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	<title>Comments on: Spitzer accused of betraying people who shouldn&#8217;t be here in the first place</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Illegal aliens scream at Eliot Spitzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Illegal aliens scream at Eliot Spitzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NY Dem Governor Eliot Spitzer tried to appease the open-borders lobby. He outraged law-abiding New Yorkers and failed to feed the pro-illegal immigration beast to its satisfaction. Everyone&#8217;s feeling betrayed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NY Dem Governor Eliot Spitzer tried to appease the open-borders lobby. He outraged law-abiding New Yorkers and failed to feed the pro-illegal immigration beast to its satisfaction. Everyone&#8217;s feeling betrayed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ctmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what kind of testing is perfomed for this license?  Will they have to read english, so they can understand our street signs.  What a dumb idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what kind of testing is perfomed for this license?  Will they have to read english, so they can understand our street signs.  What a dumb idea!</p>
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		<title>By: landlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>landlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next up in New York:

Medical Licenses for phony doctors...

Uniforms and badges for phony police and firemen...

It&#039;s all insane!!!  There should be a basic competency  exam for anyone who runs for public office.  First three questions:

1. What is a country?  How do you know which country you are in?

2. What is a citizen?  What is the difference between a citizen and a non-citizen?

3. When someone is shooting at you, and/or stealing your stuff, is he a friend or an enemy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next up in New York:</p>
<p>Medical Licenses for phony doctors&#8230;</p>
<p>Uniforms and badges for phony police and firemen&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all insane!!!  There should be a basic competency  exam for anyone who runs for public office.  First three questions:</p>
<p>1. What is a country?  How do you know which country you are in?</p>
<p>2. What is a citizen?  What is the difference between a citizen and a non-citizen?</p>
<p>3. When someone is shooting at you, and/or stealing your stuff, is he a friend or an enemy?</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;compelling them to drive with forged or no licenses and without insurance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm....let me see if I have this right, this change in Spitzer&#039;s plan would cause illegals to drive with forged licenses and without insurance?

Well isn&#039;t that a news flash Ms. Obvious of the NY ACLU, well I got more news for ya you mental giant, legals and illegals have been driving here in Arizona without insurance for many years now!  That&#039;s why my insurance rates went up considerably when I moved from Cal to AZ!  Hell, in just the last 2 years alone I had my Harley hit and my truck hit by illegals without insurance!

Seriously, do they really think giving illegals a drivers license will ensure they maintain insurance and won&#039;t get other forged documents like say a social security card?!?!?!?!

&lt;strong&gt;PLEASE, IF THIS WEREN&#039;T SO ABSURD I&#039;D BE LAUGHING....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>compelling them to drive with forged or no licenses and without insurance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;.let me see if I have this right, this change in Spitzer&#8217;s plan would cause illegals to drive with forged licenses and without insurance?</p>
<p>Well isn&#8217;t that a news flash Ms. Obvious of the NY ACLU, well I got more news for ya you mental giant, legals and illegals have been driving here in Arizona without insurance for many years now!  That&#8217;s why my insurance rates went up considerably when I moved from Cal to AZ!  Hell, in just the last 2 years alone I had my Harley hit and my truck hit by illegals without insurance!</p>
<p>Seriously, do they really think giving illegals a drivers license will ensure they maintain insurance and won&#8217;t get other forged documents like say a social security card?!?!?!?!</p>
<p><strong>PLEASE, IF THIS WEREN&#8217;T SO ABSURD I&#8217;D BE LAUGHING&#8230;.BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! </strong></p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”The separate licenses could also serve as an invitation for law enforcement to arrest anyone carrying one on immigration charges, said Donna Lieberman...&quot;

Well, DUH!

And why is this as bad thing, you stupid libby-dem cow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”The separate licenses could also serve as an invitation for law enforcement to arrest anyone carrying one on immigration charges, said Donna Lieberman&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, DUH!</p>
<p>And why is this as bad thing, you stupid libby-dem cow?</p>
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		<title>By: StuLongIsland</title>
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		<dc:creator>StuLongIsland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words President Bush&#039;s employee who represents the President of the U.S. approved in President Bush&#039;s behalf the right for illegal aliens to have drivers licenses. Geez, If it weren&#039;t for Kerry running, I might want to take my vote back.

