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posted at 11:00 pm on October 24, 2007 by Allahpundit
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“We need enchantment in our lives because our world has become disenchanted. We need faith that promises something bigger and better than what we have.”
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I don’t see much diference between witchcraft and atheism. Both are basically anti-God, with a belief that man is the center of all things, or worse, man is nothing. Pretty pathetic way to go through life, I think.
AZCON on October 24, 2007 at 11:11 PM
We need fewer nutjobs like Anne-Maria Makhulu.
infidel4life on October 24, 2007 at 11:13 PM
Makes sense to me.
no sarcasm tags
tlynch001 on October 24, 2007 at 11:14 PM
Ruh Roh here we go with the religious thread.
Bradky on October 24, 2007 at 11:14 PM
This reminds me of some people I work with who would say that Christianity is “boobism” (Matt Taibbi’s word) but assign all sorts of significance to Chinese and Indian spirituality etc etc. Going to church makes you a radical and a fool; thinking the earth is speaking to you through the river and the wind is enlightened.
Oh well. Maybe I should move.
BillLalor on October 24, 2007 at 11:15 PM
So basically, it sounds like poeple just need a hug, but also a good spanking as a kid whenever they act up or throw a tantrum like a liberal when ever they don’t get their way. Only then will they see that there is more to life than them. Infact, if they were disciplined as children, they probably wouldn’t grow up to be liberals!
El Guapo on October 24, 2007 at 11:16 PM
I think Modernity has sought to remove mystery, enchantment, the divine, whatever you want to call it. And why? We pretend that Modern humanity has all the answers, but do we? I don’t think so – and many begin to realize that the myth of unfettered human progress through intelligence and scientific method that Modernity has promised has not come to the fruition that we had all hoped. Modernity, for many, has disappointed.
And we begin to remember that, yeah, there might be something out there bigger than us – I happen to believe it is God.
nailinmyeye on October 24, 2007 at 11:16 PM
I disagree.
Witchcraft believes in something bigger than one’s self. It could be a sort of power that exists in connection to all things, it is more likely something in relation to the earth and nature. But I think that the point is that there is something “enchanted,” “mysterious,”something that humans can’t explain, in all of it.
Atheism, and, it may not be all atheism, but much of it, still relies on Modern suppositions of progress, scientific rationality, and human reason. These things are not, in and of themselves “bad.” In fact, I think that they are all good, and if we didn’t have these things, life would pretty much suck (science has made my life much more comfortable than those, say, before the Enlightenment). I just think that these things in isolation do not account for all that there is.
nailinmyeye on October 24, 2007 at 11:23 PM
How can you open a resturant without any eye of newt.
sunny on October 24, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Worry not. “I have a million ideas, but America can’t afford them all” – - Hillary Clinton
I could use a tiny bit of enchantment right now. Not even a half mile away from home about 150 homes burned yesterday, and tonight the winds are still, but shifting westward – the night is very critical. Area still evacuated. I’m still on a business trip, teaching and battling liberals who think “whites” and the “rich” are being treated well by the gov’t in Calif. It’s hard to concentrate, but work/live one must, and in miracles to believe one must too. This from a staunch realist.
Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:36 PM
nailinmyeye so how do atheists explain the unexplainable?
El Guapo on October 24, 2007 at 11:37 PM
You just had to make me do that!!!
MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 11:37 PM
Yes, but again…something’s missing.
Jaibones on October 24, 2007 at 11:38 PM
Leftists and liberals alike are attracted to witchcraft and similar animist-style beliefs because it fulfills the human desire for a belief in powerful forces to which one can seek guidance or help, but, unlike Christianity, and this is what they like so much, it seems to come without any morality, especially as it pertains to sexual matters. So, for a liberal, this is like the best of both worlds.
What they don’t understand, or won’t admit to themselves, is that this is merely the flip side of Christianity, the dark side.
jihadwatcher on October 24, 2007 at 11:39 PM
Nah, it was witchcraft :)
Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:39 PM
I used to think that, until i grew up and paid attention in class and adopted a hard work ethic. That is typical hate mentality. Hate or despise those who have what you want but do not have. All the while forgetting that everyone in their family history started out poor at some point and had to work to build their wealth.
