Video: Who won the Democratic debate?

posted at 12:05 pm on October 31, 2007 by Allahpundit

Answer: not Hillary. Obama compared himself at the beginning of the debate to Rocky fighting Apollo Creed, but after Her Majesty’s illegal alien stumble, he’s really more like Rocky regaining the momentum against Clubber Lang. Ain’t so bad, champ.

If he doesn’t move in the polls after this, though, then he’s well and truly dead.

Luntz plays part of Obama’s roundhouse on the subject of Hillary’s archived White House papers but leaves off the end, which I thought was the best part of the best answer of the night. You’ll find the full clip in an update to the debate post. Watch it if you haven’t yet.


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From the link: “We’re in the odd situation where the righties in the Corner think Hillary had a better night than the MSM crew.”

Heh.

Slublog on October 31, 2007 at 12:13 PM

INEVITABLE, BABY.

Allahpundit on October 31, 2007 at 12:15 PM

I believe I just watch Obama say

Try not to get worried
Try not to turn on to
Problems that upset you
oh Don’t you know
And we want you to sleep well tonight
Let the world turn without you tonight
If we try
We’ll get by

Sadly, the jihadist bogeyman is real and he is at the door.

thuja on October 31, 2007 at 12:16 PM

Obama is articulate and clean, but is a stone liberal and would destroy this country as fast as Hillary would.

csdeven on October 31, 2007 at 12:17 PM

Who won? I did, because I didn’t watch a single minute of it.

Number 2 on October 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM

obama really cant use this as fodder as he just another open borders pro shamnesty pos senator like hilldabest .

Mojack420 on October 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Obama: “We will take action to protect the United States…”
Rating: Drops 6 points.

Just sayin’. I don’t really believe that means anything, but it was funny that the line that stopped his upward climb into the 90′s was about protetecting the US.

DaveS on October 31, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Who won? I did, because I didn’t watch a single minute of it.

Number 2 on October 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM

What Number 2 said….

doriangrey on October 31, 2007 at 12:36 PM

If he doesn’t move in the polls after this, though, then he’s well and truly dead.

With all due respect, I don’t know why you think debate performance should move polls, or why any poll movement would be linked to debates. What percent of the electorate actually watches the debate? 1%? 2%? Even if half of the people watching all of a sudden change their opinion of a candidate, then the movement would be so small as to be undetectable in any polls.

Clark1 on October 31, 2007 at 12:42 PM

That Hillary would dodge questions and the other candidates would come after her was entirely predictable. The only reason I can think of to watch would be to see what kind of insanity moment Kuchinich might have… and it turns out he delivered.

Hollowpoint on October 31, 2007 at 12:42 PM

What percent of the electorate actually watches the debate? 1%? 2%?

It’s not just who watches, it’s the coverage afterwards in the media.

Allahpundit on October 31, 2007 at 12:43 PM

obama really cant use this as fodder as he just another open borders pro shamnesty pos senator like hilldabest .

His line of attack won’t be issue-based, it will be character-based. What she said was bad enough – her lame attempts to contradict herself a few minutes later were worse.

Slublog on October 31, 2007 at 12:46 PM

If he doesn’t move in the polls after this, though, then he’s well and truly dead.

If, in 2007, a man with so little experience in international affairs he cites his college transcript, a man with 3 years total experience in national politics, a man whose upbringing and positions have yet to be fully or statisfactorily explained…….. if this man is viable for the Presidency, we all are dead!

Face it folks, Hillary is the most qualified of the very bad lot the “rats” found at the bottom of the moonbat barrel.

highhopes on October 31, 2007 at 12:50 PM

It’s not just who watches, it’s the coverage afterwards in the media.

Yah, how it’s spun is almost more important than the debate itself.

John from OPFOR on October 31, 2007 at 12:52 PM

Obama is articulate and clean, but is a stone liberal and would destroy this country as fast as Hillary would.

csdeven on October 31, 2007 at 12:17 PM

RACIST! While that’s all true that he’s as much a liberal nut as Hill, Obama is much less capable than Hillary, he also doesn’t have the Clinton machine behind him.

Beyond that is the experience factor, the entire GOP field has more experience, which is a HUGE plus, and yeah, I’m going back to this again, remember the Cheney/Silky debate?

