“Don’t be gentle…asskicking is what’s called for”

FINALLY, I find something to agree with Maher about.

I hope the security people took the truthers out, photographed them and IDed them, so that they can never, ever, enter the property again undetected. Charge them with criminal trespass and/or disorderly conduct. And get a court order prohibiting their presence within 300 feet of the building.

Personally, I think Maher is a scum sucking asshole, but regardless of what I think of him (and fellow assholes Matthews and Queen Shiela), he is paid to perform and put on a “talk show” (of dubious worth, IMHO), and in a civilized society, we are supposed to allow such without the interruption of assclown truthers, who really should ask their doctors if Paxil is right for them.

georgej on October 20, 2007 at 1:13 PM

What depresses me isn’t just the Truthers’ stupidity and their obnoxiousness. It’s the fact that we’re going to have to put up with these people forever, as their crazy just gets more and more deeply engrained.

In a free society we are supposed to tolerate differences of opinion and let the marketplace of ideas determine the direction of progress. Freedom of speech is essential to our liberty and that is why the Founders insured it was protected in the Bill of Rights.

There. I’ve done my freedom of speech homily. It’s time to put on my H. L. Mencken “black flag” hair shirt.

Society ALWAYS has was to deal with people that are anathema. You don’t even have to do something illegal to punish people whose behavior society detests.

Consider the pedophile and sex offender registries that every state has. Get convicted, and watch as your freedom to live where you want gets challenged by people who don’t want you near their children, for example. Pedophiles, by statute, can’t live within 1000 feet of a grade school in many states. Period.

So, if society wants to deal with these clowns, because it’s tired of their ranting nonsense, it can.

For example, it can start with PUBLIC humiliation. Put their names and photos on every lamp post, and on billboards, with the legend “convicted of disorderly conduct.” Let everybody in the community know WHO these people are and what they are up to. What’re they gonna do? Sue? Let them. Conviction is a matter of public record.

It is possible to go after the truthers financially. Their employers, assuming they aren’t living in mom and dad’s basement, can be contacted. Unless under contract, employment is “at will” in most cases. As long as termination is not based upon race, color, creed, national origin, affectional preference (in some states), marital status, and a few other illegal discrimination items, most people can be fired FOR ANY REASON. Even outside activities. Get arrested for something with no connection to work, and you can get fired, including an arrest for disorderly conduct or criminal trespass.

In fact, in my state, unless you have a spotless criminal record (nothing beyond minor moving violations and paid-up parking tickets), you can’t be a teacher, drive a school bus, work in a nursing home or a bank.

DISORDERLY CONDUCT carries up to 1 year in jail. It is not a mere “ordinance” violation in most cases.

Now, if society REALLY wants to be extreme about punishing truthers, the mortgages of truthers can be acquired as commercial paper. Mortgages are bought and sold constantly throughout the country. Go to the county where the house they live in is, look up who has the mortgage, and contact the holders offering to buy them out. Of course you have to have the money to do so, but that’s what investment clubs are for.

If they rent, most leases have a “good behavior” clause buried deeply in the contract. Conviction of “disorderly conduct” or “criminal trespass” could be grounds to invoke the eviction clause. Landlords are NOT required to rent their apartments to criminals.

So, why would one want to hold the mortgage of a truther, you ask? You can foreclose on people with mortgages if they are in violation of ANY term in the contract. Read the fine print on your mortgage and you’ll see that you don’t need to be in arrears to be foreclosed. How? For example, if the home owner’s insurance is cancelled or lapses, wait the required number of days for reinstatement, then foreclose. Getting insurance companies to bail out is easier than you think, BTW; ask anybody who lives in Mobile AL, or in Biloxi, Mississippi near the beach.

Reselling foreclosed property is a HUGE profit maker. A buyer can purchase a house well below market value (even in today’s falling markets) and still provide a profit well above the amount foreclosed.

In my community (as in most), certain individuals ARE watched by the police. Known shoplifters, pedophiles, and DUI offenders, for example, have been followed by the police, and stopped if they touch the fog-line or the yellow line in the road for a violation. This is because society does NOT approve of the past behavior of such people. And contrary to what the ACLU says, closely observing the PUBLIC BEHAVIOR of individuals selected based upon what they have done in the past is NOT unconstitutional. It’s called “good policing.” A traffic violation is legal and probable cause to stop the offender and interrogate them, while writing them a ticket.

The obsessive (and offensive) behavior of the truthers as they act out IN PUBLIC, are enough if the behavior has resulted in criminal charges (disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, vandalism, etc).

It’s called among certain law enforcement circles “putting them on the plantation.” Look up the book Arrest Proof Yourself to see what the consequences are. Then reread the paragraphs above.

Right about now, most of you are throwing up, retching at what seems to be Stalinist behavior and my advocacy for it. Guess what, boys and girls. This is exactly what the left has been doing to us over the years.

Own a gun anywhere in Illinois, and CHICAGO’s Mayor Daley wants to know about it. In fact, he tried to SUE to get BATFE’s database to find out. He’s also tried to get the sales/ownership information about gun owners in southern Wisconsin and Indiana, within 100 miles of Chicago as well.

Have a Concealed Handgun License in certain towns, and the NEWSPAPER will publish your name, address, and phone number. That is so you can be publicly ostracized and denied service at the whim of the business owner for being a gun owner who believes in his right of self defense.

But, Bill and Hillary orchestrated MUCH WORSE the last time they were in power. They used the IRS to audit their critics, and the FBI to investigate EVERYTHING they did. Ask Joe Farah of Worldnetdaily.com.

And if Hillary is elected President, we’ll see everything I’ve discussed above and much, much worse, applied against *US*. And not only that, but being “commentators” in a right-wing blog that is especially critical of Hellary, will earn you special attention, too.

Which is why any conservative or Republican who votes “third party” is an enemy of liberty, because doing so will allow the Clinton Crime Family back into power just as the Republican/conservatives Perot voters did in 1992.

Now, to put my Mencken shirt back on and summarize: If society wants to deal with these morons, it can. Society cannot stop people from holding and having or communicationg their opinions, no matter how stupid they are, but society CAN impose sanctions after the fact. Freedom of speech PREVENTS society from muzzling you, it does not prevent society from making you responsible for what you say.

georgej on October 20, 2007 at 2:36 PM