Report: Reid urges people to bid on Rush’s letter? Update: And the winner is…
posted at 12:37 pm on October 19, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Well, I take it back, then: if this is true then Reid obviously feels he’s lost enough face that he has to pretend now that he’s “in on the joke.” Was anyone watching C-SPAN this morning and can confirm K-Lo’s report?
I’ve got to step away for a few hours but it’s worth tuning in to Rush and listening as bidding approaches the finish line. The auction ends at 1 p.m.; I’m hoping against hope that he’ll reveal the name of the winner, mainly so that we can all start begging him or her for a few thou in seed money for the righty blogosphere. Feel free to treat this as an open thread. And if you hear something clipworthy, let us know. We’re recording.
With 23 minutes to go, the bidding stands at $2,100,100.
Update: The bids plus Rush’s match topped $4 million. Video of the winning moment is on the way.
Update: Here it is.
(courtesy rushlimbaugh.com)
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Wow…Stockholm, take note. Here’s your real winner right here.
Congrats, Betty…great job! And Rush, you rock!
Miss_Anthrope on October 19, 2007 at 1:17 PM
[Ochlan on October 19, 2007 at 1:12 PM]
Must be this one.
An interesting few contributions — she doesn’t seem to be a Hillary fan.
Dusty on October 19, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Nice Seinfeld reference.
BadgerHawk on October 19, 2007 at 1:18 PM
I suspect Ms. Casey’s about to get gang audited by the IRS.
Mike Honcho on October 19, 2007 at 1:19 PM
Everyone needs a hobby!
nailinmyeye on October 19, 2007 at 1:19 PM
As Limbaugh put it: “It’s sweet, poetic justice” that this letter designed to smear him and drive him off the air will instead provide at least $4.2 million for the college educations of the children of Marines and federal law enforcement.
Rather than hurt Limbaugh, Reid and the 40 other Dems have brown-stuff on their faces, and no amount of spinning changes the fact that they FAILED and FAILED miserably in their attack on Limbaugh.
The end result: Limbaugh shines. Reid and the Democrats STINK.
georgej on October 19, 2007 at 1:20 PM
Listen on the KSFO feed out of SF.Lots of empty bandwidth here for obvious reasons……
bbz123 on October 19, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Great line from Rush:
Niko on October 19, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Hey AP; I think saint kansas just found a way to get you the iPhone.
steveegg on October 19, 2007 at 1:22 PM
It is important to note that her winning bid was placed long BEFORE Harry Reid took the floor. Had there been any bids after he had spoken on the floor he would have claimed credit for the bids. That was his plan, and expected the last minute nature of auctions to allow it to happen.
It did not. In fact I am pretty sure the reason no more bids were made was because of Harry speaking on the floor. I know listening to the show I would not have made any new bids on it.
When any MSM misreports this story and talks about Reid on the floor they need to be shot down with the fact that NO BIDS were made after he spoke.
Voidseeker on October 19, 2007 at 1:24 PM
News2Use, I agree. I found this info about her past history and her husband’s foundation: the Eugene B. Casey Foundation.
From the date of the article, she’s probably 79, maybe 80, now. There have been family lawsuits over the money as well.
The article also mentions she gives to some libertarian think tanks.
INC on October 19, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Not if we can do anything about it, and Nov. 2008 is that chance.
steveegg on October 19, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Haha! good one.
PRCalDude on October 19, 2007 at 1:26 PM
It is…she’s a big donor to the Washington Opera. How else would Placido Domingo be in DC?
Just heard an idea from a caller for a .pdf with Rush’s signature be sold for $1k each (to reach $5m total)…Rush is pondering. McGuyver, there’s hope for you yet!!!
Miss_Anthrope on October 19, 2007 at 1:26 PM
Amended:
…if, say, Michelle were to tear out her “down arrow” honor from Newsweek, autograph it, and auction it off, along with a photo of Allah cradling his new iPhone, I’d bid on it.
saint kansas on October 19, 2007 at 1:27 PM
bahaha that made me laugh, nice one :D
Sir Loin on October 19, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Judging by her recent donations, maybe she bought it to send to Barack…with a note saying “you dingus”?
Ochlan on October 19, 2007 at 1:28 PM
I dunno, AP. I sure think you’re right.
