Tucker Carlson to the left: Knock it off with the Ron Paul crap, please

posted at 3:29 pm on October 14, 2007 by Allahpundit

Speaking of candidates who make Hillary Clinton seem appealing by comparison, here’s Carlson trying to explain to the Paulnut morons seen carrying those “rEVOLution” signs at rallies that love isn’t exactly the core value of the Bircher ethos. I wonder what the ratio is in Paul’s base between true believing libertarians who really do long for a return to small government laissez faire constitutionalism and Truthers, tax protesters, college kids looking for an “alternative” candidate, and other assorted characters from the Star Wars bar scene of American politics looking to register a protest vote and coalescing around the guy who believes in the North American Union and a new Gulf of Tonkin inicident in the offing in the Persian Gulf. Ice that cake with a thick layer of Strange New Respect for him among leftists because of his anti-war stance and you’ve got a guy whom its downright trendy to like, especially given the weak Republican field that’s sharply at odds with most of the public on Iraq.

The most amusing part here is Maher’s sheepish confession that he doesn’t agree with Paul on everything after Carlson brings up some his more stridently libertarian proposals. That’s an odd position for a self-professed libertarian like Maher to take, but as Jonah Goldberg once said, he’s not really a libertarian — he’s a libertine in search of a label that’s slightly more exalted.


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he’s a libertine in search of a label that’s slightly more exalted.

Sort of like an Atheist ?

William Amos on October 14, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Yep, that’s me, all right. Libertine all the way.

Allahpundit on October 14, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Poor Ron Paul, He gets about as much respect as the Truthers. He should get NONE! and the libs like him, go figure.

abinitioadinfinitum on October 14, 2007 at 3:41 PM

…and other assorted characters from the Star Wars bar scene of American politics…

I’ve met them.
It’s so true.

harrison on October 14, 2007 at 3:43 PM

What I dont gte from the Paulites is the need for them to cheat for a guy they claim is so moral.

If they realy want to run a clean campaign and prove their guy is the real deal then why fake all the support for him ?

By being dishonest they make Paul dishonest

William Amos on October 14, 2007 at 3:45 PM

My poor Tucker, on stage with those three nimrods.

Anwyn on October 14, 2007 at 3:45 PM

We could start a “Libertinian Party”. Restricted to small-L libertarians with actual social skills, and conservative atheists.

Hmmmm … that might end up being a damned small party …. nevermind.

Kristopher on October 14, 2007 at 3:46 PM

he’s not really a libertarian — he’s a libertine in search of a label that’s slightly more exalted.

HAHA.

Theworldisnotenough on October 14, 2007 at 3:48 PM

Tucker lost something when he lost those bowties…

But yeah, Ron Paul doesn’t focus enough on what makes him what he is. He talks about taxes, he talks about the war, but he doesn’t talk about the more radical beliefs that necessarily have to follow from these statements. I was talking with my Paulbot friend and he thought Paul was doing a good job of bringing all of these issues to the table, but I don’t think he mentions them nearly enough.

And when he does they just get ignored. If people REALLY looked into Ron Paul they would be revolted. And all that would be left would be the libertarians, and some anti-war republicans.

Keljeck on October 14, 2007 at 3:49 PM

I mean, when LewRockwell.com is giving Ron Paul acolades like this:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/snyder-joshua1.html

Something is up.

Keljeck on October 14, 2007 at 3:53 PM

Finally someone (Tucker) exposes the libertarians for what they are. Drug freaks who want the freedom to do every drug under the sun without having to give up every aspect of the nanny state.
hahaha

csdeven on October 14, 2007 at 3:57 PM

Tucker makes a good point,(once in a while) it’s fashionable for idiots like the panel here, to praise Paul for making a couple of common sense soundbites. Taken in his totality, these three would be appalled at what Ron Paul really believes and suggests.

commonsensehoosier on October 14, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Finally someone (Tucker) exposes the libertarians for what they are. Drug freaks who want the freedom to do every drug under the sun without having to give up every aspect of the nanny state
Um do you know anything about libertarians?

liberrocky on October 14, 2007 at 4:02 PM

… and other assorted characters from the Star Wars bar scene of American politics …

AP

Allah, I thought you were a big Rush hater? You stole the line he has been using for 20 years.