El Guapo on October 24, 2007 at 11:41 PM
We do need something bigger and better then ourselves to believe in, its food for the soul.
But if you, you know, are Christian or Jewish, your just an idiot. That’s not food for the soul that’s a racist, sexist, homophobic belief that inspires nazis. Wiccan is much better :-p
Defector01 on October 24, 2007 at 11:42 PM
An object
in motionasleep will remainin motionasleep unless acted upon by anetprovocative force.Force equals
massinsult multiplied byaccelerationprovocation.- Newton
MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 11:44 PM
Liberals and leftists destroy the father figure. God, Jesus, and they replace dads with the government.
Liberalism IS a psychological disorder.
csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 11:45 PM
Do you believe in Magic, ina young girl’s heart!
Lovin Spoonful
Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:39 PM
You guys safe I trust. Nice to see you online!
Kini on October 24, 2007 at 11:46 PM
George Bush says he speaks to God every day, and Christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to God through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer would make it any more absurd.
- Somebody or other
MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 11:48 PM
Yikes, shoulda read all the posts.
Magic or faith, lets home intelligent design came through and all is safe.
As I wave my Harry Potter wand…. ;-)
Kini on October 24, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Not for Allahpundit! Not if he ever gets his iPod or iPhone anyway!
MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 11:51 PM
God created the Devil. So if you want to worship one of God’s creations and not the Creator Himself, go ahead. Seems foolish to me, but hey, I don’thear the voices in the rocks.
AZCON on October 24, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Yes, dear Kini. Thank you for your concern and your wishes from the other thread. Anything can happen still but it’s much worse for so many others. One very good first account item I can report is that some of my peers from the office in Carlsbad volunteered to help at the shelters and were turned away because so many other had saturated the system. They are now on a waiting list to be called later, if help is needed.
OT – it’s not witchcraft but a fact that nice people like you exist and are here on HA – how’s that for a good comeback? Best wishes to you, your lady and a good petting for the animals.
Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:54 PM
Yeah and dog crap doesn’t smell unless you step in it.
humans constantly try to balance emotion with logic, some are successful and others are liberals.
Speakup on October 24, 2007 at 11:56 PM
We can’t explain what is unexplainable and we can’t explain how anyone thinks that he can explain what is unexplainable, and in such detail
MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 11:57 PM
MB4
So why don’t I hear more people on the left saying that Ahmadinijad (however you spell that jihadi’s name) is mad regarding his statement that he felt and saw a devine light illuminate him when he spoke to the UN?
El Guapo on October 24, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Thanks for the laughs. Is MB4 the “somebody” or the “other”?
Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:59 PM
How can that be? I put garlic on my front door and back door and all my windows. Oh that’s right. Well no one has bitten me tonight anyway.
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Huh? Yeah, I’m gonna need some help bringing these two concepts together. Not getting it!
These people always make me nuts. Where do they come up with this crap? And how is a belief in magic equated to a desire to be equal? Don’t people want magic powers to be superior?
thedecider on October 25, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Well at least rocks aren’t invisible!
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:03 AM
That can happen next Wednesday. Watch out for Transylvanians who’s eyes turn red at midnight!
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 12:03 AM
I think you just (perhaps inadertantly) admitted to a devine being of some sort.
El Guapo on October 25, 2007 at 12:05 AM
The best point so far. The “religions” which purport no consequences for immorality, or which do not declare a difference between right and wrong, are always preferred by those who claim not to believe in the Christian God. Somehow, it makes them feel better.
thedecider on October 25, 2007 at 12:06 AM
All generalizations are false, including this one.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:07 AM
Don’t tell anyone else but it is getting tough for me to tell the difference anymore.
I have been assimilated. I am the Borg.
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:09 AM
No, not MB4. He’s been Catholic one night and atheist the next, depending on which argument was the better one to make. He’s a playful guy who’s items divine, to name some he’s mentioned, or displayed: good beer, beautiful women, fast cars, wit, Schopenhauer+,…
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 12:12 AM
You really do have a lot of faith.