PRCalDude on October 19, 2007 at 1:29 PM
The only reason he wants one of those gay iPhones is so he can work while never leaving his favorite bar ;-)
Great plan
Ochlan on October 19, 2007 at 1:29 PM
a photo of Allah cradling his new iPhone,
Video/audio so we can hear him saying how f-ing great it is.
MamaAJ on October 19, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Here’s an interesting 1992 WaPo story on Betty Casey:
The strange story of the Casey family of Montgomery County starts with a bomb, a pipe bomb that nearly blew heiress Betty Brown Casey out of her Mercedes and into oblivion in March 1990.
The bombing only slightly injured the widow of multimillionaire landowner Eugene B. Casey, and it has never been solved — mainly, investigators say, because Casey and her family have refused to help them.
Now the Potomac socialite, who is 64, is being sued by 10 of her late husband’s grandchildren, who say she coerced her dying husband into giving her nearly exclusive control over his $ 100 million fortune.
Sources close to Betty Brown Casey, who declined to be interviewed, say she is a shy, generous woman who has been victimized by a murder attempt and now by greedy, spiteful relatives, angry that Eugene B. Casey left his millions to charity instead of to them.
“That is absolutely false,” said Eugene S. Casey, of Rockville, a son of Eugene B. Casey. “This suit is not about money. It’s about the theft of the Casey heritage and name by Betty Brown Casey.”
The Casey family tale is filled with the kinds of characters and intrigue, plus a monstrous inheritance, that novelists dream of.
Consider some of the characters: Eugene B. Casey was a farm adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt and one of Montgomery County’s wealthiest landowners. He built hundreds of low-cost houses in the Rockville-Gaithersburg area in the 1950s and 1960s, along with some of Montgomery’s first large apartment buildings. A Democratic activist in Maryland, Casey also bought the Marlboro Race Course and became embroiled in the corruption trial of former governor Marvin Mandel.
Casey’s six children include Douglas R. Casey, a best-selling author and adventurer whose business interests have run to parts of the globe where, he once said, “blood is running in the streets.”
Also playing a major role is the suspected bomber: a mysterious man in a black wig, carrying a leather bag, who was seen skulking around the downtown Washington garage where Casey’s luxury car was parked.
In the middle of the drama is Betty Brown Casey, who as a young waitress from Sykesville in 1955 married a political and financial powerhouse 24 years her senior and became a prominent figure on the Washington social scene. Family members said she met her husband-to-be when she came to live on his property with her cousin, a Casey employee.
Today Betty Brown Casey controls a foundation that bears her husband’s name and distributes some of his millions to charity. She is on the boards of the Washington Opera and her alma mater, Washington College in Chestertown, Md., which has as its centerpiece, thanks to the Caseys’ philanthropy, the Eugene B. Casey Academic Center.
The Eugene B. Casey Foundation also has given generously to the Patrick Henry Foundation of Brookneal, Va., a group that promotes free enterprise. Betty Brown Casey was the chief organizer of a Washington dinner that raised $ 150,000 for the group in May 1990. The group that night gave its citizenship award to Ross Perot; another guest speaker was President Bush.
Casey has denied all the allegations against her in documents filed in Montgomery County Circuit Court, where the case is in preliminary stages.
“I’ve never met anyone who is so quietly charitable as Betty Casey,” said Casey’s attorney, Brendan V. Sullivan Jr., the Washington luminary who represented Marine Col. Oliver North. “She is a quiet, almost shy woman. A lot of her money is given away . . . always on the condition of anonymity.”
Sullivan said he cannot think of anyone who would want Casey dead, and investigators said they couldn’t either.
After the March 19, 1990, bombing, county police and investigators from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) determined that the device planted in the trunk of her car was a 12-inch piece of galvanized pipe packed full of explosive powder, with a $ 50 garage door opener from Sears taped to its side.
The bomber had used the door opener’s remote control to detonate the bomb, which blew the back end off Casey’s Mercedes-Benz sedan as she was being driven home from a shopping trip to Rizik’s, a women’s clothing store in Northwest Washington.
ATF reports say that Casey told investigators she couldn’t think of anyone who might want to kill her, but several family members said she has made many enemies. “Who would want her dead? Just open the phone book and start with A,” one family member said.