How do the other candidates, really stand on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words President Bush&#8217;s employee who represents the President of the U.S. approved in President Bush&#8217;s behalf the right for illegal aliens to have drivers licenses. Geez, If it weren&#8217;t for Kerry running, I might want to take my vote back.</p>
<p>How do the other candidates, really stand on this?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cry me a river.  Preferably a deeper, wider Rio Grande river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cry me a river.  Preferably a deeper, wider Rio Grande river.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One:

&lt;strong&gt;Enforce the existing laws&lt;/strong&gt;.

Attrition of illegals who cannot get jobs or drivers&#039; licenses will send them home to fix their own country.

And temporary green-carded labor, for seasonal work, can be brought in, through a security-regulated process, as needed.

Two:

&lt;strong&gt;Secure the borders&lt;/strong&gt;.

Three:

&lt;strong&gt;Start a Manhattan Project for Energy Independence&lt;/strong&gt;.

We undermine our nation by being too tightly tied to foreign despotisms via an economy fixated on oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One:</p>
<p><strong>Enforce the existing laws</strong>.</p>
<p>Attrition of illegals who cannot get jobs or drivers&#8217; licenses will send them home to fix their own country.</p>
<p>And temporary green-carded labor, for seasonal work, can be brought in, through a security-regulated process, as needed.</p>
<p>Two:</p>
<p><strong>Secure the borders</strong>.</p>
<p>Three:</p>
<p><strong>Start a Manhattan Project for Energy Independence</strong>.</p>
<p>We undermine our nation by being too tightly tied to foreign despotisms via an economy fixated on oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s hoping someone FOIA&#039;s the docs relating to the negiotations between DHS and NYS, with a special request for those documents that have names of Clinton, Schumer and/or any of their staff on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s hoping someone FOIA&#8217;s the docs relating to the negiotations between DHS and NYS, with a special request for those documents that have names of Clinton, Schumer and/or any of their staff on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wuptdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wuptdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the big deal here.  In North Carolina, former AG Mike &quot;Tax Hike&quot; Easley, now Governor has arranged from driver&#039;s licenses for years for illegal.  If you life on the East Coast and are killed by an illegal alien driver, chances are, s/he got their license in North &quot;we will kill you&quot; Carolina.  

A big thank you to &quot;Tax Hike&quot; Mike and our state Democratic Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the big deal here.  In North Carolina, former AG Mike &#8220;Tax Hike&#8221; Easley, now Governor has arranged from driver&#8217;s licenses for years for illegal.  If you life on the East Coast and are killed by an illegal alien driver, chances are, s/he got their license in North &#8220;we will kill you&#8221; Carolina.  </p>
<p>A big thank you to &#8220;Tax Hike&#8221; Mike and our state Democratic Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was still upset by the state’s decision to license illegals.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope no one really believes that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was still upset by the state’s decision to license illegals.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope no one really believes that.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you go by the evidence, the Bush administration is more concerned with alleviating the shadows to keep the price of lettuce down than with compelling anyone to follow immigration law by “fear-mongering” or any other means. But he’s become so hated on the left that he’s now an all-purpose boogeyman, even when he’s on their side. Change sides often enough and pretty soon both sides hate you equally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly so, Bryan. These statements infuriate me because they are an outright lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you go by the evidence, the Bush administration is more concerned with alleviating the shadows to keep the price of lettuce down than with compelling anyone to follow immigration law by “fear-mongering” or any other means. But he’s become so hated on the left that he’s now an all-purpose boogeyman, even when he’s on their side. Change sides often enough and pretty soon both sides hate you equally.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly so, Bryan. These statements infuriate me because they are an outright lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Mcguyver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;To all the stupid idiots:&lt;/strong&gt; Eliot Spitzers, Chung-Wha Hongs, Lettuce-for-Chertoffs, Bushie butt kissers, et al, of the world.

This problem is &lt;em&gt;really very simple to solve&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;oops&lt;/em&gt; did I say simple?
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;If only&lt;/em&gt; they would follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/auto/frvp.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Texas&#039;s lead&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The State of Texas is implementing a new technology program that will allow law enforcement officers and designated state users to immediately verify whether a person has car insurance.  &lt;strong&gt;The days of fraudulent or false proof of automobile insurance cards and dropping insurance coverage after receiving a valid insurance card are numbered!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.
.

