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posted at 10:30 pm on October 19, 2007 by Bryan

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It may be time for a new speech writer.

FYI: Laura Ingraham is on FNC…

Zorro on October 19, 2007 at 10:34 PM

Hmmm do ya think he’s nervous?

boomer on October 19, 2007 at 10:36 PM

Zorro on October 19, 2007 at 10:34 PM

thanks for the heads up I love Laura.

Mojack420 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

this election is devolving into an abortion debate. i think the republicans are losing site of the bigger problems.

lorien1973 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

lorien1973 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

nah…the primaries….then it is who knows what.

Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 10:41 PM

lorien1973 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

I really don’t think so. For one thing, I don’t even happen to be a McCain fan. For another, for me anyway the war is a higher priority right now. But I do appreciate an unabashed defense of the pro-life position, so that’s why I posted this.

Bryan on October 19, 2007 at 10:45 PM

I like McCain. I think he is an American hero. I just don’t think he’s the man for the job.

Spirit of 1776 on October 19, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Spirit of 1776 on October 19, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Ditto. All partisanship aside…all of it…I know it is nieve, hick, whatever you want to call it….but I get the impression from the top four they ALL understand what is at stake, what the primary focus of the next President must be.
Oh the other side I just see business as usual.

Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 10:57 PM

But I do appreciate an unabashed defense of the pro-life position, so that’s why I posted this

I am so tired of so-called conservatives who are more interested in defending “the pro-life position” rather than the lives of the unborn.

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:08 PM

so-called conservatives
billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:08 PM

Nothing so-called about it. We can’t defend the un-born if there is no one around to make un-born.

Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 11:12 PM

If it weren’t for McCain, Miguel Estrada, (not Eric Estrada, that’s different) would be on a federal court.
Instead, he’s on Rudy’s campaign.
How pro-Life is McCain?
Or Guiliani?

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:14 PM

None would dare question that McCain has served his country and served it well. His position on Amnesty, while unforunate, does not erase the fact he is generally and has always been a person of high character with strong convictions.

But McCain is getting older and more tired. I really think he should step down and salute the remaining candidates, if not for political reasons than for his health. McCain is a good egg, but he should let himself rest.

BKennedy on October 19, 2007 at 11:20 PM

Like Spirit of 1776, I think McCain is a hero. In my professional military education he has been used as an example of determined resistance in the face of the enemy. If I was ever taken as a POW, I would hope I would have 10% of the courage and dignity that he possessed.
I admire his position on this subject.
Also like Mr. 1776, I don’t think he’s the man for the job. I believe he is too rooted to the past.

Tennessee Dave on October 19, 2007 at 11:22 PM

lorien1973 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

for me personally this is about issues and one issue is the states rights which would encompass the abortion issue and medical MJ both I believe with my whole hart to be states right issues as defended in the 10th amendment .
Also on my issues is illegal immigration, strong military, war on terror against Islamofacist and their 5th column supporters here at home and the idea of a flat taxes.

Mojack420 on October 19, 2007 at 11:24 PM

I have a lot of respect for him but there are not a lot of things we do not agree on. This issue is one of the few.

SIJ6141 on October 19, 2007 at 11:26 PM

Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 11:12 PM

Limerick, I’m sorry, but I have no idea what you mean. It was once understood that the term “conservative” meant something fairly specific.
It meant:
a) a decentralized government
b) individual liberty
c) the rule of law
d) an engaged citizenry
We conservatives are losing sight of these simple principles and expecting a superman to deliver us.
I say no, let’s go with the best we got.

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:26 PM

Mitt getting the attention and endorsements of evangelicals is driving Rudy, McCain, and “What’s a dollar?” into these proclamations of their conservative bona fides.

It’s clear that every single campaign underestimated Mitt’s ability to motivate the so cons to support him. Now it ain’t over till the fat lady sings, but this is exactly what the evangelicals wanted to happen. Now that they are pandering to the evangelicals, I think every candidate has an equal chance to solidify themselves as the conservative candidate at this point.