Cheney ain’t exactly charismatic or even likeable guy (though I like the curmudgeon), but he stomped Silky and showed everyone what a lightweight he was in that debate, and it definitely hurt the Carry/Silky campaign a bit.

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 12:55 PM

highhopes on October 31, 2007 at 12:50 PM

If that was true, we’d be dead already. Really, are any of his qualifications any less than Jew-hater Jimmuh Carter’s were? Far as I can tell, they probably aren’t, unless maybe you count Jimmuh’s time in the Navy.

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 12:59 PM

What percent of the electorate actually watches the debate? 1%? 2%?
It’s not just who watches, it’s the coverage afterwards in the media.

Allahpundit on October 31, 2007 at 12:43 PM

Spot on. I haven’t watched a debate yet. I just hit Hot Air the next morning for the recap

mugged on October 31, 2007 at 1:05 PM

“If, in 2007, a man with so little experience in international affairs he cites his college transcript, a man with 3 years total experience in national politics, a man whose upbringing and positions have yet to be fully or statisfactorily explained…….. if this man is viable for the Presidency, we all are dead!”

–highhopes

Look on the bright side. I just became that much more qualified to become President. And I’m a chemist!

Nethicus on October 31, 2007 at 1:06 PM

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Mr. Peanut was the governor of Georgia.

pedestrian on October 31, 2007 at 1:06 PM

Like I give a sh*t which libby-dem won?

georgej on October 31, 2007 at 1:07 PM

Mr. Peanut was the governor of Georgia.

pedestrian on October 31, 2007 at 1:06 PM

Yeah, and how much better is that than being a Senator for a large state? I mean really?

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 1:09 PM

Yeah, and how much better is that than being a Senator for a large state? I mean really?

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 1:09 PM

A senior Senator maybe, but I have stuff in tupperware in my fridge that’s been there longer than Obama’s been on the hill.

mugged on October 31, 2007 at 1:13 PM

Heh, Part II – Lowry: Wait…did I say Hillary won?!?

Slublog on October 31, 2007 at 1:15 PM

A senior Senator maybe, but I have stuff in tupperware in my fridge that’s been there longer than Obama’s been on the hill.

mugged on October 31, 2007 at 1:13 PM

Eh, whatever.

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Yeah, and how much better is that than being a Senator for a large state? I mean really?

Bad Candy on October 31, 2007 at 1:09 PM

A governer is the chief executive of a very large organization, and in some ways is the president of a small country. They are responsible for choosing agency heads, judges, and developing a budget. They have to answer when things go wrong. A senator sits on committees, gives speeches, votes, and blames things on the executive.

pedestrian on October 31, 2007 at 2:00 PM

You have to love how much democrats talk about fear mongering while they insist on teaching children in elementary schools about how quickly the end of the world is coming as the result of global warming.

Misty217 on October 31, 2007 at 2:09 PM

You have to love how much democrats talk about fear mongering while they insist on teaching children in elementary schools about how quickly the end of the world is coming as the result of global warming.

Misty217 on October 31, 2007 at 2:09 PM

+1 for what Misty said.

Excellent observation.

Black Adam on October 31, 2007 at 4:53 PM

I would have loved to have seen Lutz’s positive/negative-o-meter for Hillary’s answer on driver’s licenses for illegals.

danking70 on October 31, 2007 at 5:00 PM

I would have loved to have seen Lutz’s positive/negative-o-meter for Hillary’s answer on driver’s licenses for illegals.

danking70 on October 31, 2007 at 5:00 PM

True dat.

Fox should have a feed online that only shows the graphic.

- The Cat

MirCat on October 31, 2007 at 7:37 PM

It’s funny that the democrat voters a crowing DU/Daily Kos talking points. Liberals are so angry all the time. It’s unhealthy.

SouthernGent on October 31, 2007 at 9:04 PM

It’s funny that the democrat voters a crowing DU/Daily Kos talking points. Liberals are so angry all the time. It’s unhealthy.

SouthernGent on October 31, 2007 at 9:04 PM

ANGRY LIBERALS: KOStrophobics.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 31, 2007 at 10:26 PM