Comments on: Video: Free Market Cure’s The Lemon http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Mon, 28 May 2012 06:02:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Random Nuclear Strikes » A Little Old http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-746725 Random Nuclear Strikes » A Little Old Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:04:02 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-746725 [...] Hot Air and other various blogs had this posted last week, whilst I was away, so if you’ve seen this, my apologies. [...] [...] Hot Air and other various blogs had this posted last week, whilst I was away, so if you’ve seen this, my apologies. [...]

]]> By: JellyToast http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738679 JellyToast Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:32:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738679 The only way we will get socialized medicine will be because we the people just cave and quit. If we can stop amnesty,, we can stop this. This was a good movie. For every crying child put out there by the Marxist party to sell government control,, there are certainly hundreds more cases to show the horrors and sorrows of rationed care! As Hillary talks about children being denied care,, she schemes to deny that same coverage and more! The only way we will get socialized medicine will be because we the people just cave and quit. If we can stop amnesty,, we can stop this. This was a good movie. For every crying child put out there by the Marxist party to sell government control,, there are certainly hundreds more cases to show the horrors and sorrows of rationed care! As Hillary talks about children being denied care,, she schemes to deny that same coverage and more!

]]> By: The lemon of health care - rockmycar.com http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738599 The lemon of health care - rockmycar.com Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:43:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738599 [...] Fun movie about East German automobiles and government run health care (via HotAir). [...] [...] Fun movie about East German automobiles and government run health care (via HotAir). [...]

]]> By: tommylotto http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738555 tommylotto Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:56:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738555 <blockquote>There’s a joke floating around that if we implement government-run health care in the US, where will Canadians find a doctor when they get sick?</blockquote> Can't bring yourself to give Rudy credit for a good line?

There’s a joke floating around that if we implement government-run health care in the US, where will Canadians find a doctor when they get sick?

Can’t bring yourself to give Rudy credit for a good line?

]]> By: Socialized medicine in Canada — broken « Absolute Moral Authority http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738517 Socialized medicine in Canada — broken « Absolute Moral Authority Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:25:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738517 [...] via Hot Air [...] [...] via Hot Air [...]

]]> By: nailinmyeye http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738384 nailinmyeye Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:16:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738384 Living in Canada, I can say that for regular doctor visits, I haven't had all that much of a problem. And my wife's pregnancy has been amazing, especially in dealing with doctors and the hospital. However, I have a chronic pain condition requiring the treatment of a neurologist, and that has been up and down for me. Very long wait times to see a neuro, and I am currently in the middle of a 6 month waiting period before I can see someone at Toronto's only (as far as I know) Pain Management Clinic. And I have severe pain on a daily basis. My family doctor is very caring, but the wait times are out of his hands. Though I only had the condition for 1 year while still in the States, and so my experience is more limited, my care was more timely. In the UK, it was the same, though - very long wait time to see a neuro, reluctance to prescribe meds that happen to be expensive even though they are the right ones, and an incredibly long wait time for an MRI. Maybe when I get back to the States, I can get someone to fix my damn head. Living in Canada, I can say that for regular doctor visits, I haven’t had all that much of a problem. And my wife’s pregnancy has been amazing, especially in dealing with doctors and the hospital.

However, I have a chronic pain condition requiring the treatment of a neurologist, and that has been up and down for me. Very long wait times to see a neuro, and I am currently in the middle of a 6 month waiting period before I can see someone at Toronto’s only (as far as I know) Pain Management Clinic. And I have severe pain on a daily basis. My family doctor is very caring, but the wait times are out of his hands.

Though I only had the condition for 1 year while still in the States, and so my experience is more limited, my care was more timely.

In the UK, it was the same, though – very long wait time to see a neuro, reluctance to prescribe meds that happen to be expensive even though they are the right ones, and an incredibly long wait time for an MRI.

Maybe when I get back to the States, I can get someone to fix my damn head.

]]> By: MirCat http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738286 MirCat Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:31:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738286 Learn to speak Spanish my friends. - The Cat Learn to speak Spanish my friends.

- The Cat

]]> By: DrSteve http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738175 DrSteve Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:39:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738175 Friend of mine, politically very liberal, pacifist, from a big Mennonite family in Wisconsin and Ontario. Her mom's a nurse in Ontario, and the *only* liberal project they're not on board for 100% is Canadian Medicare. The whole crew just rails on it whenever I see them. They consider a lot of the wait times inhumane, since people sometimes have to deal with worry, or chronic pain, or both, for months on end. The latest Fraser report is out, and wait times have doubled in 14 years. Friend of mine, politically very liberal, pacifist, from a big Mennonite family in Wisconsin and Ontario. Her mom’s a nurse in Ontario, and the *only* liberal project they’re not on board for 100% is Canadian Medicare. The whole crew just rails on it whenever I see them. They consider a lot of the wait times inhumane, since people sometimes have to deal with worry, or chronic pain, or both, for months on end.

The latest Fraser report is out, and wait times have doubled in 14 years.

]]> By: tickleddragon http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738140 tickleddragon Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:23:24 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738140 At least the Canadians have hope in crossing the border to come here and get timely treatment... Once HillaryCare is instated, where the hell are we going to be able to go?? At least the Canadians have hope in crossing the border to come here and get timely treatment… Once HillaryCare is instated, where the hell are we going to be able to go??

]]> By: Kini http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738108 Kini Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:05:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738108 This is very much true in Canada. I have family there and they tell me this is a real problem for them. This is very much true in Canada. I have family there and they tell me this is a real problem for them.