I predicted this last week. They are making their moves. Rudy has the lead but Mitt is drafting and ready to pass. Fred is running out of gas, but thinks he’s positioned himself to coast to the win on fumes because he THINKS the rest of the candidates are going to crash.

csdeven on October 19, 2007 at 11:26 PM

Yeah, that’s just what we need on a planet facing a catastrophic decline in the number of species due to elimination of their habitat: human fetuses uber alles.

Not to mention making a issue out of abortion when there are a billion muslims who when they listen to their evil religion want to kill us or enslave us.

thuja on October 19, 2007 at 11:27 PM

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:26 PM

Billy we agree on abortion. To me it is wrong. Period. If the issues we face as a country today were the same as the issues we faced in 2000 then abortion would be my litmus test. Today it is not. We are at war with external and internal enemies. Right now I see the priority as the external war. Nothing will stop me from fighting for the unborn but first I want us to focus on the SOBs who are shooting chopping down the already born.

Limerick on October 19, 2007 at 11:32 PM

McCain is a good man, I admire him for the sacrifices he has made for his country and for the conservative issues that both he and I support.

Having said that, there are several issues on which we do not agree. That and what I percive to be his instablity do not allow me to endorse him for the job at hand.

Love you John, but you ain’t the guy for the job!

conservnut on October 19, 2007 at 11:35 PM

For another, for me anyway the war is a higher priority right now

Honestly Bryan, is a war against a foreign power higher than the rights of the unborn?
Can such things be prioritized?
Will our future be determined by a hostile foreign elite, or by our own children?

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:37 PM

Will our future be determined by a hostile foreign elite, or by our own children?

billy on October 19, 2007 at 11:37 PM

Well if we let the foreign hostile elite determine it, we won’t have children for long.

PatrickS on October 19, 2007 at 11:47 PM

Thank you for your service senator. You’ll still never get my vote.

Mojave Mark on October 19, 2007 at 11:48 PM

I’m not even playing like I give a rat’s butt about McCain anymore. He is not the same man he was back when he was held in Vietnam. He’s a backstabber and a media-pandering jackass Politician. (And I mean “politician” in the stereotypical two-faced sense.)

Regardless of his stance on abortion. A vote for McCain would be just as bad as a vote for Hillary. Thank God he f’ed up over Shamnesty and won’t be the nom. I’d hate to have to stay home on election day.

tickleddragon on October 20, 2007 at 12:21 AM

John McCain aside, especially since he’s actually a 50s Democrat, we should be happy, the Republican candidates such as they are, are responding to grassroots concerns.

Now if we can just pick the one that will continue that grassroots response after they’re elected.

Speakup on October 20, 2007 at 12:34 AM

People talk about abortion as though it is the only thing people vote for or against. That’s just where conservatism can start. The reason the media picks up on it is because it is sensational. At its core, it is barbaric. A civilized society should not contemplate the concept of government sanctioned sweeping away of a ‘problem’ that just happens to be a human.

And also with the ‘evangelical’ – a term I’ve heard more in the past 6 months (generally in a negative connotation) than I’ve heard in my life. Why don’t we talk about the ‘Catholic’ vote? Who are the ‘Catholics’ going to vote for? Generally they vote DEMOCRAT. The Republican front runner is (theoretically) Catholic. Why don’t people deride the CATHOLICS for not voting for Rudy? Why is it the ‘evangelicals’ fault that they agree with Catholics that abortion is bad?

Again this is ONE issue that Rudy is JUST LIKE HILLARY on. All the ‘liberty’, ‘rule of law’ stuff can also be included in the GUN CONTROL (Hillaryesque), AMNESTY (Hillaryesque) positions that are NOT CONSERVATIVE. ABORTION is ONE ISSUE. It is not the ONLY issue people have with these candidates.

