AP: Fred to lower the boom on Rudy in speech tonight
posted at 1:53 pm on October 15, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Live from New York, to boot. It is, finally and officially, on:
Republican presidential contender Fred Thompson swipes at GOP rival Rudy Giuliani in a speech he plans to give Monday night on the former New York mayor’s home turf.
“Some think the way to beat the Democrats in November is to be more like them. I could not disagree more,” the one-time Tennessee senator says in remarks he is to deliver before the Conservative Party of New York.
“I believe that conservatives beat liberals only when we challenge their outdated positions, not embrace them. This is not a time for philosophical flexibility, it is a time to stand up for what we believe in,” Thompson adds…
“With me, what you see is what you get. I was a proud conservative yesterday, I remain one today, and I will be one tomorrow,” Thompson says.
That last line is as much a shot at Mitt as Rudy, thus confirming that this is Fred’s entry into the “real Republican” derby from this weekend. Politico sees an unstated alliance developing out of that between Giuliani and McCain contra Mitt, which makes sense insofar as they’re both centrists who need to hurdle the social con but not so much sense insofar as Fred’s much the bigger threat than Mitt is. Or is he? McCain needs a strong showing in Iowa or New Hampshire to resuscitate his campaign and Mitt’s the big dog in those states at the moment. Mitt’s also the only major candidate not to have received Dobson’s kiss of death; maybe they figure by knocking him out early, they take the religious right largely out of the equation in the primaries, thus boosting their own chances. That’s if you believe the religious right is going to come out strong for the Mormon candidate over the familiar southern Republican. Exit question: Anyone see that happening? Anyone?
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How do you know you can’t remember if you don’t remember?
abrown28 on October 15, 2007 at 4:34 PM
Talking to the Europeans, that is…
Entelechy on October 15, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Dobson may be backtracking a little. But I understand his dilemma. I’m a Reagan Republican who has always voted straight party GOP. But last November I voted Constitution. I’m tired of the Rinos and the party moving to the left leaving me behind. I’m not voting for Rudy. I’d rather vote for a good candidate who loses than bad candidate who might be able to win.
Sebastian on October 15, 2007 at 4:35 PM
It was legal, that is true and legal fits the definition, from then of draft dodging. It may have changed some to those past a certain age, but what Rudy did was the text book case of draft dodging. I do not think that it was that disgraceful. He can be a mayor of NYC again or governor of New York state, but I sure do not want him as U.S. President. Now if he was like Tancredo or Hunter on illegal “immigration”, I would probably give him a pass, but he isn’t and I don’t.
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 4:37 PM
There you go again.
Again, that is not at all what I said, nor was it at all the case.
I don’t think that we re getting very far here.
Hillary will very likely beat him anyway, so it is probably academic.
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 4:41 PM
What about after the primary?
Would you go 3rd party, sit it out (a vote for Hillary), or something else?
omnipotent on October 15, 2007 at 4:44 PM
Truth be told, I didn’t “force” my way in because I’m so brave.
I think it was more that my father and uncles had all been in and most of my friends were going in. It was expected back then.
Maybe most of all – I could not stand being rejected by the Army, which had an exaggerated reputation of taking in anyone with a pulse.
That was probably the main thing, that and being young and
stupidnaiveMB4 on October 15, 2007 at 4:47 PM
Roll eyes, roll eyes, roll eyes!!!
Roll eyes, roll eyes, roll eyes!!!
Roll eyes, roll eyes, roll eyes!!!
Is Rudy your dad or what?
No that can’t be as all his children seem to hate him!!!
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 4:51 PM
Actually there is Duncan Hunter I believe.
Also Hillary, in a way. Keeping Bill even part way under control was probably pretty much like a military campaign.
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 4:55 PM
Now that, as a many generation military family person, is a sentiment I can fully understand and relate to.
doriangrey on October 15, 2007 at 4:58 PM
John Kerry’s secret MySpace entry:
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Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator John Forbes Kerry from the great state of Massachusetts. You can call me JFK if you want. I was born on December 11, 1943, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger. It’s probably my great hair and rugged good looks.
I graduated from Yale in June 1966 in the top 1% of my class. To earn extra money during the summers, I loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door. That is probably one of the reasons that I am so humble. Over my four years at Yale, I maintained a 96 grade average and received a 101 average in my senior year.
I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. Probably the only living Senator even a little bit greater than me is my dear friend Ted Moore Kennedy. I also have a very high IQ. Very high. Much higher than that creep who stole the election from me. I know that he stole it because exit polls are never ever wrong.
I am also a great war hero. I set all kinds of records for heroism when I was in Vietnam. I was grievously wounded at least three times yet continued to insist on staying in the fight when lesser men would have given up. I won the bronze star with extra V’s for extra valor and the Silver Star for defeating a whole battalion of NVA with my bare hands.
I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini with my good friend Ted. We usually have a servant bring 21 double martinis. I get one and Ted gets one for each of his fingers and each of his toes. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never marry women for just their money. They must also have a pulse. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam? I was also in Cambodia, so don’t forget that!