Jaibones on October 14, 2007 at 4:05 PM

We all know what happens when America elects a feckless weakling. Ron Paul doesn’t stand a chance.

Black Adam on October 14, 2007 at 4:07 PM

Sort of like an Atheist ?

William Amos on October 14, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Nice. Not at all indicative of a bigotted, intolerant individual who would rather deal in insults instead of argument.

student on October 14, 2007 at 4:26 PM

I’m just wondering what the Paul Patrol is going to say come the primaries and caucuses…when their guy, who was getting over 70% in the online and straw polls, really ends up with maybe 2% or 3% in actual voting.

As for who’s Ron Paul’s base…I really think you nailed it, AP. So far as I’ve found, the ratio of Truthers to all the others you mentioned is about 2 to 1. Again, that’s just my experience with the Paul Patrol.

JetBoy on October 14, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Mahar is a dolt. He loves Ron? So, when Ron says the towers were attacked on foreign soil by 19 thugs, Bill is cool with it.

On-my-soap-box on October 14, 2007 at 4:28 PM

liberrocky on October 14, 2007 at 4:02 PM

Yeah. I’ve had to put up with their craziness for 30 years.

csdeven on October 14, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Allah, did you absolutely have to include the sniveling, little Paul Krugman at the end? Doesn’t the other Paul — Ron — do enough whining for one video?

sondiehl on October 14, 2007 at 4:40 PM

csdeven: Yeah. I’ve had to put up with their craziness for 30 years.
Why are you married to one?

liberrocky on October 14, 2007 at 4:40 PM

Mahar is a dolt. He loves Ron? So, when Ron says the towers were attacked on foreign soil by 19 thugs, Bill is cool with it.

On-my-soap-box on October 14, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Hmmm, good question since it was Bill Mahar that praised those 19 thugs for having the courage to act on their religious convictions.

doriangrey on October 14, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Does anybody else think Paul Krugman’s body language makes him look like he’s prepared to bolt and run at any moment? Seriously. He looks like a guy who stiffed a loan shark last week and now has to walk down the dude’s block.

Well-Armed Lamb on October 14, 2007 at 4:59 PM

The Disingenuousness Four

Kini on October 14, 2007 at 5:24 PM

Yep, that’s me, all right. Libertine all the way.

No way Moongod. You don’t even have embroidery on your jacket, ruffles on your shirt, or even an I-Phone.

Actually I wonder if Ron Paul is a Lib plant, because he seems to be suckin’ all the air outta the Obama base.

Iblis on October 14, 2007 at 5:28 PM

Who cares what Bill Maher says or Tucker Carlson for that matter who finally ditched the inside the beltway Bow Tie crap.

Tucker Carlson telling everyone that he is a conservative is the biggest joke of all.

ScottyDog on October 14, 2007 at 5:56 PM

Tucker Carlson telling everyone that he is a conservative is the biggest joke of all.

ScottyDog on October 14, 2007 at 5:56 PM

C’mon. Give Tucker a break. He’s still young and is a product of East coast liberalism. I think it’s courageous of him, and any relatively young person, like college kids, to battle the tide. It’s hard when you’re young to stand apart from your peers. People mature and master how to do that. (That’s one of the things that makes our young soldiers so amazing.) It’s the old, disgusting liberals, who are too stupid to know better–like the guy running that show, and that Behar abomination.

JiangxiDad on October 14, 2007 at 6:08 PM

Ron Paul is the Chuck Norris of the Republican Party.

