And the major point of this video was to parody the violence and misogny of much rap by showing what is REALLY important about good woman–that she is a Godly woman who is more intimate with her Bible than she is with assorted men. The message is very clearly to NOT be drawn into seeing women the way rap music tends to do, as objects to be desired because they have big…whatever anatomical parts you like. The type of woman a Christian man should desire is one who has a big heart for the Lord. That will come ’round to bless him in the long run much better than one whose big claim to fame is that she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

It’s using the medium (that sort of music) to contradict its usual message, and a kid will recognize that when s/he sees it.

Bob’s Kid on October 14, 2007 at 2:25 PM

That comment was SO right on it deserved a second look.

“Me so holy” –best line of the video. Whatta creative way to make some points and have fun too!

–Rap Fan Catholic

Church should be about Truth, not about being all down with the latest fads.

Adrian,

FAITH and WORSHIP should be about the Truth. Doing it in a fun way doesn’t cheapen the Gospel or Christian message.

The reason the number of churchgoing Americans is continuing to slide downwards is because too many congregations worship like it is 1899 or go too far in being “inclusive.” Fact of the matter is that I wish Christians would abandon the concept of “church” beginning with a brick and mortar ediface for worship and simply gather as a community each Sunday to WORSHIP without the distractions of who gave the flowers, learning of the administrative decisions made by the ruling board, or the petty squabbles over traditional music v. praise music. All of that is inconsequential.

There is nothing less legitimate in faith to be expressed through a parody on the internet than the legitimacy found in a high mass conducted at St. Patrick’s Cathedral.

Only trumped by WHITE AND NERDY by Weird Al.

And I agree with those that understand that this is not evangelizing…it’s fun for those that are already Christian.

And thanks for the link, Connie, to the Jesus Painting. That was wonderful.

Chris Wyatt, the company’s founder and chief executive, says the site attracts over 3 million unique visitors a month

Huh…and how does this fare against Allah’s Atheist Radio show? Just curious…

An opinion

From a pro-Christian resident atheist.

Oh, by the way, the sermon outline is given on a giant iPod that gets rolled out onto the stage. If you go to TRBC.org you can see any of the streaming videos of the services to see it or the parodies. I think the series started about 6 weeks ago.

And we have drums and guitars (lots of them!) during our worship time. :) Our services tend to be pretty contemporary, although we use a lot of hymns, they’ve usually been updated a bit. :)

Also, BEST. SONG. EVA’! Hat Tip to Hot Air. This is what I love about Christians. We can laugh, we can make fun of ourselves and dang it, we’re just crazy like this. Dunno if anybody is an oldschool DC Talk fan like me, but there…
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Catholics aren’t as “holier than thou” as you’d like to believe. And I do understand that so many non-Catholic Christans have some vendetta against The Church…I know SDA’s consider the Catholic Church to be the “whore of Babylon”.

meh…I’ll stop now. Before I get myself into touble.

JetBoy on October 14, 2007 at 1:21 PM

Don’t mind the Protestants around here, they have a whiny streak about “the papists,” while they go around being cafeteria Christians who shy away from those aspects of Christianity which don’t reflect their personal interpretation of what the Bible says. They think God’s holy Word is best interpreted through a council of locally elected ministers, or at least that is what it seems to be given the fact a new protestant church splinters off every couple of months.

Now, I usually reserve my anti-Protestant claws to go along and get along, but I get rather tired when the most boistrous, pushy, obnoxious, loud-mouthed elements of Christianity start whining about “those holier-than-thou papists.”

Entertainment value = 10
Evangelistic Value = questionable

My two cents…

ulyses on October 14, 2007 at 11:27 AM

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I think this is really just entertainment more for people who already are Christians. I doubt it’s really meant for an evangelism tool, it’s just supposed to be funny.
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Same thing with bumber stickers…obviously a person isn’t going to get saved from reading one, but I really doubt anybody thought that was the point of having them anyways. Other people can have crude joke bumber stickers, why can’t we have Bible verse ones? That’s really all there is to it.

doriangrey on October 14, 2007 at 2:54 PM

That’s a good one too! Great study Bible. Don’t have one though.

Gosh, Bibles are expensive!

“Makes me so Holy”.

Is it sac-religious to laugh at that???

I prefer that one too. I jumped for joy when it came out. Don’t spend enough time it it, though. I’m feeling this is a good reminder that I should spend a little more

Bob’s Kid on October 14, 2007 at 2:52 PM

Got to say I prefer a Thompson Chain myself…

doriangrey on October 14, 2007 at 2:38 PM

I agree with everything you say–I’m not a musician, but yearned for good Christian music in my teens. The Houseplant song by AA sums up that era pretty well.

And for me, a good worship band is a must-have in a church–I’ve recently had to leave the church where I worshipped since I was 15 because my former spouse still attends, and it ain’t easy to find one that is:

Big enough to have varied services for varied folks (kids, singles, etc.) but not too big
Conservative, Evangelical, but not fundie
Bible-based (not Burger King)
Pro-Israel
Pro-life
Pro-science
And a killer worship band, preferably at an early Sunday AM service.

Close to home would be nice too. I think I will be looking for a looooong time.

Myself, I go for an NIV gal.

I prefer that one too. I jumped for joy when it came out. Don’t spend enough time it it, though. I’m feeling this is a good reminder that I should spend a little more

I particularly liked how his “Southpaw” bling was on his right hand.;-)

A child of the 70s I guess.

Bob’s Kid on October 14, 2007 at 2:05 PM

Let me expound a little on what I said here.

Let us just say that I have opened a bible more than once. And as a hard Rock/heavy metal musician who just happened to be a Christian in the early 80’s I have, shall we say, discussed this topic more than once.

doriangrey on October 14, 2007 at 11:58 AM

The 80’s were a tough and troubling time for me. I attended Calvery Chapel in San Diego California, the Pastor was Mike Macintosh, he was the director of Maranatha Music in the 70’s before starting Calvery chapel San Diego in 1975. As you probably know Maranatha Music pretty much started the genera of Christian Rock music.

In those early days there was a great deal of hostility towards Christians who played rock and roll from the more moderate mainstream churches. We were considered by many to be pawns of the devil who came into their churches to drag their children off to hell with us. Rock and roll was after all the “Tool of the Devil”.

Many today see Rap through the same intolerant eyes, and they believe that no good can possible come of it. While personally I have no use for Rap I do not subscribe to that philosophy. The Apostle Paul said “I have become all things to all people, so that I might by any means save some”

I believe this applies to Rap just as I know it applied to rock and roll. I have witnessed and known many people who received the gospel because of Maranatha Music’s use of rock and roll as a way to reach people that would otherwise never have stepped inside a church.

Pax Vobiscum ya’ll

the violence and misogyny of rap is a major evil in our society,

There is nothing inherently evil about rap. Rap is simply stated “spoken word performance art set to Iambic Pentameter with a rhythmic background”. Nothing more and nothing less. As with any art form the intentions of the artist do not determine the nature of the art form itself.

And the major point of this video was to parody the violence and misogny of much rap by showing what is REALLY important about good woman–that she is a Godly woman who is more intimate with her Bible than she is with assorted men. The message is very clearly to NOT be drawn into seeing women the way rap music tends to do, as objects to be desired because they have big…whatever anatomical parts you like. The type of woman a Christian man should desire is one who has a big heart for the Lord. That will come ’round to bless him in the long run much better than one whose big claim to fame is that she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

It’s using the medium (that sort of music) to contradict its usual message, and a kid will recognize that when s/he sees it.