Just because someone is pro-life doesn’t necessarily make them conservative either. John McCain for example. McCain/Feingold is a major problem, Amnesty was another disaster. . . I could continue on about issues I have with his positions. He’s ‘pro-life’ that doesn’t make him ‘conservative’ and that won’t make ‘single issue voters’ vote for him.

I am extremely fed up with this whole deal. The characterization of ‘categories’ of people and ideas is absurd. . . and the demonization of entire classes of people who MAY OR MAY NOT vote in a way you think they SHOULD (though you can’t be THAT positive yourselves about ANY of these candidates’ actual positions).

Where is the candidate that says ‘this is a great nation, elect me and I’ll make this country GREATER’? They aren’t on the Republican side. Republicans are concerned with figuring out who’s ‘more conservative’. If they were ACTUALLY CONSERVATIVE, this wouldn’t be an issue or a problem. . . sort of like the President holding a press conference to say he was ‘relevant’ (if you need a press conference to say that, you aren’t).

The problem is not with ‘single issue voters’. The problem is not with ‘evangelicals’ (again who are the Catholics going to vote for?). The problem is not with any single GROUP of people. The problem is with the choices we have. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME! They only want to be President. They don’t care about anything else and they’ll do anything they have to do get there. Maybe it should be that way because they are beholden to so many people who have given them so much money for the sole purpose of ‘being President’.

Sorry for my rant. But this is ‘hot air’ for a reason and I’m pretty PO’d about things that happened to me this week. I’m sick of seeing these mis characterizations of entire groups of people and then condemning them for it. I’m glad that McCain is pro-life. . . he doesn’t deserve a medal for it. It was a good post, and I thought I needed to get a few things off my chest.

Mainly. . . the next time someone on here posts about the ‘evangelical vote’. . . make sure you post who the ‘Catholics’ are going to vote for as well. Thank you.

ThackerAgency on October 20, 2007 at 12:45 AM

Back home to build a specific fence, John.

And then maybe Secretary of Defense.

profitsbeard on October 20, 2007 at 1:01 AM

lorien1973 on October 19, 2007 at 10:37 PM

There’s a bigger problem than the murder of millions of unborn children?

Darth Executor on October 20, 2007 at 1:09 AM

Bryan on October 19, 2007 at 10:45 PM

We can’t win any war like this. Our primary focus should be on the liberals at home, not psychotic goat herders in caves. With liberals around they don’t need weapons to win, they just have to wait for the former to degenerate our society to nothing and then simply take over. We need to start waging a relentless media war against them on every front until the word “liberal” is followed by a spit everywhere we go. Then we can bomb the goat herders to kingdom come without some dumb naked hippy running around electing Democratstraitors that try to stop us every step of the way to congress.

Darth Executor on October 20, 2007 at 1:15 AM

ThackerAgency on October 20, 2007 at 12:45 AM

Please lay off the dope.

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

While more Catholics voted Kerry than Protestants (% wise), the numbers aren’t that different and most of them still voted Bush. Bible belt protestants aren’t the only protestants in the US and if the blue state protestants are anything like the canadian protestants up here, they’re just as bad as liberal catholics.

Darth Executor on October 20, 2007 at 1:19 AM

McCain is a person worthy of our respect, its too bad his outrageous behavior furing the first 3 years of the Bush administration ruined a career

EricPWJohnson on October 20, 2007 at 1:53 AM

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♥ Happy Birthday Dear Michelle ♥
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abinitioadinfinitum on October 20, 2007 at 3:32 AM

Would those who oppose Giuliani solely because he wouldn’t personally overturn Roe v Wade (which he couldn’t do anyway) please start discussing the length of the jail terms you would impose on women and their abortionists? Until then, I hope the use of this issue to split the GOP from within and send Hillary right to the Oval Office will please cease. The Dems must be laughing like hyenas at this.

Halley on October 20, 2007 at 3:54 AM

How about this for the quote of the year?