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:12 AM
I have a very rare blood type and almost no cholesterol. My blood would be very unappealing to the creatures of the night.
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:15 AM
Finally someone who understands me!
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:17 AM
Enchantment – the author is right. End of argument.
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 12:22 AM
magic = socialism? What’s next, teh ghey wizzards? Oh, wait…
Rick on October 25, 2007 at 12:24 AM
*
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s secret MySpace entry:
*
Hi there fellow Islamic bloggers. My name is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and I am the great and fearless President of the Islamic Republic of Iran and soon to be the defacto President of Iraq too!
I was was born one of seven children to a humble blacksmith and when I was a child growing up I worked on a farm to earn extra money for my poor father and I got to know a lot of the farm animals very well. I was a real nature boy back then. I was a real animal lover. My favorites were the goats of course. I still have such fond memories of my boyhood.
Later I excelled as a student, earning my master’s degree and a Ph.D in civil engineering. I have only three wifes, but as the leader of such a great Islamic country and soon to be the dominate power in the Middle East I feel that it is time for me to take my fourth wife. If any nice Islamic ladies are reading this you should email me some time soon. You must be between the ages of 12 and 28 years old. If
you are under 12 that would be alright too but you must have a note from a male relative of course.
In addition to my important duties as the Great President of the Islamic Republic of Iran I am now working on my post graduate science project, which when completed in a very few years, I will test on Evil Israel and the Great Satin America.
Who I would like to meet … …
In addition to my fourth wife, and remember if you are under 12 years old, you must have a note from a male
relative, I would like to meet other dedicated members of the Great Religion of
SlaughterPeace, Islam of course. We can all get together after work and spend time reading inspiring passages from the Koran and comparing notes on our mutual love of farmanimals. We can also go over a list of priority test sites for my developing science project. It will be a blast! It will make much bigger holes than the one in New York that they did not let me visit!!!
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:25 AM
I just know what science cannot yet prove. Something or someone out there started this whole thing, and he/it in turn came from someone or something else, and so on, and so on. Because scientifically/theoretically speaking, nothing can never spawn something on its own. But eventually, you have to come to the true beginning. Maybe our universe is nothing than some kid’s science project shoved in a dark closet and forgotten about after his B+. Either way, there is still something or someone out there that started it all.
El Guapo on October 25, 2007 at 12:25 AM
“There is something about a Republican that you can only stand him just so long; and on the other hand, there is something about a Democrat that you can’t stand him quite that long.” —Will Rogers
Speakup on October 25, 2007 at 12:30 AM
It’s leftists exploiting the occasion of Halloween. Hot Heads gonna fall for that bait?
RushBaby on October 25, 2007 at 12:31 AM
RushBaby, no we’re not falling for any of it. We’re just keeping our thoughts distracted.
p.s. you’re as big an owl as AP :) Do you ever sleep?
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 12:37 AM
Why is it everytime we get on a religion topic,
all h!ll breaks loose,pardon the bad pun,if wickens,
witchcraft want to practice, so be it,atheists can beleive
what they want.
Lets not forget that the early settlers that left Europe
and came to the early United States,were doing so to escape
religious prosecution,if you want to see modern day spanish inquisition just look at Iran or the Taliban.
canopfor on October 25, 2007 at 12:37 AM
But then who started the something or someone out there that started it “all”?
A recursive infinite loop perhaps?
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 12:41 AM
I sleep after my country chores are done, I have read Hot Air, and sent my friends an email.
RushBaby on October 25, 2007 at 12:43 AM
As for Allah being an owl – it’s the pills from when he got his wisdom teeth pulled :)
Rick on October 25, 2007 at 12:47 AM
Dearest RushBaby, through the majic of modern technology carrotpeelers get sent through the wires :) You are a dear. Thank you for being so nice to all here. Love,
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 12:52 AM
Somebody better do a rewrite of the Bible quick! I guess God just doesn’t get it.
