire for freedom. A desire for America as its founders intended.

So a terrorist is a caped crusader now?

Was the Boston Tea Party perpetrated by terrorists? Or was it a patriotic act of defiance against a tyrannical government? Probably depends on who you asked. King George would undoubtably have called it terrorism. The people of Boston might well have disagreed.

We could do that in a few elections. I think most people like our government, just not all the people who serve in it.

I don’t think that is the case, Congress polls even lower than W. I’m more for chucking the whole thing and starting over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_9fip694A

Flap asked the question whether Ron Paul would embrace the November 5th fundraising creep show.
Ron Paul answered today – well sort of.
It’s sort of an odd allusion for a fundraising campaign in these …

two recent examples of security breaches that could have been MUCH worse than they were: the Red-handed freakazoid in Condi Rice’s face and the “No War for Oil” nut on the Matthews show the other day.

If she was of a mind to, the crazy woman was close enough that she could have snapped Rice’s neck. Thank god she didnt, but she could have very easily done so before being apprehended. Likewise, that college nutbar who crowded the stage with Matthews and Joe Trippi during Hardball was also close enough to do something lethal.

Krickey.

The Guy Fawkes scenario is also the subject of the dystopic 2005 Big Brother-style fantasy thriller “V for Vendetta” in which a Guy Fawkes caped crusader succeeds in blowing up Parliament.

So a terrorist is a caped crusader now?

Interesting.

But then again, these people don’t realize they’ll make matters worse rather than better.

The South Carolina man, who’s 60 or 61, was cooperating with officers and being questioned on site at the facility about 50 miles west of Phoenix, Chagolla said. The incident does not appear to be a terrorism act, the spokesman said.

“No nexus with terrorism is in our investigation at this point,” Chagolla said.

I don’t think you are giving enough credence to the sizable? portion of this country that, if given a choice, would rather chuck this entire Gov’t and start over.

We could do that in a few elections. I think most people like our government, just not all the people who serve in it.