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Christian conservative leaders decide: None of the above?

posted at 9:53 am on October 22, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The conclave has concluded and if the Wash Times is to be believed, even Mike Huckabee — an ordained minister — may not be “Christian enough.”

“There was no consensus on candidates, no agreement, period,” a participant confided after the meeting, held at the Washington Hilton one day after several of their groups participated in a “Values Voters” summit at that hotel.

Then, referring to Mr. Huckabee, he said, “He’s finished, I think. Bad things will be coming out about him,” referring to long-standing accusations surrounding Mr. Huckabee’s clemency for a rapist who later murdered someone in another state…

Mr. Thompson was the first choice of many top Christian conservatives before he announced formally, but his former boosters say he has lost support since because he lacks energy, passion and even knowledge about current events. Mr. Thompson underperformed in both his speech and the straw poll at the Values summit, garnering only 10 percent of the overall vote, including Internet ballots.

Reportedly Huck had the most support as a consensus choice who might obviate the need for a third-party candidate, which makes the objection to his clemency snafu curious. Do they know that his clemency policy was based explicitly on Christian principles? That’ll be a fun argument to watch, if and when it happens. It’ll also be fun to see how the rest of the party reacts if the religious right succeeds in anointing Huck the nominee even though he’s a second-tier candidate without their support. That would prove that they own the party, if ever proof was needed. Would the center go along with their choice in the interest of slaying the Hillary dragon? Or would they react to social cons’ threats to bolt if they don’t get a tailor-made nominee with some threats of their own? The latter, I hope, although with the possible exception of a few Fredheads (and Paulnuts, of course), I don’t sense such ardent support for any of the other candidates that would cause anyone to sit out if their guy isn’t the nominee.

Your quote of the day, from a WSJ piece on Giuliani’s uphill climb in deep red South Carolina:

Mr. Giuliani came through town earlier this month for a brief public meet-and-greet at a local coffee shop. Perhaps 100 people showed up. Inside, Mr. Jones ran into Doug Wavle, who represents Greenville on the state Republican executive committee. Mr. Wavle describes the county as “Bible-believing” and predicts peace won’t come to the Middle East until “the Lord Jesus Christ returns to Earth.” Mr. Giuliani, he says, doesn’t meet the strict moral standards he and his neighbors set. “I’m here just to be a good host,” Mr. Wavle told Mr. Jones. “This is not my candidate, and you know why.”


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If “Christian” conservatives turn up their noses at Romney just because he is a Mormon, then they deserve each and every bad thing President Hillary will do to them.

WasatchMan on October 22, 2007 at 4:08 PM

If “Christian” conservatives turn up their noses at Romney just because he is a Mormon, then they deserve each and every bad thing President Hillary will do to them.

WasatchMan on October 22, 2007 at 4:08 PM

I’m pretty confident that his flip-flops and pandering style is more responsible for people- Christian conservatives included- turning up their noses at Romney than his Mormonism.

Hollowpoint on October 22, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Which again, for the record as I have stated before, in so doing, I am treating – in this case the pacifists – as I would like to be treated, therefore fulfilling the Golden Rule.

By that reading of the golden rule, a masochist might feel obliged to inflict pain on others since he himself wants to be treated that way. Many Christian teachers refine the reading of the rule as such: “do unto others, wherever possible, as they want to be done by.” Colts Fan was suggesting that a level of mutual respect is, not only Christian, but also helpful in exchanging points of view.

dedalus on October 22, 2007 at 4:43 PM

The Golden Rule

Matt 7:12 Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

We have to read this in context of what Jesus says about who can do (and how it done) truly Good things to others.

Romans 3:22 The righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

This “Good”, often called righteousness, only comes from the father.

The problem with the Golden Rule is those who mis-interpret tthis to say that Man must do good works through their own power or merit. But this is contrary to Jesus saying that good works can only come from God through Faith in Christ.

It is not us who do good works for our neighbors, but God who does good works for our neighbors through us.

If we find ourselves doing bad works, then God is not influencing us. And if we are doing good works in order to glorify ourselves, then we are not glorifying God who works good through us.

Point is this:

The proper interpretation of the Gold Rule is, therefore, we must do unto others (to God’s glory) what we would have our neighbors do unto us (to God’s glory).

Just doing good in and of itself doesn’t gain brownie points with God. Especially if we are doing them for the sole purpose of making ourselves look good in the eyes of others, and thereby assuming a self-rightous position in the eyes of God.

Remember folks. Biblical salvation and all the good that comes from it is not about us. It is aboput Christ.

Lawrence on October 22, 2007 at 5:41 PM

I get the impression these folks DO NOT WANT to find a candidate.

Gatordoug on October 22, 2007 at 6:14 PM

nailinmyeye on October 22, 2007 at 2:13 PM

I didn’t say I excused the name calling. Read my post again.

That might have been worded just a little better,

I simply stated – if you’ll follow the conversation by a couple of posts back – that I too am tired of Christians who think the love that Jesus was good at showing nullifies everything else about God. The kinds that storm off in a huff, or … read this … engage in name calling! – when they realize the Bible can’t be re-written as and only as Matthew 7:1.

If a rapist seeks forgiveness from Christ, that’s fine and dandy – but he needs to pay his debts to society in the process and not just walk off. Only then will he truly be forgiven for the hurt he’s caused people.

Ryan Gandy on October 22, 2007 at 7:56 PM

If a rapist seeks forgiveness from Christ, that’s fine and dandy – but he needs to pay his debts to society in the process and not just walk off. Only then will he truly be forgiven for the hurt he’s caused people.

Ryan Gandy on October 22, 2007 at 7:56 PM

I think you and I agree on this point exactly, and I think ColtsFan was trying to say very nearly the same thing.

Cheers.

nailinmyeye on October 22, 2007 at 10:56 PM

Huckaby is marshmallow-soft on immigration. That kills it for me.

Ali-Bubba on October 23, 2007 at 1:16 AM

I think you and I agree on this point exactly, and I think ColtsFan was trying to say very nearly the same thing.

nailinmyeye on October 22, 2007 at 10:56 PM

It appears that my comments have been misunderstood.

Nailinmyeye, you are correct in understanding exactly where I was coming from. I share much agreement already with the previous commentators. My HA friends already know that I am not a pacifist at all.

My earlier purpose was only to point out the Scriptural principle that our conversation (our respectful tone, our humble, Christ-honoring attitude, and words) must model and reflect Jesus Christ. (James 3 “taming the tongue”, Colossians 3, Ephesians 4, Matthew 12:37, etc)

ColtsFan on October 23, 2007 at 1:29 AM

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