That and implementing the penalty of the:
 &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegeneral.com/auto-insurance/texas.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Texas law &lt;/a&gt;which provides severe penalties for violating the state&#039;s financial responsibility laws. A first conviction will result in a fine between $175 and $350. Subsequent convictions could result in fines of $350 to $1,000, &lt;strong&gt;suspension of your driver&#039;s license, and impoundment of your automobile.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And by the way, many autos have been towed as a result, especially in the first year (2006) when it was implemented.  So much so that towing yards were being filled to the brim with them, and as a result of the demand, &lt;strong&gt;were charging inflated storage fees!&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Whoopie!&lt;/strong&gt; 
THAT LOWERS THE COST OF OUR INSURANCE!
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insurancejournal.com/magazines/west/2003/08/18/coverstory/31590.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recently&lt;/a&gt;, insurers raised the rates for the uninsured motorist portions of Texas auto insurance by 23.5 percent, a bigger increase than in any other category.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.
.
..........NOT MENTION IT MAKES OUR ROADS SAFER:
This from the insurance journals website:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insurancejournal.com/magazines/west/2003/08/18/coverstory/31590.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The comptroller&#039;s report&lt;/a&gt; supported the use of an electronic database as well. It noted that an electronic &quot;database that can match insurance coverage with motor vehicle registration records, coupled with effective enforcement and meaningful penalties, can reduce the number of uninsured vehicles significantly. &lt;strong&gt;Utah reduced its percentage of uninsured motor vehicles from 23 percent in 1995 to 9 percent in 1999. Nevada reduced its percentage from 25 percent in 1993 to 5 percent in 1996&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;ONCE AGAIN,&lt;/em&gt; these idiots are making it difficult for me to just leave my chair and go enjoy the beautiful fall day here San Antonio, Texas!

SCREW THEM!

I&#039;M SO OUT&#039;A HERE!

Ciao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>To all the stupid idiots:</strong> Eliot Spitzers, Chung-Wha Hongs, Lettuce-for-Chertoffs, Bushie butt kissers, et al, of the world.</p>
<p>This problem is <em>really very simple to solve</em>, <em>oops</em> did I say simple?<br />
<strong><em>If only</em> they would follow <a href="http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/auto/frvp.html" rel="nofollow">Texas&#8217;s lead</a>:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>The State of Texas is implementing a new technology program that will allow law enforcement officers and designated state users to immediately verify whether a person has car insurance.  <strong>The days of fraudulent or false proof of automobile insurance cards and dropping insurance coverage after receiving a valid insurance card are numbered!</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>.<br />
.</p>
<p>That and implementing the penalty of the:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.thegeneral.com/auto-insurance/texas.html" rel="nofollow">Texas law </a>which provides severe penalties for violating the state&#8217;s financial responsibility laws. A first conviction will result in a fine between $175 and $350. Subsequent convictions could result in fines of $350 to $1,000, <strong>suspension of your driver&#8217;s license, and impoundment of your automobile.</strong> </p></blockquote>
<p>And by the way, many autos have been towed as a result, especially in the first year (2006) when it was implemented.  So much so that towing yards were being filled to the brim with them, and as a result of the demand, <strong>were charging inflated storage fees!</strong></p>
<p><strong>Whoopie!</strong><br />
THAT LOWERS THE COST OF OUR INSURANCE!</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.insurancejournal.com/magazines/west/2003/08/18/coverstory/31590.htm" rel="nofollow">Recently</a>, insurers raised the rates for the uninsured motorist portions of Texas auto insurance by 23.5 percent, a bigger increase than in any other category.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>.<br />
.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.NOT MENTION IT MAKES OUR ROADS SAFER:<br />
This from the insurance journals website:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.insurancejournal.com/magazines/west/2003/08/18/coverstory/31590.htm" rel="nofollow">The comptroller&#8217;s report</a> supported the use of an electronic database as well. It noted that an electronic &#8220;database that can match insurance coverage with motor vehicle registration records, coupled with effective enforcement and meaningful penalties, can reduce the number of uninsured vehicles significantly. <strong>Utah reduced its percentage of uninsured motor vehicles from 23 percent in 1995 to 9 percent in 1999. Nevada reduced its percentage from 25 percent in 1993 to 5 percent in 1996</strong>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>ONCE AGAIN,</em> these idiots are making it difficult for me to just leave my chair and go enjoy the beautiful fall day here San Antonio, Texas!</p>
<p>SCREW THEM!</p>
<p>I&#8217;M SO OUT&#8217;A HERE!</p>
<p>Ciao.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an arrogant ass this man is. When he controlled Grand Jury and the taxing authorities the press did his bidding. Now that he stands alone, all can see for themselves that this dullard thinks he is a deep thinker. He is an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an arrogant ass this man is. When he controlled Grand Jury and the taxing authorities the press did his bidding. Now that he stands alone, all can see for themselves that this dullard thinks he is a deep thinker. He is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: William Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071028/ap_en_tv/ap_on_tv_driving_with_dobbs_2

