The guy became to big for darn near everything moving in the Navy.

My husband had to sign a waiver before they’d let him on the Eisenhower. (And was he ever sorry he signed it – Ikeatraz, as he calls it, was in the Indian Ocean for about 9 months and only had two brief shore leaves.) And he’s “only” 6’2″.

Robinson’s growth would’ve been noted at his pre-graduation physical, and his choices limited to those careers he was qualified for. Although it’s not unheard of for physical restrictions to be waived for Academy sports stars.

James on October 17, 2007 at 3:56 PM

I stand corrected, but according to a bit of Googling, his growth spurt disqualified him for almost all deployment roles in the Navy. Physical restrictions may be waived but reality can’t be. The guy became to big for darn near everything moving in the Navy.

When in a crowd being chased by a lion, one doesn’t have to be the FASTEST runner, just not the slowest!

baldilocks on October 17, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Nobody at any of the Service Academies gets a contract to go to a particular branch when they are Fourthclassmen. Attrition makes it impossible to chart out who will go where until shortly before graduation.

The MOS/AFSC selection is done as Firstclassmen, as an event at USMA/USNA, through an application process at USAFA with the results released through squadron mail distribution…the equivalent ‘event’ for USAFA is choosing pilot training bases and start dates for those who are going.

Robinson’s growth would’ve been noted at his pre-graduation physical, and his choices limited to those careers he was qualified for. Although it’s not unheard of for physical restrictions to be waived for Academy sports stars.

Uhh, Jesus was talking about personal insults, not serving in the military.
srhoades on October 17, 2007 at 1:37 PM

Jesus suffered a lot worse than personal insults. But he took it all upon himself. Jesus didn’t desert his post and run back home to mommy; He HIMSELF went into the lair of his enemies.

When liberals say “turn the other cheek,” they are always referring to someone else’s cheek. And that’s what Peter – “I’m more like Jesus than you are” – Brown believes in.

If Mr. Brown really wanted to follow the example of the guy whose robes he’s hiding behind, he wouldn’t go to preach in Iowa; he’d go and proselytize the terrorists.

Jesus was the bravest man who ever lived. Mr. Brown is the exact opposite; he is a coward, a liar and a thief – and there is absolutely nothing Christian about any of that.

“In following Jesus’ example, I could not have fired my weapon at another human being, even if he were shooting at me,” said Brown, who plans to continue seminary classes he began by correspondence while in Iraq…

Uhh, Jesus was talking about personal insults, not serving in the military. Cornelius (first gentile convert) was a soldier, the centurian was not turned away by Jesus when he asked that his servant be healed, John the Baptist did not tell the soldiers that came to him for advise on living righteously to quit being soldiers; he told them to treat noncombatants humanely, apply laws equally to everyone and to be satisfied in their wages (ie take no bribes or extortion). And do I even have to mention that great Christian soldier Alvin York who struggled with the issue himself and ended up winning the CMH.

Had this guy said it was a matter of his own conscience or Spiritual leading I wouldn’t question his motives. But don’t blame Jesus because you don’t want to be a soldier anymore. Jesus also warned not to go back on your word which is what this guy is doing by not fulfilling the one to three years left on his contract.

Could have fooled me, by the nature of your comments here.

conservnut on October 17, 2007 at 10:12 AM

You must fool easily then and the nature of your comments forces me to conclude that you have an exceedingly binary view of things.

EVEN THOUGH THY NEIGHBOR IS INCLINED TO CHOP OFF THY HEAD.

RedWinged Blackbird on October 16, 2007 at 8:59 PM

You’re 100% correct.

“But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person.” Mat 5:39, words of Christ

Christians are wise to be disobedient to their god in this instance. A pure follower of Christ would let evil men have their way.

Remember David Robinson? he was in the Naval Academy and they let him go to the pros because the PR for the navy was too tempting to pass up.

Bradky on October 16, 2007 at 9:25 PM

David Robinson had a contract with the Navy to be a pilot. When Robinson was a freshman he was at maximum pilot height. During his four years at the USNA, he grew seven more inches (he’s over seven feet tall)–too tall to fit in a cockpit. So the Navy voided his contract.

Contrast this situation with that of Napoleon McCallum, a football player who also graduated from the USNA. He wanted out of his six year commitment also, but the Navy said “no way,” PR considerations notwithstanding.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

Our strategy is to destroy the enemy from within, to conquer him through himself.
- Adolf Hitler

Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.

Romans 13:4 For he [the government] is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

1. Multiple examples of Jews and Christians serving in government capacity.

2. Part of the government’s job is to weild the sword (in justice and defense).

3. One must ignore the main body of Scriptural teaching in order to come to a pacifist position.

What this guy is doing is taking one part of Scripture and using it to say something running totally counter to the rest of Scripture. As a Methodist I have a serious problem with that. In both the Old and New Testaments there are many examples of where God not only condones but commands war.

I do not read the “Move on handbook” and I guess that you must have missed by Cindy S. ditty.

MB4 on October 17, 2007 at 12:57 AM

Could have fooled me, by the nature of your comments here.

Laura on October 17, 2007 at 9:02 AM

BINGO!

C.S. Lewis’s lecture entitled “Why I’m Not a Pacifist”
Weight of Glory on October 16, 2007 at 9:39 PM

I wondered if that’s where you got your nic. :-) That article isn’t online anywhere I can find, but here’s the money quote for those who are interested –

“The doctrine that war is always a greater evil seems to imply a materialist ethic, a belief that death and pain are the greatest evils. But I do not think they are. I think the suppression of a higher religion by a lower, or even a higher secular culture by a lower, a much greater evil. Nor am I greatly moved by the fact that many of the individuals we strike down in war are innocent. […] The question is whether war is the greatest evil in the world, so that any state of affairs which might result from submission is certainly preferable. And I do not see any really cogent arguments for that view.”

Jesus was a coward? Who knew?
HerrMorgenholz on October 16, 2007 at 9:15 PM

That’s news to me too. I sure as heck don’t remember the part of the story where Jesus “redeployed” to a safe area…

Here’s an idea: if you claim that you want to be like Jesus, then BE LIKE JESUS. Walk into the terrorists’ stronghold and convert them.

If one of these conscientious appeasers is willing to do that, he will have my both my respect and my sympathy. Otherwise, they can take their so-called “faith” and shove it up their asses.

That is the bargain he struck. He must be compelled to honor it.

That, my friend is right out of the Move on handbook. Unless you think that Soros and Cindy S. have been right all along. huh?

conservnut on October 17, 2007 at 12:24 AM

I do not read the “Move on handbook” and I guess that you must have missed by Cindy S. ditty.

I say that to say I’d rather have serve next to a man who swears up and down he hates war but serves in a war just the same than a man who says that now that he’s seen war, he refuses to have any part of it.

I do not know the politics of the 12 former Army Captains, but I doubt that many if any, are leftists.

MB4 on October 17, 2007 at 12:12 AM

I might have agreed with you except for this last paragraph.

There is one way we might be able to succeed in Iraq. To continue an operation of this intensity and duration, we

would have to abandon our volunteer military for compulsory service. Short of that, our best option is to leave Iraq immediately. A scaled withdrawal will not prevent a civil war, and it will spend more blood and treasure on a losing proposition.

America, it has been five years. It’s time to make a choice.

That, my friend is right out of the Move on handbook. Unless you think that Soros and Cindy S. have been right all along. huh?