Ali-Bubba on October 14, 2007 at 6:16 PM

Ali-Bubba on October 14, 2007 at 6:16 PM

Well, they are similar in the respect that both of them have some rational but the have rabid kooky fans who make more of those traits than they should.

csdeven on October 14, 2007 at 6:39 PM

Why do I hate Krugman so much?

RightWinged on October 14, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Do these Liberals know the Constitution doesn’t provide for universal healthcare?

amerpundit on October 14, 2007 at 6:47 PM

Well, they are similar in the respect that both of them have some rational but the have rabid kooky fans who make more of those traits than they should.

csdeven on October 14, 2007 at 6:39 PM

Don’t quite get that. But maybe what I meant was:

1. Both of them are punchlines to popular jokes.
2. Neither of them will ever be president.

Don’t bother flaming me. It’s satire, like progressives do.

Ali-Bubba on October 14, 2007 at 6:48 PM

Why do I hate Krugman so much?

RightWinged on October 14, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Probably because he and basically everyone up there not named “Tucker Carlson” is calling Ron Paul “the only sane man left” in the Republican field, while showcasing that all of those mental midgets have no *&%&^ing clue who Ron Paul is or what he supports.

High class educated liberal discourse: “Wall, I dun no wat he stands fer but he opposes da war, so eets all a good to may, now where’s mai dinnar woman!”

BKennedy on October 14, 2007 at 6:49 PM

Please no more Joyless Babar in the video……..Looks like Rosie’s Aunt…….At least Tucker is standing up (a little) to the other nuts……..

ahkjr33 on October 14, 2007 at 6:52 PM

Nice. Not at all indicative of a bigotted, intolerant individual who would rather deal in insults instead of argument.

student on October 14, 2007 at 4:26 PM

What you dont think Atheist can be biggoted or intolerant either ?

William Amos on October 14, 2007 at 6:59 PM

Gah. Thomas Jefferson sent the US Navy off to attack the Isalmic state of Tripoli to free enslaved Americans and only got round to telling Congress after the fleet too far gone to recall. It was America’s first illegal war, JEFERSON LIED! PEOPLE DIED!, blah blah Islamophobia blah blah blah. It was more than Jimmy Carter did.

aengus on October 14, 2007 at 7:10 PM

Um Julius Caesar didn’t precede democracy.

aengus on October 14, 2007 at 7:13 PM

I really hate how Bill Maher runs his panel. He gets one absolutely insane left wing nut (Krugman), one person who knows what they’re talking about, and one semi-celebrity who shouldn’t be talking politics in the first place.

God I hate his show.

Its Tommy on October 14, 2007 at 7:34 PM

Joy-brain-come-find-me-I-desperately-need-you, “whaaaa those social services are not in the constitution? Wow, I learned so much just by sitting here and going ga, ga, ga…”

Entelechy on October 14, 2007 at 7:42 PM

I love me some Tucker. A product of East Coast liberalism. Hardly, he’s from Cally.

Spirit of 1776 on October 14, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Finally someone (Tucker) exposes the libertarians for what they are. Drug freaks who want the freedom to do every drug under the sun without having to give up every aspect of the nanny state.
hahaha

csdeven on October 14, 2007 at 3:57 PM

With a dash of late-19th-century anarchism thrown in.

steveegg on October 14, 2007 at 8:09 PM

Ron Paul is the Chuck Norris of the Republican Party.

Ali-Bubba on October 14, 2007 at 6:16 PM

More like Jean-Claude Van Damme.

steveegg on October 14, 2007 at 8:11 PM

More like Jean-Claude Van Damme.

steveegg on October 14, 2007 at 8:11 PM

More like the Lisa Lampinelli. Only popular among the young because he’s a whore for every dark little thing or theory that comes around.

BKennedy on October 14, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Ron Paul is the Chuck Norris of the Republican Party.