While the vast majority of Americans are out shopping, the few continue to do all the heavy lifting.

Army to Continue Stop-Loss
Associated Press | October 18, 2007
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Army will continue to rely on an unpopular program that forces some soldiers to stay on beyond their retirement or re-enlistment dates, despite repeated pressure from Defense Secretary Robert Gates to reduce and eventually eliminate the practice.

Lt. Gen. Michael Rochelle, deputy chief of staff for personnel, said Thursday that the number of soldiers kept on duty has actually increased in recent months as a result of President Bush’s orders to increase troop levels in Iraq this year to help quell the violence.

The number of those being kept on beyond their commitment – through a program known as “stop loss” – is about 9,000 now, compared to about 7,000 before the troop buildup began in late January, he said.

“Until there is some reduction in the demand, we’re going to have to rely, unfortunately … on stop loss,” Rochelle told reporters. “Until the demand comes down a bit, we can’t do it without it.”

MB4 on October 20, 2007 at 3:57 AM

The Dems must be laughing like hyenas at this.

Halley on October 20, 2007 at 3:54 AM

The Dims are always laughing like hyenas. Except for HildaBeast™ who laughs like a demented turkey.

MB4 on October 20, 2007 at 4:04 AM

♪♪♪♪ Happy Birthday to You ♪♪♪♪
♪♪♪♪ Happy Birthday to You ♪♪♪♪
♥ Happy Birthday Dear Michelle ♥
♪♪♪♪ Happy Birthday to You ♪♪♪♪

abinitioadinfinitum on October 20, 2007 at 3:32 AM

Could not have said it better myself. Happy B-Day,and may you have many more to come!

mrfixit on October 20, 2007 at 7:05 AM

The Dems must be laughing like hyenas at this.

Halley on October 20, 2007 at 3:54 AM

I’m sure they’re completely amused that conservatives have to choose between so many liberals. Personally, I’m not.

Buzzy on October 20, 2007 at 7:41 AM

Bryan on October 19, 2007 at 10:45 PM

We are spending a lot of time talking about what the candidates are promising to do. But I have a question, for both sides. Which candidates do we believe will actually try to do what they promise?

>>>

On the issue of abortion vs. cultural scruples, as an example, what is the point of worrying about an external war hurting our international image while ignoring the rotting of our cultural morality from the inside out?

My point is that we need to be worried about both war and cultural decay. Worrying about one and not the other just trades one problem for another, and in the end we still lose.

And there are other things we need to worry about like unrestriced illegal immigration, attackes on religions freedoms, liberal judges redefining laws in such a way as to unenforceable, the sexualization of our children within the public school system, etc, etc.)

>>>

People complain about me being a single issue voter for wanting a real pro-life candidate, and in the same breath berate me for not supporting their preferred single issue candidate.

My second point here, is that none of our front running candidates are all that great and I’m not ready to jump on a band-wagon right now just because its the only band wagon available at the moment.

>>>

Thirdly, why are we Reaganesque GOPers not supporting Duncan Hunter? Out of all our runners, he’s the one most like the president we all say we admire. I just dont’ get it.

Lawrence on October 20, 2007 at 9:18 AM

Why is it the ‘evangelicals’ fault that they agree with Catholics that abortion is bad?

It isn’t.

aengus on October 20, 2007 at 10:00 AM

I like hearing a party talk about being pro-life, instead of the other that talks about no parental notification, tax-payer funded abortions and the partial birth abortion is a myth (Howard Dean)

Hening on October 20, 2007 at 10:04 AM

Rudy promises to appoint strict constructionist judges. More likely than not, it would require an entire first term to get the court into a 5-4 position and to wait for the docket to provide a case that would begin a rollback of Roe.

Post-Roe, what would be the next step for a Pro-Life president? Presumably it would be to sign Congressional legislation that restricted abortion at the federal level. Would the make-up of Congress likely be such that it would do anything more Pro-Life than make abortion “safe, legal and rare”?

