AP: DOJ is investigating Hillary’s donations in Chinatown

posted at 4:51 pm on November 1, 2007 by Allahpundit

It’s hearsay but there’s no reason to doubt it. Looks like that FEC complaint was superfluous.

On the wall of Hsiao Yen Wang’s apartment, a cramped, 17th-floor public housing unit on the city’s Lower East Side, are photographs of her husband, David Guo, a cook who specializes in Fujian cuisine.

One photo stands out: Guo shaking Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s hand, a memento from a $1,000-a-person fundraiser for the New York senator held in New York’s Chinatown last April.

Last week, Wang got another memento _ a calling card from a Justice Department criminal investigator. The investigator asked Wang if she was coerced into giving money to the campaign and whether she knew of anybody else who may have been forced to contribute.

Wang says she wasn’t coerced but her contribution was refunded anyway because the campaign thought that sum was suspicious coming from a low-wage earner. The DOJ won’t confirm the investigation but let’s assume it’s true. Why would someone from the criminal division, as opposed to the FEC, be snooping around the area? Well, maybe because of stuff like this:

FEC records show that the campaign returned at least $8,000 in checks to at least eight donors, most of them at the end of June. Among those donors were four identified as cooks and one as a cashier. The campaign also returned $4,600 to a donor who appeared to have earlier given the maximum allowed by law.

The campaign appears to have missed some others.

In one small store, a woman said she donated to the Clinton campaign but didn’t have citizenship or a green card. A man living in a Brooklyn boarding house who identified himself as an artist said he also gave $1,000, but said he, too, has no citizenship and no green card.

The AP pulled the addresses of 44 donors at random to see if any were fake. All were real, and the reporters personally spoke to 19 of the donors. But:

One address was a mahjong parlor. At another, a donor identified as a cashier could not be found, and the building superintendent said he had not heard of the person. Associates of some people listed as donors said they were in China and could not be contacted. Others did not return messages left with families.

The LA Times couldn’t find one-third of the donors they checked; the AP did better, but still appears to have fallen below 50%. Stay tuned.

Update: Captain Ed makes a nice catch: the New York Post story from a few weeks ago that alleged an illegal reimbursement neglected to note that the reimbursement was between a husband and wife — namely, Hsiao Yen Wang and David Guo, the couple mentioned in the AP story. That means it wasn’t illegal. Bad job, Posties.


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They can’t find 50% of the donors? My God. The witch’s lair smells like rat.

Zetterson on November 1, 2007 at 5:00 PM

I see that was an AP story in The Post-Star, my little used-to-be-conservative-now-seriously-left-of-center local rag.

I agree with your “stay tuned.” There’s a lot more here.

Connie on November 1, 2007 at 5:04 PM

thank god
won’t mean much and it won’t really affect her but its good

Defector01 on November 1, 2007 at 5:05 PM

Is anyone seriously surprised by this? Hillary’s SOP: fraud and tangled webs.

stonemeister on November 1, 2007 at 5:11 PM

Never mind, it’ll all be blamed on Bush, or Karl Rove… Just another attack by the VRWC.

jdawg on November 1, 2007 at 5:11 PM

How is it that I donate $25 to (insert non-profit or PAC here), resulting in a daily solicition via postal mail(!), and yet 30-50% of the people who’ve seemingly donated a tidy sum of $$ to $hillary can’t be found by the FEC? Do these people get mail via the USPS every day?

We know darn well that their address is on about 117 ‘Demo-Donor’ lists floating around the DC PAC offices…do any of those PAC’s question the validity of a Shillary fundraising list that has phony addresses, non-citizens, or mythical donors on it?

Nevermind, I just answered my own question.

Biffstir on November 1, 2007 at 5:12 PM

I hope this story has legs cankles.

fogw on November 1, 2007 at 5:13 PM

What are the potential legal penalties for these nefarious goings on?
Will they touch hillary herself, or will she merely throw an underling under the bus?

redshirt on November 1, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Why should we believe that anything will come of this? Sandy Burgler is still on the loose, and Bush has been advising Hillary for the run up to the election.

I’d say this is window dressing, nothing more.

But I do have a question – Where are the Federal Regulators to investigate this possible election related fraud?

madmonkphotog on November 1, 2007 at 5:15 PM

Will they touch hillary herself, or will she merely throw an underling under the bus?

redshirt on November 1, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Surely you already know the answer to this. I have never seen anyone so ready to throw someone under a bus as Hillary.