Lou Dobbs makes Spitzer nightly pinata By LARRY McSHANE, Associated Press Writer 

NEW YORK - Lou Dobbs is sorry about calling Gov. Eliot Spitzer an idiot. 
 
Sincerely. As for ripping the New York Democrat as arrogant, spineless and &quot;a spoiled rich kid brat,&quot; the host of CNN&#039;s &quot;Lou Dobbs Tonight&quot; stands by those nationally broadcast broadsides.

Absolutely.

Dobbs has made Spitzer an almost daily target over his recent plan to ease restrictions on illegal immigrants seeking New York state driver&#039;s licenses, mixing vitriol with sarcasm while endlessly lambasting the governor&#039;s decision.

The lifelong Republican has taken on politicians of every stripe, as when he blasted the Bush administration over port security. But his nightly diatribe against Spitzer is notable for its intensity, and for elevating a state proposal onto the national stage.

&quot;What he&#039;s doing is an outrageous, arrogant abuse of power,&quot; Dobbs said in an interview before a recent show. &quot;He&#039;s pandering to a constituency aligned directly against the interests of U.S. and New York state citizens.&quot;

Dobbs&#039;s ire boiled over Tuesday night when he ripped Spitzer as an idiot — and then offered an on-air mea culpa.

&quot;I&#039;m the idiot,&quot; Dobbs said. &quot;Governor, I apologize for calling you one. Your policies are idiotic. But I have to apologize for calling you an idiot.&quot;

Dobbs shouldn&#039;t hold his breath waiting for a bouquet of roses (the state flower) and a thank-you note from Spitzer.

&quot;Mr. Dobbs has clearly demonstrated that he is not interested in a real debate on New York&#039;s driver&#039;s license policy change,&quot; said Jennifer Givner, a Spitzer spokeswoman. &quot;He has repeatedly refused to offer balanced coverage of the issue.&quot;

Dobbs has turned the first-term governor into a verbal pinata over his September announcement that illegal immigrants with valid foreign passports could obtain a driver&#039;s license.

Spitzer has said the plan, set to go into effect this December, would make New York safer by bringing its 1 million illegal immigrants &quot;out of the shadows.&quot;

On Saturday, Spitzer cut a deal with the Bush administration that would still allow the state to issue licenses to illegal immigrants — although the agreement required that their licenses would be clearly marked to indicate they are not valid federal ID.

While advocates on either side of the flap said Spitzer had backed down, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was still upset by the state&#039;s decision to license illegals.

The Spitzer decision reversed a 2002 order by former Gov. George Pataki issued after the 9/11 attacks, and placed Spitzer directly in Dobbs&#039; cable crosshairs. But Dobbs, while perhaps the highest-profile critics of the plan, is not alone: a state poll showed 72 percent of New Yorkers opposed Spitzer on this issue, and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has also expressed skepticism.

Spitzer, in a speech last week, noted that &quot;despite the hysteria this policy has created in some circles, it is simply a return to the policy we had for most of our state&#039;s history.&quot;

Dobbs is hardly swayed by the history lesson, complaining the relaxed license requirement could produce voter fraud and raise security issues. Spitzer has ignored repeated invitations to appear on the program, Dobbs said; the show has turned down guests supporting Spitzer, including former national counterterrorism adviser Richard A. Clarke, according to Givner.

Dobbs, who has made immigration one of his show&#039;s centerpiece issues, was criticized this week in a New York Times editorial for his Spitzer bashing. 