Ali-Bubba on October 14, 2007 at 6:16 PM

Actually, isn’t Chuck Norris the Chuck Norris of the Republican party?

liquidflorian on October 14, 2007 at 8:23 PM

Ron Paul is the Chuck Norris of the Republican Party

More like the up-Chuck of the Republican Party…

JetBoy on October 14, 2007 at 8:25 PM

RightWinged on October 14, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Because is small minded little man who is scared of his own shadow but is such a wannabe. I think the Times should pay us to read his warped writings. Maybe, these are just some of the reasons why you hate Kruggie.

d1carter on October 14, 2007 at 9:14 PM

I really hate to admit it, but if the race for POTUS came down to Shrillary or Ron Paul, I’d have to vote for Shrillary (then slash my wrists). This is a demonstration of how much I truly believe Paul to be an absolute lunatic. How this man ever got in office is a complete mystery to me.

thedecider on October 15, 2007 at 12:06 AM

Last weekend was Texas OU weekend, red river rivalry, anyway, you know the green highway signs, the ones that tell ya what exit yer at, well I was back and forth between OKCity n’ Dallas and damn near everyone of those green state highway signs hadda WrongPaul banner, with the gitchy love revolution horsesh*t stamp. Those crazy college kids.
I keep hearing his voice whining about “the blowback effect” … he should cut an album, win a grammy, what a voice, the perfect voice for whining with maximum effect.

christophercube on October 15, 2007 at 12:44 AM

What you dont think Atheist can be biggoted or intolerant either ?

William Amos on October 14, 2007 at 6:59 PM

I’m sure they can, but I don’t see any of them posting rude and inappropriate messages in this thread.

student on October 15, 2007 at 8:02 AM

student on October 15, 2007 at 8:02 AM

Stick around.

csdeven on October 15, 2007 at 8:32 AM

thedecider on October 15, 2007 at 12:06 AM

Ron Paul, being the crazy crank he is, would be universally hated by the left and the right. His plans require congressional approval and there is little that he can do on his own that the congress can’t seriously hamper.

Paul would be the safest choice. Hell, he may be the chosen one that will unite the left and right and bring balance to the force…..er, I mean politics.

Ron Paul. The only man who can save America!

csdeven on October 15, 2007 at 8:35 AM

We could start a “Libertinian Party”. Restricted to small-L libertarians with actual social skills, and conservative atheists.

Could we drink “Libertinis” ?

I wonder what the ratio is in Paul’s base between true believing libertarians who really do long for a return to small government laissez faire constitutionalism and Truthers, tax protesters, college kids looking for an “alternative” candidate, and other assorted characters from the Star Wars bar scene of American politics looking to register a protest vote and coalescing around the guy who believes in the North American Union and a new Gulf of Tonkin inicident in the offing in the Persian Gulf.

My entire religious ultra-conservative family is leaning towards him. Rudy is no good (anti-gun, pro-abortion) and too liberal besides. Romney is no good (Morman, not really pro-gun, not really anti-abortion). Thompson championed McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform (according to Feingold it couldn’t have passed without his help). John McCain is too liberal, plus he seems weak. Tancredo is a nationalist and a racist. And everyone left is below Paul on the radar.

Paul is the only one who is (a) a member of a “mainstream” Christian church, (b) pro-life, (c) pro-2nd Amendment, (d) not in favor of social programs, (e) for securing our borders (without being racist or nationalist), (f) in favor of the 1st Amendment when it comes to political speech. Plus, he’s in favor of abolishing government education and promotes private schools and home schooling.

That’s not to say that he doesn’t have support from “Truthers” (because of his anti-Iraq intervention stance) and from tax protesters (who like him for his small government philosophy) and “college kids” (because he’s the only option if you’re anti-war and pro-capitalism)… but don’t underestimate Conservative Stockholm Syndrome. The last two Republican presidents have been lying big-government stooges (must be genetic). Some people are just tired of getting pandered to by false prophets of conservatism.

Mark Jaquith on October 15, 2007 at 2:27 PM