Mojave Mark on October 25, 2007 at 12:53 AM
Let’s not get all exorcised about this topic.
Wicca furniture is nice.
profitsbeard on October 25, 2007 at 1:02 AM
You’re amazing.
Folks, Entelechy=the Best of Humanity.
RushBaby on October 25, 2007 at 1:04 AM
Debbie Schlussel: HOTTT: These Men From Oklahoma Have Cojones
Several state lawmakers are returning copies of the Quran to a state panel on diversity after one lawmaker claimed the Muslim holy book condones the killing of innocent people.
In a letter to colleagues, state Representative Rex Duncan says “most Oklahomans do not endorse the idea of killing innocent women and children in the name of ideology.” At least 17 other legislators have notified the Governor’s Ethnic American Advisory Council that they too will return the gift.
BINGO! They Get It.
MB4 on October 25, 2007 at 1:14 AM
Good tidings. Thanks.
RushBaby on October 25, 2007 at 1:24 AM
It’s not that Wicca is a bad religion; it’s just most of its adherents are batcrap loony lefties who rarely bathe unless there is some group orgy happening afterwards.
Black Adam on October 25, 2007 at 1:35 AM
Haven’t they heard the preachings of one Albert Gore and global warming? Why waste the precious water?
Entelechy on October 25, 2007 at 1:53 AM
Well, at least the visible parts of ‘em.
soundingboard on October 25, 2007 at 1:54 AM
Rocks may be visible, but the stuff that makes up the rocks sure ain’t.
/strongnuclearforcesayswhat?
Besides, existence is irrespective of visibility. ex.: radio waves, neutrons, the world to a blind man.
Harpazo on October 25, 2007 at 2:01 AM
Rocks may be visible, but the stuff that makes up the rocks sure ain’t.
/strongnuclearforcesayswhat?
Besides, existence is irrespective of visibility. ex.: radio waves, neutrons, the world to a blind man.
Harpazo on October 25, 2007 at 2:01 AM
Are you kidding? Low cholesterol blood?
One would think that might be most appealing to a vampire who’s Uncle Vlad was a source of high cholesterol.
soundingboard on October 25, 2007 at 2:11 AM
Drat…
Forgot this…
Would a Crucifix be useless against the undead if wielded by an atheist?
Tosses MB4 a coupla oaken stakes and a hammer.
Watch ur toes!
soundingboard on October 25, 2007 at 2:16 AM
I know. I was just exploiting the occasion of AP’s “leftists exploiting Halloween” post to declare the inadequacy of Modernity to adequately explain all that it claims to. I love Modernity, but not without a healthy side of mysticism.
nailinmyeye on October 25, 2007 at 4:34 AM
Not surprising that a professor at Duke would ignore the obvious and jump to the wrong conclusions.
peacenprosperity on October 25, 2007 at 7:12 AM
Would I be terribly unfair if I suspected Ms. Makhulu of being one of the “Duke 88″?
After all, “Magical Thinking” was one of their main “talking points”.
As for “miracles”, my definition of one occurred at 4:17:41 PM (EDT), 20 July, 1969. In the Sea of Tranquility, not at Woodstock.
And we made that one ourselves, through science. Not mysticism.
cheers
eon
eon on October 25, 2007 at 8:11 AM
Heh. gonna steal this. thx.
JiangxiDad on October 25, 2007 at 8:49 AM
Kalam. Borrowed by Aquinas, strengthened immensely by Hubble, Gamow, Alpher, and Herman.
As to Wicca vs. other religions, I found this pretty funny.
angryoldfatman on October 25, 2007 at 9:06 AM
I can’t believe I just watched that.
nailinmyeye on October 25, 2007 at 11:58 AM
I miss Ayn Rand…. she would have a field day with this thread…….lol. Yeah I’m old enough to have heard her speak.
MNDavenotPC on October 25, 2007 at 12:07 PM
she’s a Duke University professor? nuf said…she’s a wack ‘o probably doesn’t like La Cross either. Is she Nifong’s neighbor or…
oldernslower on October 25, 2007 at 2:00 PM
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