Anti-Israel sentiment is what unites ALL Ron Paul supporters. Some just want no foreign aid, but especially to Israel, while others believe Israel is the source of all evil including 9/11 and any other nutty conspiracy theory. I have yet to see a single RP supporter who isn’t crazed to some degree about the Jooooos.

Here’s one.

First: Israel does not equal Jews. Jews do not equal Israel. Israel is a country — a sovereign nation. Trying to equate opposition to our funding of the Israelis with anti-semitism is dishonest. So stop.

Ron Paul’s position on Israel (and mine) is that we should be neutral. Not neutral by arming the Israelis and arming their enemies, but neutral by minding our own business and washing our hands of that everlasting bloodbath. Israel can defend themselves. Even if they couldn’t, it’s not our job to defend them, especially since we’re the ones who are constantly funding and arming their enemies (Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Ladin, the Palestinians). Our current idea of “neutrality” is to fund and arm both sides. That’s insanity. How many wars do we have to fight where the enemy is using our money and our weapons to attack us (al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein and Iraqi insurgents) before we realize that our foreign policy is our own worst enemy?

Who do you think is hurt worse by a Paul 3rd party run? The Democrat nominee or the Republican?

Depends on how many lefties are willing so sacrifice all of their domestic agenda (health care, social programs, etc) to get out of Iraq. Probably not a lot. I don’t know a single Democrat/leftist who is supporting Ron Paul. Everyone I know who supports him is a Conservative Christian (and a handful of libertarians).

The 400 lb. gorilla in the room for all candidates is, would you stand with Israel or the Arabs? The answer would be chilling.

C. None of the above.

It will come to that and I’m very concerned where our government’s loyalties lies.

Here’s an idea: our government’s loyalties should lie with America, not a foreign nation or group.

People who would vote for Ron Paul, probably should be disenfranchised for their lack of mental competence or stability.

thuja on October 28, 2007 at 11:29 AM

haha. I think a Ron Paul 3rd party run would take more people away from the Democrats than the Republicans. Most truthers are Democrats, and for some reason I can’t see Skinheads going out to the polls on a regular basis for D or R.

Seems a little odd that this is the one candidate where people are focusing on his supporters rather than the candidate. Some of Hillary’s supporters are socialist nuts, but we’ll have to campaign against her, not her supporters in the general.

I can explain this.

Unfortunately, Hillary has a realistic shot at being POTUS; fortunately, Ron Paul does not.

Similarly, once his campaign crashes and burns, Ron Paul will fade back into obscurity. On the other hand, normal people will still have to deal with his supporters on a regular basis, mainly by denying them spare change on the street.

OK. I’m convinced. Actually, he looks a bit like my doctor. I like my doctor because he has small fingers.

RedWinged Blackbird on October 27, 2007 at 7:40 PM

Now that’s disturbingly funny.

He’s denied a thousand times that he’ll go independent — but do please note the nuance that’s crept into those denials of late.

Well, he has already done a third party run, and without being able to state the precise case, I believe that he has already decided on a third party run. Even now, he’s trying to attract Democrats in addition to Republicans. His front page of his website tells Democrats when they need to register Republican if they want to vote for him in the primary.

I see his third party run as all to the good. People who would vote for Ron Paul, probably should be disenfranchised for their lack of mental competence or stability. A Ron Paul candidacy achieves virtual disenfranchisement without government action. It’s truly the libertarian solution to fringy voters.
Even better, a Ron Paul candidate will suck up the attention that would go to a Christian theocrat candidate if they decide to run one against Giuliani (if he wins the Republican nomination).

- The Cat

Seems a little odd that this is the one candidate where people are focusing on his supporters rather than the candidate. Some of Hillary’s supporters are socialist nuts, but we’ll have to campaign against her, not her supporters in the general.

dedalus on October 28, 2007 at 1:29 AM

That’s a good observation.

Ron Paul supporters are a reactionary group with no ability to look at the larger picture. They exist within a bubble of impratical idealism not unlike the leftists.

Seems a little odd that this is the one candidate where people are focusing on his supporters rather than the candidate. Some of Hillary’s supporters are socialist nuts, but we’ll have to campaign against her, not her supporters in the general.

Anti Ron Paul nuts are just as insane as pro Ron Paul nuts! Same coin, different sides….

sweeper on October 27, 2007 at 10:05 PM

I’m curious to know what makes someone an anti Ron Paul nut. A large chunk of the pro Paul pack thinks 9/11 was an inside job, so do anti Paul nuts think it was 19 Muslims? A large chunk of the Paulbots wouldn’t mind it if Israel ceased to exist, so do anti Paul nuts want to keep Israel from being destroyed?

Please expand.

“He wants to get out of Iraq, pronto!”

“It removes stains, pronto!”

It also has that pale-hued 1980’s after-school special vibe. Especially with the moron college kids and the last line, “He’s catchin’ on, I’m telling ya!”

Is this guy a Presidential candidate or a toothpaste?!

Holy crap, that’s about the understatement of the century.
That tends to happen a lot with the mentally unstable, you know, especially among extremists.

bamapachyderm on October 27, 2007 at 9:52 PM

Anti-Israel sentiment is what unites ALL Ron Paul supporters

How to say this delicately….

If the United States were suddenly in an extremely serious crisis, which presidential candidate would you want to be president at that moment? Among Independents (Only included Republican candidates)

John McCain 17%
Rudy Giuliani 12%
Fred Thompson 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
Ron Paul 1%
Mitt Romney 0%

Paul doesn’t even score very high amongst independents with this question. With all the hype form Paulites, I would have thought he would have scored higher.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/102507_politics_release_web.pdf

Rudy Giuliani 31% (+2)
Fred Thompson 17% (+1)
John McCain 12% (even)
Mitt Romney 7% (-4)
Mike Huckabee 5% (even)
Duncan Hunter 3% (+2)
Tom Tancredo 2% (even)
Ron Paul 1% (-1)

tend to project their own viewpoints quite liberally

Holy crap, that’s about the understatement of the century.

That is a huge understand, I agree. And true of all candidates and their supporters I might add.

tend to project their own viewpoints quite liberally

Holy crap, that’s about the understatement of the century.
That tends to happen a lot with the mentally unstable, you know, especially among extremists.

has he ever smiled?

Splashman on October 27, 2007 at 7:27 PM

Maybe at the link bnelson44 spammed, but it was obviously not a spontaneous smile. At the debates, he is himself: an angry, bile-filled crank.

On to your second point…(Israel Israel Israel it’s all Israel’s fault, let the Arabs push them into the sea)

Anti-Israel sentiment is what unites ALL Ron Paul supporters. Some just want no foreign aid, but especially to Israel, while others believe Israel is the source of all evil including 9/11 and any other nutty conspiracy theory. I have yet to see a single RP supporter who isn’t crazed to some degree about the Jooooos.
It’s no wonder Stormfront, David Duke, Alex Jones, and virtually every other hateful extreme right or anarchist entity (and plenty of left-wingers as well) support Ron Paul.