Investigators showed photos of family members to parking garage attendants, with no luck. They tracked bomb components, but couldn’t identify where they were purchased. They reviewed Casey’s finances and could not determine who would benefit from her death; her will leaves her money to the charitable foundation, the reports say.
That’s where the leads stopped.
“That [investigation] ran basically into a dead end because the victim was uncooperative,” said David Troy, special agent in charge of ATF’s Washington field office. Troy said the investigation is still open, but “turned into a real circus” when neither Casey nor her family would cooperate.
Sullivan, however, said Casey “cooperated fully” and agreed to repeated interviews.
Troy said the family seemed to be in some turmoil and to fear extensive publicity. “There were a lot of domestic problems within that family involving inheritances,” he said.
Those problems surfaced with a roar in April when the grandchildren, who range in age from 16 to 31, filed their suit. In it, they say Casey’s estate was worth more than $ 100 million when he died of natural causes in 1986 at 82.
In court papers, Sullivan said Casey’s fortune was less than that, but he did not give a figure.
Eugene B. Casey’s first two marriages, which produced six children and 11 grandchildren, ended in divorce. When he married Betty Brown Casey, it was her first marriage. They had no children together.
In 1981, Casey signed a will that would have divided his holdings in half at his death. One share was to go to Betty Brown Casey; the other was to be divided into equal trust funds for his six children.
If Casey’s estate were worth $ 100 million, as the grandchildren say, Betty Brown Casey would have received $ 50 million and the six children would have received trust funds of about $ 8 million each. As each of those children died, their trusts were to be divided into equal shares among their children.
The suit contends that two changes made to the will in 1985 resulted in half of Casey’s assets going to Betty Brown Casey and the other half — minus $ 1 million for each of the six children — to the foundation, controlled by Betty Brown Casey.
The six children, who live in Florida, Texas, New York, Colorado, Pennsylvania and Montgomery County, and range in age from 42 to 66, are not plaintiffs in the suit.
But a source close to Betty Brown Casey said she believes at least some of the children are behind the suit because they are angry that their father changed his will and reduced their inheritances. The source also said that Casey, out of her own holdings, gave each of the six children property, cash or trust funds worth $ 1 million — on top of the $ 1 million they each got from the estate.
Eugene S. Casey, the son, acknowledged that gift, but said Betty Brown Casey gave the money to be “manipulative,” to keep the children from complaining about the larger inheritances they did not receive.
Other family members described Casey as greedy, mean and vindictive, despite her effort to appear kind and generous.
But another family member disagreed. “As far as I’m concerned, she’s always been nice to me,” said Virginia Casey Visnich, 66, of Coral Gables, Fla., Eugene B. Casey’s oldest child.
Visnich said she does not believe Betty Brown Casey coerced her father into changing his will. Betty Brown Casey’s friends also said that the allegations against her were hard to believe and that the bombing had left her shaken.
“It just scared her to death, wondering who would do that and feeling very distrustful,” said Sarah Brady, the gun-control activist and wife of James Brady, the former White House press secretary who was wounded in the 1981 assassination attempt against President Reagan.
The Caseys and the Bradys became friends in the early 1980s because the two men had a common doctor and friend: Arthur Kobrine, one of Washington’s best-known neurosurgeons. Kobrine treated Brady and Reagan on the day of the shooting, and he remains Brady’s doctor.
Sarah Brady and Kobrine said Casey was a “wonderful” person who would not and could not have coerced her husband. “Even in the years when he became someone physically less strong, I can’t imagine anyone coercing him into anything,” Kobrine said.
Douglas Casey, the older of two children from Eugene B. Casey’s second marriage, was the child closest to his stepmother, family members said. Douglas Casey, who could not be reached for comment, wrote a 1981 bestseller, “Crisis Investing,” and told The Washington Post then that his business interests ran from arms factories in Peru to ventures in South Africa. “There are always business opportunities when the blood is running in the streets,” he said.
Casey family members said that despite Eugene B. Casey’s vast wealth, the family never lived lavishly. The lawsuit, they said, is a reluctant step into the limelight to correct what they consider a serious wrong.
One family member said the situation proves only one thing, that “money never made anybody happy.”
Mike D. on October 19, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Doh………..you are soooo going to get banned for exposing his plan……..
doriangrey on October 19, 2007 at 1:42 PM
I want to see Reid do the daschel dance next time he stands for election.
