Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the comment considering you are busy. I found it informative.

dedalus on October 17, 2007 at 11:50 PM

No prob.. I’m usually willing to get in to a battle (with lengthy comments) over the whole thing, but I am a bit busy, plus it’s usually in a “hot”/newer thread.

I’m kinda busy… and I really only stopped by to point out that Bill’s smear against Christians was dishonest

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the comment considering you are busy. I found it informative.

Evolution is a theory that has taken scientists from Darwin to DNA. If evolution is stupid, it has provided a testable assumption that has led to important scientific breakthroughs.

dedalus on October 17, 2007 at 11:05 PM

I’m not going to get in to this whole thing, because this thread is dead and I’m kinda busy… and I really only stopped by to point out that Bill’s smear against Christians was dishonest with the whole “people who don’t believe Dinosaurs existed” liberal lie.

But in response to your comment, Darwin wasn’t needed to discover anything we’ve found. Sure, scientists attempt to tie discoveries back to evolutionary theory (even though it’s almost always something that challenges their initial assumptions), the fact is, honest study without assumption is far more useful. Further, evolutionary assumption has held back countless discoveries. When you assume something is an evolutionary leftover and don’t study it with the intensity it deserves, and only later mistakenly learn that it isn’t a “leftover” and is fully functional. (You’d have a tough time getting your tonsils removed today, but just a couple decades ago, it was pretty regular.)

That’s just one example, and as I said, I’m not going to go on and on. And again, my point was only an issue with Bill’s dishonest assertion that there are people that believe dinosaurs didn’t exist, and then equating these people (that he/liberals made up) with people who believe the planet is about 6,000 years old, which is in fact a vast majority of the country. Even if you find the 6,000 year thing unbelievable, aligning that belief with these imaginary people who believe dinosaurs didn’t exist is ridiculous.

In response to the topic of a new study to “find a gay gene” (which scientists have been desperate to do for a long time, and always failed miserably) Bill and others there stated that there was one as if there wasn’t a question… despite the fact that there is no evidence for such a gene.

Agreed. Also agree that Bill is often funny.

Evolution is stupid. It is on the same scale as global warming or believing that giant turtles held up the earth. It is a fraud. Is is a joke. There is evidence of dinosaurs. I have never ever heard of a single Christian ever say there were no dinosaurs,, but I am not surprised that some brainless twerp on a so called comedy show says Christians don’t believe there were dinosaurs.

JellyToast on October 17, 2007 at 10:39 PM

I wouldn’t call Bill a “brainless twerp”, because I usually like him, but he is a product of his environment, no doubt. Admittedly, that’s never an excuse for idiotic uninformed slander, but he’s your traditional liberal university brainwashed hippy. In response to the topic of a new study to “find a gay gene” (which scientists have been desperate to do for a long time, and always failed miserably) Bill and others there stated that there was one as if there wasn’t a question… despite the fact that there is no evidence for such a gene.

Also, I’ve got to hand it to Levy on that one. He made the point that there are identical twins where only one is gay, so a gay gene couldn’t be less likely.

I think the guy in the clip was speaking of people who believe that the planet is 6,000 years old or that dinosaurs didn’t exist. If the majority of the country believes either of those assertions then we are certain to be bypassed in the sciences by other countries.

dedalus on October 17, 2007 at 9:52 PM

Well, then I guess you can consider us bypassed… because setting aside the “dinosaurs didn’t exist” part, the majority of the country DO believe the earth is roughly 6,000 years old. I don’t know if I’ve ever encountered anyone who doesn’t believe dinosaurs existed… as I said, this is just a smear by evolutionists because they can’t win the debate on facts, which is why I found his comment so obnoxious. I usually don’t care about the assumed evolution BS we see that leads to wild speculation about water and life on other planets, and spotting a wobble millions of light years away, and drawing up fantasy world images and publishing in science articles. It’s stupid, but it happens all the time. My issue was with Bill, who I normally find hilarious, smearing by asserting that there are people who believe dinosaurs didn’t exist.

Go to any creation site out there and find one that doesn’t believe dinosaurs existed. Actually, save your time, there aren’t any… and that’s my problem with Bill’s comment, especially when he equated these mythical people with young earth creationists (aka Christians) of which poll after poll has shown make up the vast majority of the country.

MKH from last night’s Red Eye: Apparently they’re moving Red Eye back an hour to 3am. Maybe it’s no On……

his mocking of anyone who doesn’t believe in evolution, and it was pretty obnoxious, and as always with people of his mindset, treating creationists like a fringe group, when in reality we are the vast majority.

I think the guy in the clip was speaking of people who believe that the planet is 6,000 years old or that dinosaurs didn’t exist. If the majority of the country believes either of those assertions then we are certain to be bypassed in the sciences by other countries.

You guys think this is funny!?

I confess to have never watched the program. From this clip, though, the *host* sounds like and acts like a 14-year-old.

jatfla on October 17, 2007 at 2:47 PM

It’s all in good fun which is why it’s entertaining to watch though I admit I don’t catch it often except for when AP posts clips of MKH on the show. The host does lay it on pretty thick but then again, that’s the point I believe.

What’s jarring about that guy is that he’s ultra-far left — and yet completely pleasant. I’ve never seen that combination in anyone, as far as I can recall.

Allahpundit on October 17, 2007 at 1:40 PM

He was less than “pleasant” the time he told Hannity that Petraeus is “betraying us”.

Also, Schulz was pretty annoying with his Christian attack on this show. First of all, people who don’t believe in evolution don’t deny that dinosaurs existed. That’s retarded. First of all, even if evolution were true, the theory doesn’t assert that we evolved from Dinosaurs, so making the assumption that those of us that don’t buy that fairytale must believe that “dinosaurs didn’t exist” is illogical, and intended to smear. I’ve heard this from evolutionists hundreds of times. Instead of actually looking out how impossible evolution is, they smear the oppositiong by claiming we don’t believe dinosaurs existed.

That said, in response to MKH trying to sidestep his attack, he said he was just attacking the Christians that “don’t believe in evolution”. Uh, Schulz, have you ever seen a poll on this? You’re claiming to be a Christian, but the extreme majority of people of the same faith don’t buy in to evolution.

Now before anyone says “it’s not serious”… I know, he’s usually not, but in this moment he was clearly sincere in his mocking of anyone who doesn’t believe in evolution, and it was pretty obnoxious, and as always with people of his mindset, treating creationists like a fringe group, when in reality we are the vast majority.

I confess to have never watched the program. From this clip, though, the *host* sounds like and acts like a 14-year-old.

He’s almost twice that!

Heres a good Rule of Thumb I offer on behalf of the community of like-minded men:

More,,, MUCH MORE of MKH.

Less,,, MUCH LESS of HRC.

MKH is the Eighth Wonder of the World.

HRC is a leaky septic tank.