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Earthquake: Brownback considering endorsing Giuliani?

posted at 10:26 pm on October 24, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Not so much an endorsement as a benediction.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) is considering endorsing Rudy Giuliani for the GOP presidential nomination and will meet with him Thursday in Washington to hear his views on abortion.

Brownback, who ended his White House run last week and is a champion of social conservative issues, said he would consider Giuliani because he had heard that the former New York City mayor had changed his position on partial-birth abortion and has pledged to appoint to the courts strict constructionists who would not overturn anti-abortion laws…

Ray Hoffmann, the state Republican chairman, said last month that Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) had assembled the biggest campaign operations in Iowa after Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is leading the GOP field in statewide polls. One Brownback adviser said that 45,000 Iowans had signed up as campaign supporters…

“It would be absolutely huge,” said Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University. “It would mean that Giuliani is getting support form a part of the Republican Party that has been hostile to him.

“Brownback is very well-respected,” Baker added. “It would give a lot of social conservatives and evangelicals cover if they want to support Giuliani.”

In theory Rudy would leverage Brownback’s campaign infrastructure in Iowa to close the yawning gap between him and Mitt, but how likely is that to happen? The most committed social con base in the country, pounding the pavement for the lone pro-choice Republican simply because their candidate of choice asked them to? I don’t think so:

One Brownback source predicted the senator would announce his endorsement within the next month.

“We’ve done some internal polling to see where [Brownback supporters] are going to make sure they’re not flocking to someone we’re not going to endorse,” said the source.

In other words, there’s no earthly way he’s going to endorse Giuliani. He’s just hinting at it to make the value of his endorsement more precious later, when it inevitably goes to some social con and the press eats it up as proof that the religious base can’t in good conscience vote for Rudy. But of course Rudy’s got to go through the motions and meet with him anyway lest he duck him and it be seen as a snub. Exit question: Who will Switchback really endorse? There’s a bit of bad blood between him and Huckabee, partly due to this ugly episode and partly due to the fact that Huck usurped him at the Ames straw poll for second place. I’m guessing Romney.


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Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudy!

JayHaw Phrenzie on October 24, 2007 at 10:29 PM

VP Brownback?

jp on October 24, 2007 at 10:30 PM

I’m guessing Romney.

I don’t know.

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback unleashed his first attack of the 2008 presidential campaign Tuesday, skewering the campaign of fellow Republican Mitt Romney for claiming Brownback once supported abortion rights…

Rob Wasinger, Brownback’s campaign manager, called Zimmerman’s comparison of the two “absurd.”
“Mitt Romney’s flip-flops are enough to make John Kerry blush,” Wasinger said.

Then there’s this video Brownback made attacking Romney.

amerpundit on October 24, 2007 at 10:31 PM

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback unleashed his first attack of the 2008 presidential campaign Tuesday, skewering the campaign of fellow Republican Mitt Romney for claiming Brownback once supported abortion rights…

Rob Wasinger, Brownback’s campaign manager, called Zimmerman’s comparison of the two “absurd.”
“Mitt Romney’s flip-flops are enough to make John Kerry blush,” Wasinger said.

Should’ve been in quotes.

amerpundit on October 24, 2007 at 10:32 PM

I’m thinking his endorsement is a liability.

Bad Candy on October 24, 2007 at 10:41 PM

assuming Rudy is nominee, he will be forced to pick the most acceptable Social Con. Canidate he can find for VP, and try to keep that voter block happy and get them to go vote and not stay home or vote 3rd party.

jp on October 24, 2007 at 10:44 PM

Will Brownback whore himself out to Rudy for a future position in his administration? But then again, he was an amnesty shill before he wasn’t, so can Rudy REALLY afford to be connected to him?

csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 10:48 PM

BTW, Red Sox 10-1 bottom of 5th.

csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 10:49 PM

Interesting. I didn’t think a Brownback endorsement would make a ripple in the dynamics BUT if he did endorse Rudy, that might help shore up the defection concern.

Spirit of 1776 on October 24, 2007 at 10:49 PM

Wait wait, the guy who was basically a one-issue candidate on pro-life is going to endorce the most vehement pro-choice Republican.

Anyone else going wtf?

BKennedy on October 24, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Senator Switch Brownback endorsing Rudy?
What! They have such differing positions on enforcing the laws regarding illegals and employing illegals!
NOT!!!

I like Tom and Fred’s ideas much better.

MB4 on October 24, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Maybe Switchback will flip his stance on abortion.

Bad Candy on October 24, 2007 at 11:00 PM

Wait wait, the guy who was basically a one-issue candidate on pro-life is going to endorce the most vehement pro-choice Republican.

Anyone else going wtf?

BKennedy on October 24, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Yep.

steveegg on October 24, 2007 at 11:03 PM

But then again, he was an amnesty shill before he wasn’t,

csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 10:48 PM

…before he was one again, today. See amnesty thread.

Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:04 PM

Red Sox 13-1 top of 6th

csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 11:06 PM

Entelechy on October 24, 2007 at 11:04 PM

Rudy would do well to put as much distance as he can from switch-reswitchback. I just don’t think they’ll be able to separate the pro-life Sam from the amnesty Sam. It’s a net loss because Rudy will appear as if he has caved on his unapoligetic history on abortion.

csdeven on October 24, 2007 at 11:13 PM

“Brownback is very well-respected,” Baker added. “It would give a lot of social conservatives and evangelicals cover if they want to support Giuliani.”

There is a lot of faith that people are just stupid. Why would this ‘political science’ professor believe that people ‘want cover’? This endorsement doesn’t change Rudy’s positions.

Abortion is just ONE issue. Check out this statement in 2000 on SUING GUN MANUFACTURERS. He has an accused child molestor on his payroll.

Rudy seems like the mafia candidate. He’s got some loyal following that he’ll pay off in one way or the other ‘making offers they can’t refuse’. If Rudy didn’t have these crony’s he wouldn’t stand a chance BECAUSE of his positions.

People don’t want ‘cover’. People want a candidate who represents their views. Rudy doesn’t no matter who he gets for VP people won’t be enthusiastic about him.

ThackerAgency on October 24, 2007 at 11:22 PM

Most social cons abandoned Brownback during the amnesty shilling. He got boos during the Values Voter debate over the issue.

bj1126 on October 24, 2007 at 11:24 PM

Never been impressed with Brownback, so whether he endorses Rudy or not makes no difference. He (Brownback) lost all creds over illegal immigration, and just never made me at ease with the notion that he might be CIC.

This calls for a well placed *yawn*.

linlithgow on October 25, 2007 at 2:46 AM

Well, I guess one open borders candidate deserves another…

Hollowpoint on October 25, 2007 at 2:48 AM

Mary Katharine endures all of BOR’s interruptions and boorishness with grace and with a smile.

She deserves her own show.

(and btw, BOR never lets ANYONE finish a sentence. He has guests on and talks over them. What is it with his generation anyway?)

Always Right on October 25, 2007 at 5:39 AM

sorry wrong thread… need more coffee… need more coffee…

Always Right on October 25, 2007 at 5:40 AM

OK, as long as we’re on this topic….

If Rudy can accept an endorsement from Tommy Thompson (which caused barly a ripple in the fabric of spacetime) then he can accept an endorsement from ANY former rival… with the exception of RONPAUL… who will probably endorse Mike Gravel.

Tier 2 endorsements are like kissing your sister…. its the Tier 1 endorsements that are like kissing Heidi Klum.

Always Right on October 25, 2007 at 5:43 AM

Off topic, but in the realm of politics, a good reason to not sit out the next election:

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5E9B50DF-7E64-417B-8ADC-1BCFE0F07536

Texas Nick 77 on October 25, 2007 at 7:28 AM

“Brownback is very well-respected,” Baker added. “It would give a lot of social conservatives and evangelicals cover if they want to support Giuliani.”

Brownback would lose respect from many social cons if he endorsed Giuliani. The natural fit for his base is Huckabee.

CP on October 25, 2007 at 9:16 AM

May I quote Ace of Spades here? The only caveat… ABC News. Are they turning on their “alternative choice?”

Rudy Giuliani, meanwhile, has decided to stop running for President of the United States and instead seems to be running for Mayor of Bizzarro-Ville.

Presidential candidate Rudolph Giuliani hired a Catholic priest to work in his consulting firm months after the priest was accused of sexually molesting two former students and an altar boy and told by the church to stop performing his priestly duties.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3753385&page=1

Texas Nick 77 on October 25, 2007 at 10:48 AM

How far in debt is the Brownback campaign? I hope it doedn’t come down to this.
What a stab in the back to his supporters. Guess what Allapundit, us social conservatives don’t take marching orders from Brownback, Dobson, or anyone else. We can decide for ourselves who best represents ALL of our concerns, thankyouverymuch.

edgehead on October 25, 2007 at 2:10 PM

Buchanan:

Gravitating now to Rudy’s camp are those inveterate opportunists, the neocons, who see in Giuliani their last hope of redemption for their cakewalk war and their best hope for a “Long War” against “Islamo-fascism.”

I will, Rudy promises, nominate Scalias. Only one more may be needed to overturn Roe. And I will keep Hillary out of the White House.

A Giuliani presidency would represent the return and final triumph of the Republicanism that conservatives went into politics to purge from power. A Giuliani presidency would represent repudiation by the party of the moral, social and cultural content that, with anti-communism, once separated it from liberal Democrats and defined it as an institution.

Rudy offers the right the ultimate Faustian bargain: retention of power at the price of one’s soul.

MT on October 26, 2007 at 4:14 PM

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