TheSitRep on October 19, 2007 at 1:43 PM
ctmom on October 19, 2007 at 1:51 PM
From K-Lo at NRO:
INC on October 19, 2007 at 1:54 PM
OK taking that offer
Is this story out of Minnesota. Italian police have seized the 2 kids of a US military mom who was out on a mission saying she had abandoned her kids
US military mom tries to get kids back from Italian police
William Amos on October 19, 2007 at 1:56 PM
here is a picture of betty casey (with placido domingo).
http://www.washingtonlife.com/issues/november_2005/washington_national_operas_openning_night/images/washington_national_operas_08.jpg
its vintage duh on October 19, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Freeper had a great idea:
“I’d rather see Senate Republicans send the charity $1,000 each — at least 41 of them, along with a letter that says “I’m sending this contribution on behalf of Democratic senator X.” A sort of “adopt-a-senator” program!”
Redbird on October 19, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Reid wins. It’s in the Senate Record that he was part of the auction.
tgillian on October 19, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Reid’s trying to take credit just shows what a trashy, no-class liar he can be.
He’s putting out a self-serving spin for the MSM to use if/when they cover this event.
Rush played part of his remarks, made from the Senate floor. It was so shameless I’m surprised there wasn’t the sound of gagging in the background.
petefrt on October 19, 2007 at 2:07 PM
I hope Rush hammers all the co-signers of this letter to participate in his generosity so we can watch them squirm.
swami on October 19, 2007 at 2:12 PM
No doubt. Another example of why Harry “The War is Lost, but I’ll call Rush ‘unpatriotic’” Reid should be tossed out on his ass. (Among others of course)
Speaking of which, why is there no “Pete Stark Must Resign” movement? WTF!? This guy accused the President of sending “kids” to Iraq to get their heads blown off for his “amusement”. Are we really going to let this s*** stand?
RightWinged on October 19, 2007 at 2:17 PM
the idea of getting each of the 41 Dem signers of the letter ON RECORD to either make a contribution or say publicly “no i wont do that” is worth all the Lake Erie Midge’s in the known world.
this is one of the greatest examples of turning goat-piss into gasoline ever. Bravo Rush and thank you Mrs. Casey.
Mike D. on October 19, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Harry Reid—-What a duplicitous jerk!
He’s tap dancing all over the place, trying to dig himself and the other 40 fools that signed this letter, out of the gigantic hole they dug for themselves. Rush turned the tables on them sooooo bad they will all have swollen tongues for a month from licking their wounds.
The leftists should be pounding their heads against the wall in frustration that another of their brilliant ideas went down in flames.
gunter on October 19, 2007 at 2:24 PM
there i had to fix it for truthism {yes i just made up the word}
But what a stunning turn about this is the first time old dingy has done something that has benefited our troops.
Mojack420 on October 19, 2007 at 2:33 PM
Got this via email. Interesting!
In the time period from the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 through now, we have lost over 3000 military personnel to enemy action and accidents. As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics: Here are annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:
———————————————————
1980 …….. 2,392
1981 ……. 2,380
1984 …….. 1,999
1988 …….. 1,819
1989 …….. 1,636
1990 ……. 1,508
1991 …….. 1,787
1992 …….. 1,293
1993 …….. 1,213
1994 …….. 1,075
1995 ………2,465
1996 ……. 2,318
1997 …….. 817
1998 ……. 2,252
1999 …….. 1,984
2000 …….. 1,983
2001 …….. 890
2002 ………. 1,007
2003 …….. 1,410
2004 …….. 1,887
2005 ……… 919
2006………. 920
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Rush Limbaugh is the man.
PRCalDude on October 19, 2007 at 2:37 PM
Looks to me like combat deaths are down under Bush.
PRCalDude on October 19, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Indeed. Seeing the numbers listed like this sure puts a new perspective on them.
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 2:41 PM
God bless em all! Many times over.
Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 2:44 PM
The source is a PDF report prepared for Congress by the Congressional Research Service. It’s worth the download, there’s tons of interesting information in there.
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 2:49 PM
It sure is great to get the opportunity to watch dirty Harry squirm like a worm on the hook.
What a mealy mouth piece of dog sh!t.
Nevada must be proud.
leanright on October 19, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Reid doubled down—he is taking credit for the success of Rush’s charity, making it sound like he and Rush planned all this like a toys-for-tots drive. Disgusting.