&quot;Mr. Dobbs has trained his biggest guns on Mr. Spitzer, branding him with puerile epithets like `spoiled rich-kid brat&#039; and depicting his policy as some sort of sanctuary program for the 9/11 hijackers,&quot; the Times wrote. &quot;Someday there may be a calm debate, in Albany and nationally, about immigrant drivers. 

&quot;With Mr. Dobbs at the megaphone, for now there is only histrionics and outrage.&quot; 

Dobbs isn&#039;t expecting any apology from the Times. And he has few kind words for the newspaper. 

&quot;The New York Times is the house organ for Gov. Spitzer,&quot; Dobbs said. &quot;They&#039;re wrong on this issue, as they are on many others.&quot; 

Dobbs draws a nightly audience of roughly 800,000, making him second in CNN viewers to Larry King&#039;s nightly program. He has no intention of lightening up on Spitzer. 

&quot;Why should I?&quot; Dobbs asked. &quot;He&#039;s wrong. This issue is of vital importance to the state of New York and the nation. My job as an advocacy journalist is to confront directly abuses of power and wrongheaded politics.&quot; 

And sure enough, 24 hours after his &quot;idiot&quot; apology, Dobbs was again taking shots at Spitzer. 

&quot;This governor is irresponsible,&quot; Dobbs told his audience. &quot;It&#039;s clear arrogance. ... He has declared himself to be what people hoped he would not be — and that is an arrogant tool of special interests.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071028/ap_en_tv/ap_on_tv_driving_with_dobbs_2" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071028/ap_en_tv/ap_on_tv_driving_with_dobbs_2</a></p>
<p>Lou Dobbs makes Spitzer nightly pinata By LARRY McSHANE, Associated Press Writer </p>
<p>NEW YORK &#8211; Lou Dobbs is sorry about calling Gov. Eliot Spitzer an idiot. </p>
<p>Sincerely. As for ripping the New York Democrat as arrogant, spineless and &#8220;a spoiled rich kid brat,&#8221; the host of CNN&#8217;s &#8220;Lou Dobbs Tonight&#8221; stands by those nationally broadcast broadsides.</p>
<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>Dobbs has made Spitzer an almost daily target over his recent plan to ease restrictions on illegal immigrants seeking New York state driver&#8217;s licenses, mixing vitriol with sarcasm while endlessly lambasting the governor&#8217;s decision.</p>
<p>The lifelong Republican has taken on politicians of every stripe, as when he blasted the Bush administration over port security. But his nightly diatribe against Spitzer is notable for its intensity, and for elevating a state proposal onto the national stage.</p>
<p>&#8220;What he&#8217;s doing is an outrageous, arrogant abuse of power,&#8221; Dobbs said in an interview before a recent show. &#8220;He&#8217;s pandering to a constituency aligned directly against the interests of U.S. and New York state citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dobbs&#8217;s ire boiled over Tuesday night when he ripped Spitzer as an idiot — and then offered an on-air mea culpa.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m the idiot,&#8221; Dobbs said. &#8220;Governor, I apologize for calling you one. Your policies are idiotic. But I have to apologize for calling you an idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dobbs shouldn&#8217;t hold his breath waiting for a bouquet of roses (the state flower) and a thank-you note from Spitzer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Dobbs has clearly demonstrated that he is not interested in a real debate on New York&#8217;s driver&#8217;s license policy change,&#8221; said Jennifer Givner, a Spitzer spokeswoman. &#8220;He has repeatedly refused to offer balanced coverage of the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dobbs has turned the first-term governor into a verbal pinata over his September announcement that illegal immigrants with valid foreign passports could obtain a driver&#8217;s license.</p>
<p>Spitzer has said the plan, set to go into effect this December, would make New York safer by bringing its 1 million illegal immigrants &#8220;out of the shadows.&#8221;</p>
<p>On Saturday, Spitzer cut a deal with the Bush administration that would still allow the state to issue licenses to illegal immigrants — although the agreement required that their licenses would be clearly marked to indicate they are not valid federal ID.</p>
<p>While advocates on either side of the flap said Spitzer had backed down, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was still upset by the state&#8217;s decision to license illegals.</p>
<p>The Spitzer decision reversed a 2002 order by former Gov. George Pataki issued after the 9/11 attacks, and placed Spitzer directly in Dobbs&#8217; cable crosshairs. But Dobbs, while perhaps the highest-profile critics of the plan, is not alone: a state poll showed 72 percent of New Yorkers opposed Spitzer on this issue, and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has also expressed skepticism.</p>