There is a lot to question about Rudy but the tangible impact he can have on abortion has to be weighed against what you think about him on other issues.

dedalus on October 20, 2007 at 11:36 AM

I would just be interested in a President who was not afraid to pen this: 1983 – Ronald Reagan in The Human Life Review: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation

I doubt any candidate has the cajones to be so blunt about the issue of abortion and the sanctity of life, yet Ronald Reagan penned this during his first term as President.

Much has changed in the past 24 years, and not for the better as I bet this opinion by Ronald Reagan would be attacked. In 24 years, we have gone from talking about the sancitity of life and the conscience of the nation in the abortion debate… to saying that we must be “practical” and not talk about such out-of-date and unimportant things like sanctity of life.

What is interesting is that the whole abortion issue factors in with the overall “war on terror” in the sense of Demographics, as Mark Steyn noted in his book. Imagine having 30 million more Americans over the past 35 years. The fact is that Americans are being taught to not have as many children and to abort, abort abort. Meanwhile, immigrants are having children by the boatload, including Muslims. Not to mention Muslims all across the world. Just look at places like Londonistan with their increasing Muslim population and their birthrates. The same will happen here with the continuing trend of promoting abortion and lower birthrates.

There is a lot more happening in America than the “war on terror”. The entire fabric of American society is changing. That needs to be addressed or this country is going to be slowly destroyed from within.

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 1:31 PM

Also, Bryan, I would ask that you and/or Michelle Malkin highlight this piece by Ronald Reagan once again here at HotAir or at Michelle Malkin.com. I would be interested in seeing a discussion not of abortion in the theoretic or legal sense, but of Ronald Reagan’s essay and opinions on the matter specifically. I fear that we have regressed as a nation since 1983 and that today, Ronald Reagan would never have a chance of being elected. Especially when I read comments here at HotAir from commenters who denigrate the ideals put forth in that essay.

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 1:37 PM

Will any Presidential candidate – from Rudy Giuliani to Fred Thompson or John McCain – endorse this:

“The Respect Human Life Act, just introduced in the 98th Congress, states in its first section that the policy of the United States is “to protect innocent life, both before and after birth.” This bill, sponsored by Congressman Henry Hyde and Senator Roger Jepsen, prohibits the federal government from performing abortions or assisting those who do so, except to save the life of the mother. It also addresses the pressing issue of infanticide which, as we have seen, flows inevitably from permissive abortion as another step in the denial of the inviolability of innocent human life.

I have endorsed each of these measures, as well as the more difficult route of constitutional amendment, and I will give these initiatives my full support. Each of them, in different ways, attempts to reverse the tragic policy of abortion-on-demand imposed by the Supreme Court ten years ago. Each of them is a decisive way to affirm the sanctity of human life.

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 1:47 PM

Yep, the more I re-read this, the more I realize that were any current candidate to repeat these words of Reagan, the more he would be demonized by those many commenters here at HotAir who are critical of “evangelicals” and any of us who consider abortion one of the critical issues of our society.

Malcolm Muggeridge, the English writer, goes right to the heart of the matter: “Either life is always and in all circumstances sacred, or intrinsically of no account; it is inconceivable that it should be in some cases the one, and in some the other.” The sanctity of innocent human life is a principle that Congress should proclaim at every opportunity.

It is possible that the Supreme Court itself may overturn its abortion rulings. We need only recall that in Brown v. Board of Education the court reversed its own earlier “separate-but-equal” decision. I believe if the Supreme Court took another look at Roe v. Wade, and considered the real issue between the sanctity of life ethic and the quality of life ethic, it would change its mind once again.