Cuffy Meigs on October 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Oh for goodness sake, this is a WCCO TV story with Jason LaRusha being so overly dramatic. The Air Force woman goes to Italy with a man and her kids, not her husband( fiance my butt) and leaves her kids with him while she goes on a mission. This will settle out and be a nothing story. But, it would be refreshing to see a story where they go to the Mom and say” What were you thinking, stupid!”
MNDavenotPC on October 19, 2007 at 2:58 PM
When Reid was on CSPAN it sounded like he was almost in tears.
At the end, he was begging, begging, any deep pocketed democrat loyalist to buy this letter, at any price so the democrat party could claim some slight credit for raising money for the Marine Corp and Law Enforcement foundation.
They didn’t do it, they wouldn’t do it, they couldn’t do it.
Rush said, ‘we crashed the ebay servers’, at the end of the auction.
If someone loyal to the democrats tried to ‘game the system’ at the end, they failed.
Harry Reid’s political career IS NOW OVER!
rockhauler on October 19, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Rush has a transcript up already with his comments on Reid’s speech: Harry Reid Brazenly Tries to Take Credit for Auction
Money quote:
INC on October 19, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Hey Reid, why urge people to bid on it? Typical liberal always wanting someone else to spend their own money. How about just making a donation Sen. Reid? Reid’s looking into how he can match the high bid with taxpayers money so then he can take credit for it as his own. Democrats are always generous with other peoples money.
roninacreage on October 19, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Heh heh yea, but Rush on his program today gave Dingy Harry the Danny Bonaduce over the shoulder face plant treatment…..Harry better go see his dentist……
doriangrey on October 19, 2007 at 3:10 PM
I hope that the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation will publish how much money was raised by donations inspired by this auction.
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Harry Reid is a moral and ethical black hole attempting to suck all decency and happiness from the universe.
trigon on October 19, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Reid is one of the more pathetic Senate creatures I have had the misfortune to observe in years. Truly a schmuck.
Reid is too stupid for words, and Rush ate his lunch yet again.
Jaibones on October 19, 2007 at 3:29 PM
I hate I missed Harry Reid’s comments on the floor of the senate. Maybe AP can post a clip. I wonder if he wore his big red nose. What a clown. Next time a lib ask what the definition of victory is point to this. Nice job Rush.
chief on October 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Rush has just proven that he has more integrity and balls than any - any - elected Republican. God, I wish he were running….
Halley on October 19, 2007 at 3:47 PM
- - Harry Reid, a.k.a. The Reaper
What a farce. Of course Messrs May and Limbaugh know this - that’s why they initiated this action. And so does the rest of the world.
Charlatan!
Niko, indeed, entrepreneurship, with heart, lives!
RushBaby, you’re definitely an artist. Liked the musical notes in celebration.
Entelechy on October 19, 2007 at 3:52 PM
For Harry Reid to try to share the credit for the amount of money raised for that letter is absolutely outrageous.
Hey, Harry…nice try, but we don’t buy it!
Harry Reid and his fellow hardcore leftists of the Democrat Party (as far as I am concerned) are a bunch of good for nothing, low life, military hating, Stalinist tactics worshipping, double standard living, burqa loving, defeatist hoping, toilet bowl water drinking, anthropormorphic threats to this country.
Hey, Harry…how is it that you can make a tax free million dollar land deal, but if I forget to report so much as $1.00, the IRS immediately wants to talk to me?
The False Dervish on October 19, 2007 at 4:10 PM
BTW-Harry…what country are you a senator of?
The False Dervish on October 19, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Dingy Harry. The guy has become a caricature of himself.
csdeven on October 19, 2007 at 4:13 PM
I love the fact that Harry Reid neglected to say why a letter, signed by 41 Senators, was worth so much. Maybe because these Senators had been caught red-handed conspiring in a lie to censure a private citizen’s freedom of speech.
On top of the fact this is a worthy cause that all the money is going to, it also caused Reid to actually (with hat in hand) say something nice about Clear Channel and Rush over this whole mess they started and, at the same time, expose Reid’s lie over what Rush said. Brilliant!!!
Way to go and nicely done Rush! Not to mention, classy to boot!
