Comments on: Rudy: If U.S. had universal health care, I might be dead; Update: Rudy’s numbers wrong?

By: Religious Right gives Rudy the nod - ConflictingViews

Religious Right gives Rudy the nod - ConflictingViews — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:54:37 +0000

[...] homosexuality then he is the value of the dollar. Rudy isn’t socialist, that’s ignorantly false Hot Air

By: Connie

Connie — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:09:34 +0000

I didn’t see this brought up here, although I may have missed it, but one of the biggest reasons Americans go abroad for healthcare is because other countries are more lax when it comes to approving new drugs and procedures. If someone is critically ill and reads about some possible miracle cure that isn’t available here, he’ll take his chances in a foreign country.

You can sign up to be part of a study group and receive treatments that are new, but that is risky too.

By: rpower57

rpower57 — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:30:05 +0000

THE feds should not be in the medical business period. since when has the govt been experts in anything other than military. HILLARY GET OUT OF OUR FACES!

By: Alia

Alia — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:49:32 +0000

I have had a herniated disc in my back since 1998. After five years mostly pain free after a series of epidural steroid treatments, I started having problems again with pain and losing feeling in my legs. My doctor thought the disc might have moved and was now pressing on a nerve, so he sent me for an MRI to determine if the disc had moved and it might be time to go the surgical route (I’m 35, so I really wouldn’t want to live with this another 40-50 years). Only they saw a bone lesion on the MRI and I was scheduled for a full-body bone scan to determine if there are any more lesions or if it’s possibly something as benign as a cyst (I’m waiting for the results). Where would I be now with socialized medicine? Probably still waiting for the MRI that found the bone lesion, assuming the doctor had even ordered one.

By: MB4

MB4 — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:27:28 +0000

Has anyone read a blogger so out of touch with the Republican party?

mylegsareswollen on October 30, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Has anyone read any republicans so out of touch with conservatives as to try to push Rudolf down their throats?

By: mylegsareswollen

mylegsareswollen — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:26:14 +0000

Allahpundit: Shilling for Hillary since 2007

Has anyone read a blogger so out of touch with the Republican party?

By: MB4

MB4 — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:43:42 +0000

New York Daily News – 6/26/98: Mayor Giuliani called the ruling a “very, very big victory for New York City and for New York State” that would keep in place the federal Medicaid reimbursement formula for hospitals serving poor patients without insurance. “Why the Clinton administration, that began on a note of wanting to give universal health care, ended up vetoing this particular area of legislation as a political matter, I will never understand” Giuliani said.
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Draw your own conclusions.

By: csdeven

csdeven — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:02:33 +0000

the five-year survival rate would almost certainly be increased, since cancers would be caught sooner.

Only for those citizens who are deemed worthy to invest limited funds into. That leaves out the elderly and those not “essential” for the country to operate.

We know for a fact that rationed health care goes hand in hand with government health care systems.

By: So, Our Health Care System That Deals with Cancer Better than Socalized Health Care Would Be Even Better If It Were Socialized Health Care? : The Sundries Shack

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:10:53 +0000

[...] a tidbit in the update to the Hot Air post on Giuliani’s health care ad that struck me as really humorous. Don McCanne, a senior health policy fellow at Physicians for a [...]

By: nailinmyeye

nailinmyeye — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:10:50 +0000

I haven’t had time to read all the comments, so someone may have made mention of this.

Of Americans who go overseas to pay for surgeries, etc…, I wonder how much of that is cosmetic surgeries, which would not be covered under insurance plans anyway.

In one of my wife’s magazines there was a whole article on medical tourism for different types of plastic surgery.

Cosmetic services make up a large portion of Surgical Tourism Canada’s offerings.

By: Giuliani: If I Had to Rely on Socialized Health Care, I’d Probably Be Dead Today : The Sundries Shack

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:55:17 +0000

[...] Giuliani is is taking on the socialists. I had prostate cancer, five, six years ago. My chance of surviving prostate cancer, and thank God [...]

By: Agrippa2k

Agrippa2k — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:50:39 +0000

Ok, so when “liberals” site “not-for profits” that contradict “government” sources – it is scripture, because “the man” always lies.

But, when “conservatives/republicans” site “not-for profits”, the “government” sources are who we should believe?

