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	<title>Comments on: TNR: Beauchamp called us without the Army goons around and stood by everything</title>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauchamp is now between a rock and a hard place with the Army. Given his sworn statements (regardless of Foer&#039;s supposed duress), if he backs up Foer now he&#039;s in it for lying in an official statement, and his newfound humility and desire to stick with his unit and serve faithfully will be seen as a continuing fraud perpetrated in his dream of becoming &quot;the next Hemingway&quot;.

He needs to plainly distance himself from TNR, and NOW, or he&#039;s toast. His wife should realize this, unless her loyalty is more to TNR than to Scott.

In any case, whether Beauchamp really does stand by his stories or not, they have been very clearly and decisively shown to be fabricated, embellished, or at the least very heavily distorted. That&#039;s something we&#039;d all be proud to stand by, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beauchamp is now between a rock and a hard place with the Army. Given his sworn statements (regardless of Foer&#8217;s supposed duress), if he backs up Foer now he&#8217;s in it for lying in an official statement, and his newfound humility and desire to stick with his unit and serve faithfully will be seen as a continuing fraud perpetrated in his dream of becoming &#8220;the next Hemingway&#8221;.</p>
<p>He needs to plainly distance himself from TNR, and NOW, or he&#8217;s toast. His wife should realize this, unless her loyalty is more to TNR than to Scott.</p>
<p>In any case, whether Beauchamp really does stand by his stories or not, they have been very clearly and decisively shown to be fabricated, embellished, or at the least very heavily distorted. That&#8217;s something we&#8217;d all be proud to stand by, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Lancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget that Foer has done as much lying as STB on this issue. Given his dogged refusal to recant the stories, it is not surprising at all that Foer would make up a fictional phone call that gave him exactly what he wanted to hear. Even given the deservedly low opinion of STB, I see no reason to believe that the phone call took place based merely on Foer&#039;s word. 
It would be great if STB came out with a pblic recantation, but it wouldn&#039;t make a difference. We don&#039;t believe his stories already, and the lefties will simply conclude that the Army forced the recantation and continue believing what they so fervently want to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that Foer has done as much lying as STB on this issue. Given his dogged refusal to recant the stories, it is not surprising at all that Foer would make up a fictional phone call that gave him exactly what he wanted to hear. Even given the deservedly low opinion of STB, I see no reason to believe that the phone call took place based merely on Foer&#8217;s word.<br />
It would be great if STB came out with a pblic recantation, but it wouldn&#8217;t make a difference. We don&#8217;t believe his stories already, and the lefties will simply conclude that the Army forced the recantation and continue believing what they so fervently want to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: SoulGlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoulGlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this.  The longer Franklin Foer and The New Republic shoot themselves in the foot, the sooner The New Republic will go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this.  The longer Franklin Foer and The New Republic shoot themselves in the foot, the sooner The New Republic will go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Beauchamp: The Saga Continues &#187; The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beauchamp: The Saga Continues &#187; The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bnelson44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnelson44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauchamp is an author of fiction who wanted to be published so badly that he submitted his fiction to a political commentary magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beauchamp is an author of fiction who wanted to be published so badly that he submitted his fiction to a political commentary magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauchamp is clearly a compulsive lier. I remember when I lived in the D.C. area (Northern Virginia) years ago reading an article about some guy who would lie about basically everything. I mean everything. If he was going to a Safeway store, he would say he was going to a Giant store. If he was going to Giant, he would say he was going to Safeway. I&#039;ll bet that if a little toggle in Beauchamp&#039;s head had tilted just a  little bit the other way he would have been telling some news outfit that he was an heroic Special Forces guy and wrote fantastic stories about his great exploits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beauchamp is clearly a compulsive lier. I remember when I lived in the D.C. area (Northern Virginia) years ago reading an article about some guy who would lie about basically everything. I mean everything. If he was going to a Safeway store, he would say he was going to a Giant store. If he was going to Giant, he would say he was going to Safeway. I&#8217;ll bet that if a little toggle in Beauchamp&#8217;s head had tilted just a  little bit the other way he would have been telling some news outfit that he was an heroic Special Forces guy and wrote fantastic stories about his great exploits.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That way he gets out of the army eventually, and can claim what Foer is claiming now, and TNR has the never ending investigation the whole time.