I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, heroic and trustworthy. And I appreciate the same qualities in others although I am realistic enough to know that no one else could come close to me.
Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. Other great war heroes who hate that damn S-T-U-P-I-D Texan in the White House. Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together, talk about you for about 30 second and then spend about 3 hours talking about me. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam and Cambodia? Just one more BTW, if anyone has found my magic hat please return to me.
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 5:02 PM
I was talking about the general. That’s why I don’t want Rudy to win the primary.
Maybe the Republican party should schism. That would allow the Rinos to take the center and allow Republicans to hold the right. I think independents would be more willing to vote for the Rinos than Dinos, which means less success for the Democrats. And then none of the parties would be able to hold a majority.
You’d have to have coalitions to get anything done. But at least you knew what the parties and candidates stood for without all the deception and pandering.
And it’s not end of the world if Hillary wins.
Sebastian on October 15, 2007 at 5:13 PM
vid’s up on home page
RushBaby on October 15, 2007 at 5:18 PM
It had better not be, because at this moment of action it looks like she probably will win.
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 5:18 PM
MB4, thanks for being honest about your service, and still many thanks for serving. Thanks again also for the JFK entertainment.
Sebastian, better watch your thoughts. You too MB4, at 5:18
On to the thread RushBaby so kindly is hushing us to :)
Entelechy on October 15, 2007 at 5:23 PM
The Romney signs are appearing more and more here in NH. All the signs are just a trickle yet, but Mitt, Hillary and Ron Paul are the most prevalent so far.
jeanie on October 15, 2007 at 5:39 PM
No, just trying to figure out your rather…nuanced…position on deferments. From what I’ve read, it seems to be that deferments are fine, unless they’re Giuliani’s deferments, which are bad.
Slublog on October 15, 2007 at 5:55 PM
How many ways do I hve to explain it?
What do I have to do? Put it to rhyme?
You just don’t want to believe it no matter what.
What we got here is… failure to communicate.
- Captain, Road Prison 36
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 6:33 PM
You’re awfully fond of telling others what they believe, aren’t you?
Slublog on October 15, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Why does Fred always need to advertise what he is going to do or say ahead of time? Seems kind of weak.
Bradky on October 15, 2007 at 6:49 PM
Aye yah ye yai, i’m you little butterfly, sweet like the moon, making colours in the sky, aye yah ye yai, aye yah ye yai, aye yah ye yai ………
MB4 on October 15, 2007 at 6:51 PM
Um…Gotta tell ya, I think I prefer your “Fred Man” song.
Slublog on October 15, 2007 at 6:53 PM
a strong statement by Fred. Ronald Reagan like IMO. Reagan did the same in 1980. when everyone was running for more government to fix the carter mess Reagan said no it should be less government. Fred’s message if it every gets out will be deafening. I see an effort by the media and the rest of the Reps to paint him as lazy and no fire in the belly. It matters not. the message will win. Side Note Huckabee was on CNBC this morning talking about the fair tax. I like both men. Rudy wants to take my guns and regulate my internet. Mitt has some good ideas but he reminds me of Hillary saying whatever we want to hear for our vote.
unseen on October 15, 2007 at 7:10 PM
Right back at ya babe!
csdeven on October 15, 2007 at 7:34 PM
Hey where ever we do the San Diego get together thing, we are definitely going to need to rent a limo, because by the time you and me are done drinking, neither of us is going to be able to walk……
Csdeven said it perfectly…….
doriangrey on October 15, 2007 at 7:39 PM
OK, a lot of these you can google the term “fred thompson __________ (enter other term here)” and you’d get these among others.
1) Dictator
2) Asbestos
3) Abortion
4) Terrorists
5) McCain/Feingold
6) Nuke plant
7) Funneling cash
8) I forgot the S&L deal
csdeven on October 15, 2007 at 10:20 PM
I’d like to know what Fred did to csdeven. He keeps repeating the s.o.s. about Fred on every thread.
Texas Nick 77 on October 16, 2007 at 5:43 AM
He csd, is that you once donated some money to his campaign, just before he dropped out and started that PAC?
Texas Nick 77 on October 16, 2007 at 5:54 AM
Because it draws out the people who would rather fixate on me instead of dealing with the facts about Fred.
csdeven on October 16, 2007 at 6:08 AM
Well, if I had my ‘druthers,’ the nominee would be Duncan Hunter. But, as we discussed in a previous thread, his campaign seems to be going nowhere. That being the case, my second choice has to be Fred. His positions on gun crontrol (hitting your target), immigration (do it legally and you’ll be welcome), taxes (keep them low), etc. are closer to mine than the other two front-runners.
And just to be clear again, regardless of who wins the nomination, I will vote Republican in the general.
Texas Nick 77 on October 16, 2007 at 6:22 AM
I wish I knew more about Hunter, but I hear good things from San Diego. I am hoping that he will find a spot in the 08 republican presidency to prepare him for the presidency some day.
And I, like you, will support whoever the rep nominee is.
csdeven on October 16, 2007 at 7:37 AM
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