<p>Spitzer, in a speech last week, noted that &#8220;despite the hysteria this policy has created in some circles, it is simply a return to the policy we had for most of our state&#8217;s history.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dobbs is hardly swayed by the history lesson, complaining the relaxed license requirement could produce voter fraud and raise security issues. Spitzer has ignored repeated invitations to appear on the program, Dobbs said; the show has turned down guests supporting Spitzer, including former national counterterrorism adviser Richard A. Clarke, according to Givner.</p>
<p>Dobbs, who has made immigration one of his show&#8217;s centerpiece issues, was criticized this week in a New York Times editorial for his Spitzer bashing. </p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Dobbs has trained his biggest guns on Mr. Spitzer, branding him with puerile epithets like `spoiled rich-kid brat&#8217; and depicting his policy as some sort of sanctuary program for the 9/11 hijackers,&#8221; the Times wrote. &#8220;Someday there may be a calm debate, in Albany and nationally, about immigrant drivers. </p>
<p>&#8220;With Mr. Dobbs at the megaphone, for now there is only histrionics and outrage.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dobbs isn&#8217;t expecting any apology from the Times. And he has few kind words for the newspaper. </p>
<p>&#8220;The New York Times is the house organ for Gov. Spitzer,&#8221; Dobbs said. &#8220;They&#8217;re wrong on this issue, as they are on many others.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dobbs draws a nightly audience of roughly 800,000, making him second in CNN viewers to Larry King&#8217;s nightly program. He has no intention of lightening up on Spitzer. </p>
<p>&#8220;Why should I?&#8221; Dobbs asked. &#8220;He&#8217;s wrong. This issue is of vital importance to the state of New York and the nation. My job as an advocacy journalist is to confront directly abuses of power and wrongheaded politics.&#8221; </p>
<p>And sure enough, 24 hours after his &#8220;idiot&#8221; apology, Dobbs was again taking shots at Spitzer. </p>
<p>&#8220;This governor is irresponsible,&#8221; Dobbs told his audience. &#8220;It&#8217;s clear arrogance. &#8230; He has declared himself to be what people hoped he would not be — and that is an arrogant tool of special interests.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it will be spring now before Chertoff rolls out his plan for the US to accept those handwritten unlaminated Mexican DLs with no photo as valid anywhere in the US.  This should appease the open society crowd because anyone can buy one in any name at most flea markets.  Sadly NY&#039;s SDL is worth about the same these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it will be spring now before Chertoff rolls out his plan for the US to accept those handwritten unlaminated Mexican DLs with no photo as valid anywhere in the US.  This should appease the open society crowd because anyone can buy one in any name at most flea markets.  Sadly NY&#8217;s SDL is worth about the same these days.</p>
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		<title>By: fred5678</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred5678</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is looking better all the time! The unprincipled, flip-flopping Governor may have accidentally drawn national attention to the hypocrisy of &quot;licensing&quot; illegal aliens and also helped to identify them! I expect this FUBAR by Spitzer to hone the country&#039;s debate on illegal aliens. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The separate licenses could also serve as an invitation for law enforcement to arrest anyone carrying one on immigration charges, said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;More than a dozen of the county clerks — who operate the Department of Motor Vehicles’ offices upstate — had said they would not carry out the earlier plan, some vowing to report to the local sheriff license applicants who could not prove residency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Prediction: Expect a Tancredo campaign visit to NY to pound on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is looking better all the time! The unprincipled, flip-flopping Governor may have accidentally drawn national attention to the hypocrisy of &#8220;licensing&#8221; illegal aliens and also helped to identify them! I expect this FUBAR by Spitzer to hone the country&#8217;s debate on illegal aliens. </p>
<blockquote><p>The separate licenses could also serve as an invitation for law enforcement to arrest anyone carrying one on immigration charges, said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>More than a dozen of the county clerks — who operate the Department of Motor Vehicles’ offices upstate — had said they would not carry out the earlier plan, some vowing to report to the local sheriff license applicants who could not prove residency.</p></blockquote>
<p>Prediction: Expect a Tancredo campaign visit to NY to pound on this.</p>
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		<title>By: PaKeystoner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get really angry at the politicians.
What part of &quot;ILLEGAL&quot; don&#039;t they understand?