Keljeck on October 26, 2007 at 2:46 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right. Plus there&#039;s the whole issue with his wife not wanting him to recant, which may add further motivation to keep feeding lies to TNR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That way he gets out of the army eventually, and can claim what Foer is claiming now, and TNR has the never ending investigation the whole time.</p>
<p>Keljeck on October 26, 2007 at 2:46 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Right. Plus there&#8217;s the whole issue with his wife not wanting him to recant, which may add further motivation to keep feeding lies to TNR.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the time frame of this supposed unmonitored phone call is interesting.  The first was 7 Sep.  The second was about 15 days later, so about 22 Sept.

It certainly appears that Reeve was still working at TNR at the time of the first call. On 24 Sep, Mediabistro reported the Facebook comment on a blog by a friend of Beauchamp&#039;s that Elspeth had left TNR.

Under what possible scenarios would this have ocurred in so close proximity using (1) the premise Reeve left of her own accord and then (2) been fired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the time frame of this supposed unmonitored phone call is interesting.  The first was 7 Sep.  The second was about 15 days later, so about 22 Sept.</p>
<p>It certainly appears that Reeve was still working at TNR at the time of the first call. On 24 Sep, Mediabistro reported the Facebook comment on a blog by a friend of Beauchamp&#8217;s that Elspeth had left TNR.</p>
<p>Under what possible scenarios would this have ocurred in so close proximity using (1) the premise Reeve left of her own accord and then (2) been fired?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Beauchamp alert: The New Republic comes out from under its desk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Beauchamp alert: The New Republic comes out from under its desk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The bottom line from Bryan Preston&#8230; Foer can spin and twist his conversations with Beauchamp and various Army officers all he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Keljeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keljeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Missy on October 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmm.  Beauchamp&#039;s end goal in this, at least originally, was to become a writer.  Foer used that against him in the transcript.  Maybe he made the private call after, not expecting Foer to admit to having it?

That way he gets out of the army eventually, and can claim what Foer is claiming now, and TNR has the never ending investigation the whole time.

That makes sense.  He&#039;s an idiot, so I doubt he would realize that military transcripts can be requested, and there are people who would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Missy on October 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.  Beauchamp&#8217;s end goal in this, at least originally, was to become a writer.  Foer used that against him in the transcript.  Maybe he made the private call after, not expecting Foer to admit to having it?</p>
<p>That way he gets out of the army eventually, and can claim what Foer is claiming now, and TNR has the never ending investigation the whole time.</p>
<p>That makes sense.  He&#8217;s an idiot, so I doubt he would realize that military transcripts can be requested, and there are people who would.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Its front half was completely severed from its rear, which was twitching wildly, and its head was still raised and smiling at the sun as if nothing had happened at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You know...with all the other nonsensical crap he wrote, I never looked at the feasibility (or lack thereof) of this statement before.

What&#039;s the width of a Bradley track?  From photos it looks like it&#039;s about two feet wide. So...exactly how big are the dogs over there? I&#039;m thinking if the front half was pristine other than not being attached to the rest of the body, the back half would be completely crushed, not twitching wildly.  But if the front half was to have enough weight and balance to remain upright and smiling at the sun, and any of the back half was to have enough structural integrity to twitch wildly, that dog had to be about six or seven feet long before getting run over!

(Now if you&#039;ll just take a look at this model dog I made out of chicken wire....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Its front half was completely severed from its rear, which was twitching wildly, and its head was still raised and smiling at the sun as if nothing had happened at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>You know&#8230;with all the other nonsensical crap he wrote, I never looked at the feasibility (or lack thereof) of this statement before.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the width of a Bradley track?  From photos it looks like it&#8217;s about two feet wide. So&#8230;exactly how big are the dogs over there? I&#8217;m thinking if the front half was pristine other than not being attached to the rest of the body, the back half would be completely crushed, not twitching wildly.  But if the front half was to have enough weight and balance to remain upright and smiling at the sun, and any of the back half was to have enough structural integrity to twitch wildly, that dog had to be about six or seven feet long before getting run over!</p>
<p>(Now if you&#8217;ll just take a look at this model dog I made out of chicken wire&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnelson44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought he was French.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, ok, nevermind then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought he was French.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, ok, nevermind then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DANEgerus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANEgerus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like a
Foer by Foer
upside the head</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a<br />
Foer by Foer<br />
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Scott is Italian?