PB
Planet Boulder on October 19, 2007 at 4:14 PM
“we broke E-bay”
heh
Wind Rider on October 19, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Reid says Mark May called him, as if to let him in on the auction plan. I’m sure it was more like “Look out loser, your plan is going to backfire on you, big time, I just gave your letter to Rush to do with however he sees fit!”
ctmom on October 19, 2007 at 4:32 PM
This is a “Dan’s Bake Sale” - like moment. It is going to be remembered for quite awhile.
Blaise on October 19, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Congress should declare today as national “Rush Limbaugh Day” the day a private citizen generated the largest donation to the military evah and MATCHED IT! A truly Great American.
ctmom on October 19, 2007 at 4:53 PM
God bless you Rush !
Maxx on October 19, 2007 at 5:01 PM
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Great post RushBaby. I’m surprised the DemocRATS didn’t have that information classified as top secret.
Maxx on October 19, 2007 at 5:06 PM
I suspect that email (as with 95% of political emails) is a hoax. I can’t find anything at Snopes.com at the moment, but looking even at the PDF you later provided, I see nothing to support these numbers, unless I’m totally missing something.
Maybe I’m totally missing something out of that link, but if I’m correct, I’d just suggest caution in posting ANYTHING that you get via email. Forwards are almost always total hoaxes… and when they aren’t totally hoaxes, they’re usually still partially false.
RightWinged on October 19, 2007 at 5:23 PM
Caution duly noted. Here’s the source URL:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
and the wiki for Federation of American Scientists.
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Page 12
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 5:55 PM
As usual, the MSM (ABC) get it wrong.
Kini on October 19, 2007 at 6:10 PM
“Wrong” implies some sort of mistake was made.
Max Power on October 19, 2007 at 6:25 PM
But here is the pisser from the ABC article..
Last line in the article….Wow.
ChrisM on October 19, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Chris M you devil dog you…and maybe others…beat me to it. saw this on Drudge and then read the ABC dudes’ blog post.
As my friend E. is fond of saying, i was Gobsmacked by it.
But not really as it turns out. Can ABC News be counted o to report this story correctly? Uh, no.
Can ABC News, in the course of incorrectly reporting this story, be counted on to skew it towards Harry Reid and away from the PR Grand Slam by Rush in support of the worthwhile Marine Law Center? Unquestionably.
Is it time to link to a story titled, “Flaming Squirrel Ignite Car”??
By Odin’s Raven I say Oh yes.
Mike D. on October 19, 2007 at 7:16 PM
Of course, the damage has already been done. Minutes ago while introducing the E-Bay story Fox news tool Shepard Smith actually repeated the smear that Limbaugh used the phrase “phony soldiers” to refer to all soldiers who oppose the war. Once these memes get out there, they’re damned hard to erase.
Blacklake on October 19, 2007 at 7:26 PM
I still don’t see where it lists those annual totals you listed here:
Again, I’m not questioning your honesty here… I just hate getting burned by forwarded emails, because they’re almost always bogus.
Anyway, again, am I missing something? I don’t find a place in that PDF that cites those same numbers listed with those annual totals you’ve got above.
RightWinged on October 19, 2007 at 8:04 PM
Maybe not a mistake but a deliberate attempt to propagate the smear even more. The article does not explain what Rush really said.
So, wrong as usual, selective reporting, deliberate misinformation.
Call it what you want. Fair but Accurate?
Kini on October 19, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Has anyone been following the thread about Rush’s auction over at Democratic Underground?
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Friggin’ hilarious!
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GT on October 19, 2007 at 8:30 PM
Rush is amazing.
He plays the microphone like Sonny Rollins plays the sax.
mylegsareswollen on October 19, 2007 at 8:55 PM
I downloaded and opened the PDF on my home computer. Older version of acrobat, chart is now on page 11 (weird). Anywho. There were some mistakes, probably copy/paste mistakes, in the emailed version of the chart. Here are the corrected numbers in Table 5 of the report:
Active Duty Military Deaths, including Accident, Hostile
Action, Homicide, Illness, Pending, Self Inflicted, Terrorist Attack, and Undetermined
1980 2,392
1981 2,380
1982 2,319
1983 2,465
1984 1,999
1985 2,252
1986 1,984
1987 1,983
1988 1,819
1989 1,636
1990 1,507
1991 1,787
1992 1,293
1993 1,213
1994 1,075
1995 1,040
1996 974
1997 817
1998 827
1999 796
2000 758
2001 891
2002 999
2003 1,228
2004 1,874
2005 1,942
2006 1,858
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 9:37 PM
is there a bigger fool in the senate than Reid ??? i don’t think so ….