Not that I don’t doubt your “GOOGLE” search has been fruitful, but why would you so quickly defer to the UK system for “truth”…

Basic journalism question (not from GOOGLE) – “What does the “not-for profit have to say about the discrepancy?” I bet it goes something like – “Dude those socialist, incompetents, are just trying to cover their arse!”

By: Gatordoug

Gatordoug — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:38:39 +0000

I expect Democrats to make up numbers not Republicans! Sheesh!

By: aero

aero — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:21:47 +0000

Update: Embarrassing. You’re going to put out an ad on one of the two or three hottest domestic issues of the campaign and have your numbers be off by 30%

Well, shoot. I hate it when my candidate makes me regret cheering for him. Oh, well. The only one running a “flawless campaign” is Hillary.

By: ThackerAgency

ThackerAgency — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:08:08 +0000

Thanks for the link palefaced! I will use it as an important resource for my blog and have added it to my blog archive. I’m coming out of the dark ages on my knowledge of the ‘blogosphere’. Thank you HotAir and MM. I may be able to contribute to society after all. I’m still learning.

By: palefaced

palefaced — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:31:49 +0000

http://www.freemarketcure.com./
i believe i picked this up from someone here on HA. rather lengthy reads, a few videos as well. seems pretty clear to me that we dont need the govts hand in health care.

By: Fogpig

Fogpig — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:19:58 +0000

This can be solved so easily by any of the Repub candidates. Simply ask Hillary if her “Universal Health Care” legislation would preclude the medical benefits of all branches of government. If every member of Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of government would have to accept the same health care that they’re trying to shove down our throats, then there’d be no discussion about this at all.

So, c’mon Rudy, Fred, Mitt, ask her: “Senator, would YOU and your family accept this program in lieu of the benefits that you currently receive?”

That’ll shut’r up.

-FatOldGuy

By: JayHaw Phrenzie

JayHaw Phrenzie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:05:49 +0000

Also, I am shocked, incredibly shocked that the officia British Government numbers make sociailized medicine look better thanan independant study from a non profit group.

No chance of spin from the British Governement, right?

By: JayHaw Phrenzie

JayHaw Phrenzie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:03:01 +0000

axception=exception

By: JayHaw Phrenzie

JayHaw Phrenzie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:02:41 +0000

Hopefully when Hillary signs the fairness doctorine there will be an axception for blogs.

By: Allahpundit

Allahpundit — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:55:21 +0000

Must be enough to buy an iphone from the way you keep taking shots at the only Republican that can beat her.

Sorry for not being a shill who’ll mindlessly defend our guys when they’re lying to us to our faces.

By: JayHaw Phrenzie

JayHaw Phrenzie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:52:49 +0000

Another day, another shot from the big “A” at Rudy.

How much do you have bet on the glacier winning? Must be enough to buy an iphone from the way you keep taking shots at the only Republican that can beat her.

By: ukgoods

ukgoods — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:38:02 +0000

I have relatives who live in England and trust me the NHS is worse than they say. Most of our friends and family purchase private health insurance rather than rely on the NHS. Their cancer rates are TERRIBLE. Sometimes it takes 6 months or longer to get an appointment for an MRI or PET Scan. Many patients die before they have these tests. I don’t think those figures are included in the official NHS numbers because the patient has never actually been “treated” for cancer.

I wouldn’t trust the official NHS numbers farther than I could throw them.

Also, as for FREE health care. The value address tax (VAT) is 17 1/4%. This is added onto everything but food in the supermarket including services (like plumbers, accountants, etc). Petrol is more than $7.00 per gallon. It costs $2 per ten minutes to park on a meter in London.

In order words, there is no free lunch.

By: Resolute

Resolute — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:32:36 +0000

The question, per this National Post article about “medical tourism” up north, is whether suffering Canadians who don’t want to wait for government health care while they’re in pain are in worse shape than suffering Americans who can’t afford U.S. care in the first place:

Lets see, choose to be
A)alive, but with a medical bill I cant possibly pay or
B)dead with my medical bills all paid up

why is socialized care better again?

By: Hollowpoint

Hollowpoint — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:19:57 +0000

Rudy’s a strong communicator. He makes his case and he makes it clearly, concisely, and unapologetically. He would be a refreshing change from Bush’s hesitant communication style. I doubt Rudy would fail to take his case to the American people on important issues, like Bush does time and time again.

aero on October 29, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Yeah, I’m sure he’d do a good job explaining why he’d enact a new gun ban and give amnesty and benefits to illegals.