bnelson44 on October 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought he was French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Scott is Italian?</p>
<p>bnelson44 on October 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought he was French.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, which one is which?

baldilocks on October 26, 2007 at 2:36 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Army is the wife, TNR the mistress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, which one is which?</p>
<p>baldilocks on October 26, 2007 at 2:36 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The Army is the wife, TNR the mistress.</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonah linked &lt;a href=&quot;http://exurbanleague.com/2007/10/26/digging-for-foer.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; on The Corner to explain FF.  

Priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonah linked <a href="http://exurbanleague.com/2007/10/26/digging-for-foer.aspx" rel="nofollow">this</a> on The Corner to explain FF.  </p>
<p>Priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Clearly Beauchamp wants to stay in Iraq, for whatever reason. Why would he risk it by contradicting a signed statement with the Army to a member of the press?

Only Foer can gain from this, if only briefly, and with a small group of people.&lt;/i&gt;

Keljeck, I agree with your premises but not your conclusion. This is Sir Real Scott Thomas we&#039;re talking about here.  He&#039;s the moron that made up the stories and peddled them to TNR in the first place.  The Army might be able to pound some sense into him, but it&#039;s likely going to take longer than a few weeks.

Foer has big problems but, especially at this point in the game, he is not so stupid as to make up an entire phone call.  Everything we know about Beauchamp says he IS stupid enough to lie to TNR after coming clean with the Army.  

This entire narrative is about Beauchamp making up stuff to sell to TNR.  Hey, they bought it the first time, why not the second?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Clearly Beauchamp wants to stay in Iraq, for whatever reason. Why would he risk it by contradicting a signed statement with the Army to a member of the press?</p>
<p>Only Foer can gain from this, if only briefly, and with a small group of people.</i></p>
<p>Keljeck, I agree with your premises but not your conclusion. This is Sir Real Scott Thomas we&#8217;re talking about here.  He&#8217;s the moron that made up the stories and peddled them to TNR in the first place.  The Army might be able to pound some sense into him, but it&#8217;s likely going to take longer than a few weeks.</p>
<p>Foer has big problems but, especially at this point in the game, he is not so stupid as to make up an entire phone call.  Everything we know about Beauchamp says he IS stupid enough to lie to TNR after coming clean with the Army.  </p>
<p>This entire narrative is about Beauchamp making up stuff to sell to TNR.  Hey, they bought it the first time, why not the second?</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnelson44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Scott is Italian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.</p></blockquote>
<p>Scott is Italian?</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.
- Rudy Giulianai

MB4 on October 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Excellent metaphor, though I question the attribution. ;-)

However, which one is which?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.<br />
- Rudy Giulianai</p>
<p>MB4 on October 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent metaphor, though I question the attribution. ;-)</p>
<p>However, which one is which?</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He has put himself on the scene of a discovery that he recanted under oath. If he told Foer that he stands by his work, then he either lied to Foer or he lied to the Army under oath. It’s a binary choice, one or the other. Given the relative consequences of either action, which is the more likely?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.
- Rudy Giulianai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He has put himself on the scene of a discovery that he recanted under oath. If he told Foer that he stands by his work, then he either lied to Foer or he lied to the Army under oath. It’s a binary choice, one or the other. Given the relative consequences of either action, which is the more likely?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is not lying when a man tells his wife one thing and his mistress something entirely different.<br />
- Rudy Giulianai</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it looks like we have two possibilities:

1. Beauchamp never intended to recant his &quot;diarist&quot; and only issued his stern &quot;no comment&quot; under duress from his Army superiors.

2. Beauchamp did intend to recant his diarist, but for some reason (perhaps to protect his wife) told Foer that the Army essentially forced him to recant.

