I found this at RCP, and I’d hate for you to miss it.

The Left Hates Rudy. .

Here’s an excerpt, and gosh what does it say:

Within the past month, the New Republic, the Nation, and the Washington Monthly have all run anti-Giuliani cover stories, with the latter one declaring that, “as president, Giuliani would grab even more executive power than Bush and Cheney.”

In an anti-Blackwater screed, you quoted someone who writes for The Nation and other hard Left publications. Here’s the thread.

It is maddening, and it is particularly irritating when you insist on using Left wing magazines as a source to smear Rudy and make charges that he is a tyrant at heart who can’t wait to turn America into a totalitarian state.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 5:52 PM

I make no effort to find “Left wing magazines” to quote. Much/most of what I read is linked to by RCP which is pretty middle of the road, maybe s bit to the right. I don’t tend toward “shooting the messenger”. Those stories had a lot of detail to be fabrications. “Poor lairs give lots of details, good ones don’t”. They gave a lot of details. If they were lying they would not have done that as there would be too much to trip them up. Maybe they are just stupid, but I doubt that.

When Gore lost in 2000, many democrats blamed Ralph Nader, when the fault was with Gore and those who nominated him. Same rules apply now.

MB4 on November 2, 2007 at 4:41 PM

Rules? It’s not about “rules”, it’s about handing the White House over to a Democrat who will do irreparable harm to this nation.

Al Gore was a poor candidate, and in comparison any one of ours (except for Ron Paul) are a thousand times better than that phony, clueless jackass.

It sounds like you (and others) are trying to blackmail voters. It is maddening, and it is particularly irritating when you insist on using Left wing magazines as a source to smear Rudy and make charges that he is a tyrant at heart who can’t wait to turn America into a totalitarian state.

If you can get your favorite nominee nominated, fine, all the power to you. If you can’t and stay home in a hissy fit then you should be willing to take some responsibility for the results.

I also wouldn’t be too sure the Dems will hold Congress.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 4:17 PM

In 2008, the Republicans have almost twice as many seats up in the Senate as do the democrats, plus the Republicans have a number of retirements. There is almost no way that the democrats will not make further gains in the Senate, which they already have a majority in. Very best plausable case for Republicans is that the democrats only gain a couple of seats and the Republicans correspondingly only lose a couple. That is the very best, bar an “Act of God”.

You can vote for one of them (and with the help of people like you we can win), you can go with a Third Party and elect the Dem nominee by default, you can vote for the Dem nominee, or you can stay home.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 4:17 PM

When Gore lost in 2000, many democrats blamed Ralph Nader, when the fault was with Gore and those who nominated him. Same rules apply now.

I also wouldn’t be too sure the Dems will hold Congress. Bush is doing a great job right of chasing their sorry tails right now and this could turn on a dime.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 4:17 PM

Indeed – 2008 will be one of the most interesting years in a long time. And there will be many contra-media-assumed-and-desired outcomes.

We have learned our lessons when it comes to the Supreme Court.

I’m glad to see that you are letting us know who you would support because I have to say that other than Fred, it has not been evident that anyone was acceptable to your exacting standards.

Obviously Tancredo or Hunter are not in the running. That leaves Romney and Guiliani, and possibly but not probably, Fred.

You have exactly 4 choice on election day:

You can vote for one of them (and with the help of people like you we can win), you can go with a Third Party and elect the Dem nominee by default, you can vote for the Dem nominee, or you can stay home.

Only one of those choices is of any immediate or lasting value to the Republican agenda. Guess which one that is!

I also wouldn’t be too sure the Dems will hold Congress. Bush is doing a great job right of chasing their sorry tails right now and this could turn on a dime.

Voting third party to get the Republicans to pay attention to you is like divorcing your wife to get more ‘business time.’

No, thanks.

Voting third party to get the Republicans to pay attention to you is like divorcing your wife that witch Hillary to get even more ‘business time. sack time with some more hot babes!

Yes, thanks, I’ll have another.

- Bill Clinton

Entelechy on November 2, 2007 at 3:57 PM

Entelechy,
You are a diamond in a bin of coal.
- Somebody or other

There is NO WAY that another Gingsburg or Kennedy will sit on the Supreme Court if we have a Republican President. NONE.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 3:31 PM

So Ronald Reagan was not a Republican in your mind then?

MB4 hopes we will vote for a third party. That in itself is enough reason not to do it, no matter how disenchanted one might be with our crop of candidates.

Buy Danish on November 2, 2007 at 3:51 PM

That is a blatant falsehood. I am hoping that Tancredo or Hunter or Romney or Thompson gets the Republican nomination and people will vote for him.

If he wishes to retain his freedoms for all things good and beautiful he’ll also vote conservative in the end. If not, he’s a free man to do whatever he pleases. I for one will still like him becaue I enjoy differing banter. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don’t. That’s one of the beauties of HA. It’s not an ossified forum, leftie or rightie.

Off topic – Bratton is on my s-list more often than not. On the one hand he’s effective and on the other he’s a media whore who’s done more for PR and for illegal immigration and media stunts than just doing the right thing for LA and country.

Then vote third party.

Voting third party to get the Republicans to pay attention to you is like divorcing your wife to get more ‘business time.’

No, thanks.

I just don’t have any hope of them growing a spine.

Slublog on November 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM

Then vote third party.

Hillary=Hitlery=Totalitarian State that is governed by the United Nations.

sonnyspats1 on November 2, 2007 at 3:10 PM

OK then:
Rudolf=II Duce=Mafia like State that is run by control freak Rudy and his cronies serving only their capo.
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Giuliani’s seemingly insatiable appetite for authority was evident, first and foremost, in the way he ran his administration. Obsessed, as always, with loyalty, he demanded that power be centralized in his hands and that he receive credit for any of the administration’s achievements. Even the Department of Environmental Protection’s daily reports on the water level in the reservoir had to be cleared through Giuliani’s press office before being released. He also replaced Dinkins-era officials with loyalists, some of whom had little preparation for their jobs. Tony Carbonetti, the grandson of Harold Giuliani’s friend, was put in charge of the Office of Appointments, even though his previous experience consisted mostly of running a bar in Boston. According to Kirtzman, “one agency estimated that, of patronage hires, 60 percent were qualified, 20 percent had no experience, and 20 percent were ‘dirtbags.’ ” Among these hires was Carbonetti’s father, who was named director of the Community Assistance Unit. He was forced to resign after admitting that he had two driver’s licenses and had failed to pay $156,000 in liens and judgments against one of his businesses.

The most important casualty of this process was Bratton, who, besides Giuliani himself, was most responsible for the administration’s early success. Whenever the press gave too much credit to Bratton, the police chief and his spokesman John Miller would be called into city hall to be bawled out by Giuliani loyalists. Miller was finally forced to quit. After Time put Bratton on its cover in January 1996, an enraged Giuliani had City Hall attorneys begin investigating his personal expenses. That was enough for Bratton. He quit two months later.

Well if they have learned absolutely nothing from that mistake, then there is no hope for them anyway, none at all.

I just don’t have any hope of them growing a spine.

Entelechy on November 2, 2007 at 2:41 PM

I agree with you about Krauthammer.

MB4 on November 2, 2007 at 3:09 PM

There is NO WAY that another Gingsburg or Kennedy will sit on the Supreme Court if we have a Republican President. NONE.