Buford on November 1, 2007 at 5:27 PM

But I do have a question – Where are the Federal Regulators to investigate this possible election related fraud?

madmonkphotog on November 1, 2007 at 5:15 PM

Undoubtedly someplace having envelopes passed to them under the table while sharing a couple of drinks with Hillary campaign people, or possible Bill himself.

doriangrey on November 1, 2007 at 5:27 PM

Maybe they’re in line in NY to get drivers licenses.

Weebork on November 1, 2007 at 5:30 PM

What are the potential legal penalties for these nefarious goings on?
Will they touch hillary herself, or will she merely throw an underling under the bus?

redshirt on November 1, 2007 at 5:14 PM

I’m sure she has already picked out the toss-iees, More folks that will mysteriously commit suicide or dissappear.

conservnut on November 1, 2007 at 5:39 PM

conservnut on November 1, 2007 at 5:39 PM

He11 the designated toss-iee is probably already in China “visiting relatives”.

doriangrey on November 1, 2007 at 5:43 PM

In midtown Manhattan, a photograph of Bill Clinton hangs inside a massage parlor called Green Qi Gong Tui-Na, which boasts “The Best Chinese Massage.”

This is not fair to Hillary. Stop piling on!

Buy Danish on November 1, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Will they touch hillary herself, or will she merely throw an underling under the bus?

redshirt on November 1, 2007 at 5:14 PM

That’s a hypothetical question and so she refuses to say who will be thrown.

pedestrian on November 1, 2007 at 6:29 PM

Still, where are these people, even the “real” ones, getting this kind of cash?

I predict I’ll be seeing Kirsten Powers on Fox again, protesting “Dishwashers are people too!!!” and insisting these are “honorable jobs!”

(note for trolls: I’m not implying that dishwashing is “dishonorable”, I just wouldn’t describe it as “honorable”, and found it hilarious that KP did. I worked at McDonald’s like a lot of kids in my town when I was 16, but it wasn’t “honorable” work.)

RightWinged on November 1, 2007 at 6:31 PM

The dems might know that there are loads of dirty laundry fixin to come out about Cankles, so they are attacking her early to get her out of the way.

TheSitRep on November 1, 2007 at 6:50 PM

It’s a worthwhile pursuit mainly on the basis that it is the right thing to do. Of course I’m referring to the investigation. I expect nothing to come of it..it’s the political class looking into the political class…so nothing will come of it. Hillary is just continuing the scandals of the 90′s, when the Chi-Coms bought the 96 election and access to military technology……..

ritethinker on November 1, 2007 at 6:57 PM

More likely they know Hillary’s their man.

The rest is just a faux food fight that is really a pillow fight. Lots of stuff in the air but no damage done.

It’s always for that side stage play and faux drama interposed with self congratulations on how brilliant they are.

CommentGuy on November 1, 2007 at 7:01 PM

What is it with the Chinese and the Clintons? What did I miss in the 90s that explains their support of them?

Sue on November 1, 2007 at 7:36 PM

Mostly every kind of technology sale for missiles to China at at time they couldn’t buy a successful launch.

That was the big headliner but there was tons of other tech stuff slipped their way with the actual signed waivers by Clinton to bless them on their way over riding existing security requirements.

CommentGuy on November 1, 2007 at 7:42 PM

And that’s the last you’ll hear of it.

Asher on November 1, 2007 at 9:00 PM

Hillary and Bill are turning into the abysmal and embarassing sequel to “CHINATOWN”: “The Two Jakes“.

Or “The Two Jokes“, to be more accurate.

profitsbeard on November 1, 2007 at 9:48 PM

Looks like that FEC complaint was superfluous.

Wouldn’t the FEC and Justice be investigating different charges? I guess I was thinking the FEC would be looking at what would essentially amount to “civil” charges (breaking rules, not laws), while justice would be looking into criminal charges.

The AP pulled the addresses of 44 donors at random to see if any were fake. All were real, and the reporters personally spoke to 19 of the donors. But:

That’s not making sense to me (its a little late for me). How do they know they’re “All were real” if they can’t find them?

taznar on November 1, 2007 at 10:27 PM

The most serious tech. the Chinese procured from the Clintons was the missile-guidance technology. They could launch a missile but had no idea where it was going. Thanks to Boy Clinton, they made up forty years of technology in a single month……

The Clintons, the most govt. money can buy………..

ritethinker on November 2, 2007 at 2:37 AM