So even though we can say with reasonable certainty that the diarist was, shall we say, counter-factual, the issue of whether or not Beauchamp intended to recant is still unknown and unproven.  And frankly, given how badly the waters have been muddied at this point, this issue will likely never be resolved.  Lefities will always believe that the Army gestapo pressured Beauchamp, and we on the right will always assume that Beauchamp is a wannbe-Hemingway whose tall tales got away from him.

Either way, I don&#039;t think you can argue that Beauchamp is a world-class a-hole.  Either he hung TNR out to dry, or he hung the Army out to dry.  Tosser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it looks like we have two possibilities:</p>
<p>1. Beauchamp never intended to recant his &#8220;diarist&#8221; and only issued his stern &#8220;no comment&#8221; under duress from his Army superiors.</p>
<p>2. Beauchamp did intend to recant his diarist, but for some reason (perhaps to protect his wife) told Foer that the Army essentially forced him to recant.</p>
<p>So even though we can say with reasonable certainty that the diarist was, shall we say, counter-factual, the issue of whether or not Beauchamp intended to recant is still unknown and unproven.  And frankly, given how badly the waters have been muddied at this point, this issue will likely never be resolved.  Lefities will always believe that the Army gestapo pressured Beauchamp, and we on the right will always assume that Beauchamp is a wannbe-Hemingway whose tall tales got away from him.</p>
<p>Either way, I don&#8217;t think you can argue that Beauchamp is a world-class a-hole.  Either he hung TNR out to dry, or he hung the Army out to dry.  Tosser.</p>
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		<title>By: baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments section at the Plank is illuminating.  Like Foer, the Plank&#039;s readers are under the delusion that the Army owes &lt;em&gt;TNR&lt;/em&gt; an answer.  Additionally, there seem to be quite a few of them who are unfamiliar with the trackback/pingback concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments section at the Plank is illuminating.  Like Foer, the Plank&#8217;s readers are under the delusion that the Army owes <em>TNR</em> an answer.  Additionally, there seem to be quite a few of them who are unfamiliar with the trackback/pingback concept.</p>
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		<title>By: danking70</title>
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		<dc:creator>danking70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STB recanted his recantation with the Army two weeks later but don&#039;t tell the Army that.

STB is going to have to come forward now with a public statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STB recanted his recantation with the Army two weeks later but don&#8217;t tell the Army that.</p>
<p>STB is going to have to come forward now with a public statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob's Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob's Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a scientist by training, remember, and I know that when you have question you are asking (Given that TNR is not going to go gently into what really happened), your next move is to make a prediction, based on what you already know or can find out, on what will likely happen next if your prediction is correct.  Many here have made some very good predictions over the last few weeks about what TNR could possibly do if they are a) essentially morally bankrupt, b) will do anything to save face, and c) really want Beauchamp&#039;s stories to be true.

TNR has hit every single one of them square on the nose.  Can we move this whole kit and kaboodle up out of &quot;hypothesis&quot; range into &quot;theory&quot; territory yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a scientist by training, remember, and I know that when you have question you are asking (Given that TNR is not going to go gently into what really happened), your next move is to make a prediction, based on what you already know or can find out, on what will likely happen next if your prediction is correct.  Many here have made some very good predictions over the last few weeks about what TNR could possibly do if they are a) essentially morally bankrupt, b) will do anything to save face, and c) really want Beauchamp&#8217;s stories to be true.</p>
<p>TNR has hit every single one of them square on the nose.  Can we move this whole kit and kaboodle up out of &#8220;hypothesis&#8221; range into &#8220;theory&#8221; territory yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beauchamp *Did* Recant...&lt;/strong&gt;

He already confessed publicly to lying about the Burned Woman. This proves he lied about the other two incidents in &quot;Shock Troops&quot; as well: Read Bryan at Hot Air for comment on those. Foer&#039;s claim that Beauchamp did not recant......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Beauchamp *Did* Recant&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>He already confessed publicly to lying about the Burned Woman. This proves he lied about the other two incidents in &#8220;Shock Troops&#8221; as well: Read Bryan at Hot Air for comment on those. Foer&#8217;s claim that Beauchamp did not recant&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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