]]> By: madmonaco http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738060 madmonaco Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:37:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738060 Wow. You can almost hear the pain in that Canadian doc's voice. He's really disillusioned that he can't take care of people in a timely fashion. Wow. You can almost hear the pain in that Canadian doc’s voice. He’s really disillusioned that he can’t take care of people in a timely fashion.

]]> By: srhoades http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738038 srhoades Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:20:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738038 I read a column on Townhall (can't remember by whom) that stated when a good idea is voted down in Congress it is killed. But when a bad idea is voted down it is merely sleeping. S CHIP should be eliminated completely, Medicare and Medicade as well. Let the market take over and health care becomes affordable, put artifical limits on the market and it becomes too expensive (in more ways that just the economic sense) for everyone. Then again what do I know, I'm an evil conservative. . . . Oh, Geraldo should just spit on me now. I read a column on Townhall (can’t remember by whom) that stated when a good idea is voted down in Congress it is killed. But when a bad idea is voted down it is merely sleeping. S CHIP should be eliminated completely, Medicare and Medicade as well. Let the market take over and health care becomes affordable, put artifical limits on the market and it becomes too expensive (in more ways that just the economic sense) for everyone.

Then again what do I know, I’m an evil conservative. . . . Oh, Geraldo should just spit on me now.

]]> By: Mojack420 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738037 Mojack420 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:20:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738037 <blockquote>The doctor is still practicing medicine in Toronto. Tenbatsu on October 17, 2007 at 1:15 PM</blockquote> maybe after a little more practice she might get it right .

The doctor is still practicing medicine in Toronto.

Tenbatsu on October 17, 2007 at 1:15 PM

maybe after a little more practice she might get it right .

]]> By: Tenbatsu http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738024 Tenbatsu Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:15:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738024 This video is right on the money. Canadians wait months for "non-critical" operations such as hip replacements and very important surgeries are frequently reclassified as electives. The most terrifying thing however is the fact that because health care is government provided, they use their own government lawyers to fight off malpractice suits - spending literally millions of dollars in legal fees to avoid making and kind of payout. In my case I had an operation done in Canada by a doctor who assured me she was an expert in a procedure designed by a doctor in Virginia. Turns out after the operation failed, that she had never trained with the designer and was sort of making it up as she went along. I had to go to Virginia to have the operation done again (made more difficult because it was the second time - boo infection). Fortunately the difference was night and day and every member of the hospital staff was amazing - skilled and highly caring. Oh and I couldn't sue for the six months of lost work due to the estimated costs in lawyer fees and the very small percentage of these cases that actually are decided for the plaintiff. The government did help to pay for the US operation though. The doctor is still practicing medicine in Toronto. This video is right on the money. Canadians wait months for “non-critical” operations such as hip replacements and very important surgeries are frequently reclassified as electives. The most terrifying thing however is the fact that because health care is government provided, they use their own government lawyers to fight off malpractice suits – spending literally millions of dollars in legal fees to avoid making and kind of payout.

In my case I had an operation done in Canada by a doctor who assured me she was an expert in a procedure designed by a doctor in Virginia. Turns out after the operation failed, that she had never trained with the designer and was sort of making it up as she went along. I had to go to Virginia to have the operation done again (made more difficult because it was the second time – boo infection). Fortunately the difference was night and day and every member of the hospital staff was amazing – skilled and highly caring.

Oh and I couldn’t sue for the six months of lost work due to the estimated costs in lawyer fees and the very small percentage of these cases that actually are decided for the plaintiff. The government did help to pay for the US operation though. The doctor is still practicing medicine in Toronto.

]]> By: Bad Candy http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738017 Bad Candy Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:10:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738017 <strike>About</strike> Aboot it, I've actually thought of the same comparison between the Trabant and Universal Health Care before, so I'm glad I'm not the only one to see that comparison, eh... About Aboot it, I’ve actually thought of the same comparison between the Trabant and Universal Health Care before, so I’m glad I’m not the only one to see that comparison, eh…

]]> By: MadisonConservative http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738016 MadisonConservative Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:10:29 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738016 I'd say startling movie, but this is one of about 7 or 8 I've seen, all with the same story. Why has a feature film about this not been made already, considering these stories have had documentaries made about them for nearly a decade? A full-length release of these stories in theaters could blow Sicko completely and utterly out of the water, even to the large percentage of people who think state-sponsored health care would work. I’d say startling movie, but this is one of about 7 or 8 I’ve seen, all with the same story. Why has a feature film about this not been made already, considering these stories have had documentaries made about them for nearly a decade?

A full-length release of these stories in theaters could blow Sicko completely and utterly out of the water, even to the large percentage of people who think state-sponsored health care would work.

]]> By: JimK http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738014 JimK Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:09:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738014 Scary! Scary!

]]> By: Ochlan http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738009 Ochlan Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:03:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738009 I'm investing in the future market for pliers I’m investing in the future market for pliers

]]> By: saint kansas http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738008 saint kansas Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:03:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738008 On the plus side of Hillarycare, Yakov Smirnoff will return to Russia and enjoy a career renaissance telling America jokes. On the plus side of Hillarycare, Yakov Smirnoff will return to Russia and enjoy a career renaissance telling America jokes.

]]> By: Irenaeus http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/comment-page-1/#comment-738001 Irenaeus Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:00:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/video-free-market-cures-the-lemon/#comment-738001 I am First! What do a Soviet-era car and government run health care in the US have in common? They both don't work? I am First!

What do a Soviet-era car and government run health care in the US have in common?

They both don’t work?

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