If I break a law, do I get off because it is only
illegal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get really angry at the politicians.<br />
What part of &#8220;ILLEGAL&#8221; don&#8217;t they understand?</p>
<p>If I break a law, do I get off because it is only<br />
illegal?</p>
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		<title>By: fred5678</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop at a license to drive for illegal aliens?? Why not golf??

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mayor Gavin Newsom has been resolute in defending San Francisco&#039;s sanctuary status, and on Thursday his spokesman said Newsom supports Ammiano&#039;s idea for a card, which could be used for libraries, golf courses, public transportation and other services.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/07/BAUAS0O6Q.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Golf in San Francisco.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop at a license to drive for illegal aliens?? Why not golf??</p>
<blockquote><p>Mayor Gavin Newsom has been resolute in defending San Francisco&#8217;s sanctuary status, and on Thursday his spokesman said Newsom supports Ammiano&#8217;s idea for a card, which could be used for libraries, golf courses, public transportation and other services.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/07/BAUAS0O6Q.DTL" rel="nofollow">Golf in San Francisco.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessee Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Spitzer accused of betraying people who shouldn’t be here in the first place&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While they&#039;re at it, why don&#039;t they go down to Gitmo and give all those in detention a license.  That way when the Dems close it they&#039;ll all ready have IDs and will be able to assimilate into society better. 
Then New York can also set up branch DMV offices in every country around the world and hand them out.  That way when they sneak into the country, they may still be illegal, but they won&#039;t be undocumented.</description>
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<p>While they&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t they go down to Gitmo and give all those in detention a license.  That way when the Dems close it they&#8217;ll all ready have IDs and will be able to assimilate into society better.<br />
Then New York can also set up branch DMV offices in every country around the world and hand them out.  That way when they sneak into the country, they may still be illegal, but they won&#8217;t be undocumented.</p>
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		<title>By: Iblis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Having a Chinese(?) spokesperson is a litle unusual - her constituency didn’t just “walk across the border to support their family.” They paid big time for tickets and smugglers, and know damn well they are invaders.

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Yeah, &lt;em&gt;Golden Venture&lt;/em&gt; anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Having a Chinese(?) spokesperson is a litle unusual &#8211; her constituency didn’t just “walk across the border to support their family.” They paid big time for tickets and smugglers, and know damn well they are invaders.</p>
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<p>Yeah, <em>Golden Venture</em> anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: More Heat over NY Licenses for Illegals at Traction Control</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Heat over NY Licenses for Illegals at Traction Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Governor Eliot Spitzer is taking more heat with his Licenses for Illegals position.  See story at HotAir.com via the Daily [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fred5678</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred5678</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She said having separate licenses would amount to a scarlet letter for illegal immigrants.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For once I agree with one of these illegal alien apologists. I wholeheartedly agree with her idea to have a scarlet &#039;I&#039; prominently displayed.

Having a Chinese(?) spokesperson is a litle unusual - her constituency didn&#039;t just &quot;walk across the border to support their family.&quot; They paid big time for tickets and smugglers, and know damn well they are invaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She said having separate licenses would amount to a scarlet letter for illegal immigrants.</p></blockquote>
<p>For once I agree with one of these illegal alien apologists. I wholeheartedly agree with her idea to have a scarlet &#8216;I&#8217; prominently displayed.</p>
<p>Having a Chinese(?) spokesperson is a litle unusual &#8211; her constituency didn&#8217;t just &#8220;walk across the border to support their family.&#8221; They paid big time for tickets and smugglers, and know damn well they are invaders.</p>
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		<title>By: StuLongIsland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Licenses today, voting registration tomorrow. Bring your license as proof for voting registration. Why can&#039;t any mine the license list put on notice illegals who need to be deported who registered. If they use the information for other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Licenses today, voting registration tomorrow. Bring your license as proof for voting registration. Why can&#8217;t any mine the license list put on notice illegals who need to be deported who registered. If they use the information for other things.</p>
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