As we continue to work to overturn Roe v. Wade, we must also continue to lay the groundwork for a society in which abortion is not the accepted answer to unwanted pregnancy. Pro-life people have already taken heroic steps, often at great personal sacrifice, to provide for unwed mothers. I recently spoke about a young pregnant woman named Victoria, who said, “In this society we save whales, we save timber wolves and bald eagles and Coke bottles. Yet, everyone wanted me to throw away my baby.” She has been helped by Save-a-Life, a group in Dallas, which provides a way for unwed mothers to preserve the human life within them when they might otherwise be tempted to resort to abortion. I think also of House of His Creation in Catesville, Pennsylvania, where a loving couple has taken in almost 200 young women in the past ten years. They have seen, as a fact of life, that the girls are not better off having abortions than saving their babies. I am also reminded of the remarkable Rossow family of Ellington, Connecticut, who have opened their hearts and their home to nine handicapped adopted and foster children.

The Adolescent Family Life Program, adopted by Congress at the request of Senator Jeremiah Denton, has opened new opportunities for unwed mothers to give their children life. We should not rest until our entire society echoes the tone of John Powell in the dedication of his book, Abortion: The Silent Holocaust, a dedication to every woman carrying an unwanted child: “Please believe that you are not alone. There are many of us that truly love you, who want to stand at your side, and help in any way we can.” And we can echo the always-practical woman of faith, Mother Teresa, when she says, “If you don’t want the little child, that unborn child, give him to me.” We have so many families in America seeking to adopt children that the slogan “every child a wanted child” is now the emptiest of all reasons to tolerate abortion.

I have often said we need to join in prayer to bring protection to the unborn. Prayer and action are needed to uphold the sanctity of human life. I believe it will not be possible to accomplish our work, the work of saving lives, “without being a soul of prayer.” The famous British Member of Parliament, William Wilberforce, prayed with his small group of influential friends, the “Clapham Sect,” for decades to see an end to slavery in the British empire. Wilberforce led that struggle in Parliament, unflaggingly, because he believed in the sanctity of human life. He saw the fulfillment of his impossible dream when Parliament outlawed slavery just before his death.

Let his faith and perseverance be our guide. We will never recognize the true value of our own lives until we affirm the value in the life of others, a value of which Malcolm Muggeridge says:. . . however low it flickers or fiercely burns, it is still a Divine flame which no man dare presume to put out, be his motives ever so humane and enlightened.”

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Thirdly, why are we Reaganesque GOPers not supporting Duncan Hunter? Out of all our runners, he’s the one most like the president we all say we admire. I just dont’ get it.

Lawrence on October 20, 2007 at 9:18 AM

You and me both!

Buzzy on October 20, 2007 at 1:58 PM

My purpose for posting this article is that I have read on many ‘conservative’/Republican blogs that having a leader in the Pro-Life movement in the White House doesn’t matter, since President Reagan did nothing while he was President. Not true. President Reagan led a movement. He wasn’t wishy-washy over what was practical or the legalities of abortion. He focused on the morality of the sanctity of life vs quality of life issue. That is what this debate should be about.

No candidate – from Rudy to Fred Thompson – as far as I can see so for, has dared even addressed abortion and the sanctity of life in this manner. They all copout and focus on legalities and what is practical.

None of the great movements in our country’s history would have ever gotten anywhere were that to be the focus. They all focused on the morality of the issue – from slavery to women’s rights to the civil rights movement. In all cases, the laws were changed and then the culture of our nation caught up. Had the leaders of those movements just said that they needed to keep the status quo and be “practical”, our nation would be very different today.

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 2:05 PM

Buzzy on October 20, 2007 at 1:58 PM

At least in my circle of friends/family/coworkers, there is a lot of support for Duncan Hunter. And I notice a lot of support for him in the military community as well. I think it is just a matter of people giving up on their principles and just resorting to being “practical” and saying that he can’t win, since he isn’t a “1st Tier” candidate, so they just put their support behind Rudy or Fred or Romney.

Personally, he is my first choice right now and I will be voting for him in the Primary.

Michael in MI on October 20, 2007 at 2:08 PM