aniladesai on October 19, 2007 at 9:43 PM
Yeah, that’s the chart I assumed you meant… but it completely undermines the point of the emailed list… just look at the past decades and compare the PDF to the emailed list:
Here’s the PDF of 96-06
and now the email you received:
The PDF shows nothing above 1,000 between 96 and 02, and most were in the 700s and 800s. Yet the email claims that many of those years were about 2,200 and 2,300, and others just shy of 2,000. Similarly, the email claims there were deaths in 05 and 06, only in the 900s… yet the PDF shows the figures at nearly 2,000!
Again, these are completely off. And as always, correct me if I’m missing something, but I’m still smelling a bogus email, because these numbers are not even close. And as I said, I’m not attacking you for posting email contents… people take that stuff as fact when we get if from friend and family that we trust, but where did they get it from, ya know? I have to check these things out for my grandparents all the time and then break the news that they just hoaxed everyone they know with “Hillary got kicked out of a vet’s restaurant in Colorado”, etc. emails.
RightWinged on October 19, 2007 at 10:00 PM
F*#k you Harry Reid and the 40 pansy a**es that signed the letter!! Thank you Betty!! Harry put your money where your mouth is! RUSH DID!!
build the wall on October 19, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Right you are, RightWinged!
RushBaby on October 19, 2007 at 10:31 PM
God Bless! and a Big Thanks!! to Betty Casey and Rush and all those willing to stick it out there for a cause … because they can. ;-)
(Thanks to MM and AP and all the rest of the Hot Air crew and all those who fight a good fight against a world of melon-heads for leaders on both sides of the aisle)
normsrevenge on October 19, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Sorry to stomp on that one :(. The case can easily be made about how minimal the death count has been, as compared to other conflicts, if that’s their thang… but any claim that more were killed when Clinton was busy not responding to terror, than when Bush was responding to them, is unfounded.
A tip for anyone who’s gotten that email, don’t send it on to your address book. Almost all of those emails are bogus, and everyone should use Snopes.com to check them out first. I didn’t find this one listed there, but most are, and it’s good to do, as most just hit “forward” without a second thought. I just worry that we’re going to have millions of people running around citing “facts” from emails they read and assumed they were true.
That actually raises an interesting point… Maybe that’s why liberals are so retarded and far off from the facts in most cases. Perhaps their only basis for knowledge on the issues (outside of SNL and the Daily Show) is these type of emails (yeah, the Left has them too).
RightWinged on October 19, 2007 at 10:55 PM
Well done, RightWinged. I’ve learned a lot reading your posts since HA opened its doors.
Thanks for the info and the perspective.
techno_barbarian on October 19, 2007 at 11:08 PM
As is my usual habit I am online listing to the webcast off RushLimbaugh.com today’s show.
Rush was prophetic in that he said the MSM would jump on the bull Reid was selling and use that as their story line.
The ABC post that others have mentioned proved he was right on the mark.
CommentGuy on October 20, 2007 at 1:38 AM
God Bless Rush.
God Save the Republic.
madmonkphotog on October 20, 2007 at 7:27 AM
Dickless Harry Reid squatted while he peed……
mcgilvra on October 20, 2007 at 9:35 AM
Rush put a ten megawatt spotlight on the congressional roach motel.
Now everyone knows what lowlife’s the Dems and especially Dingy Harry really are.
dogsoldier on October 20, 2007 at 10:39 AM
I am very late to this post, but regarding the discussion of the e-mail posted by RushBaby, I believe the e-mail may have used this post, from 2006, at Gateway Pundit as a source?
15 OCT 2006 - Gateway Pundit: US Lost More Soldiers Annually Under Clinton Than in Iraq
Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Gateway Pundit also includes this previous discussion at the end of the post to which I linked above: 31 MAY 2006 - Gateway Pundit: So, How Bad Are Things in Iraq Really?
Gateway Pundit adds this comment - which makes a good point about the whole ‘debate’ about casualties in war - from an anonymous commenter at the end of his post:
Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 12:34 PM
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