Belated audio: Atheist radio!
posted at 2:25 pm on October 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I opened a thread for its debut last week when it was supposed to, but didn’t, air. No matter: the mp3 is now available at Air America in case you’re curious. Hitchens turns up at the halfway point for an interview, the highlight of which is his theory of churchgoing and the lowlight his repulsive comparison of Israel to Pakistan as quasi-fundamentalist regimes with nuclear weapons. If you’re not in the mood, listen at least to the first few minutes at the beginning to see the depths of self-parody to which the program inadvertently sinks. From the choice of music to the self-congratulatory “freethinker” label to the promise of Theocracy Alerts on future shows to the sucking vacuum of charisma between the two hosts, it’s microcosmic confirmation of my favorite liberal’s diagnosis. Click and enjoy.
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Wow,
I just started listening a few minutes ago and already want to turn it off.
terryannonline on October 13, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Atheists will be perfected when they become Christians.
Wade on October 13, 2007 at 2:35 PM
How dare you be so bigoted!
Apologize right now!
terryannonline on October 13, 2007 at 2:37 PM
Red Meat, indeed.
Are you just a glutton for punishment, AP? Ugh…I just can’t bring myself to listen to anything from Air Amerika
JetBoy on October 13, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Merging JetBoy’s [October 13, 2007 at 2:41 PM] and terryannonline’s comment [October 13, 2007 at 2:34 PM], explains the only saving grace I see in Air America Radio — it’s the only program I can set the alarm clock to that actually gets me out of bed in the morning to turn off the alarm.
Dusty on October 13, 2007 at 2:53 PM
The term “Freethinker” has been around for a few hundred years as a term synonymous with is Atheism.
Maxx on October 13, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Why do some Atheists fear what they do not believe in?
Gatordoug on October 13, 2007 at 2:56 PM
I would be more interested in listening if the radio program actually contained some good discussions in philosophy, epistemology, and metaphysics instead of the usual sort of thing that goes on…
ColtsFan on October 13, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Explain please.
terryannonline on October 13, 2007 at 3:21 PM
It seems they are putting their “faith” in John Lennon.
Only listened to about the first 25%, very sad and very dangerous is this turn toward atheism. The world knows of atheist countries and there policies toward personal freedom, property rights, and basic human rights and it’s always the same story. Wherever the Christian church is not welcome you will find harsh brutal oppression. It’s also common that people try to escape those countries.
Maxx on October 13, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Those freaks give the thinking man a bad name. I wish the left did not try to own secularism. There are many conservatives that don’t believe in ghosts, fairies and gods. I bet there are more than you could imagine.
The sooner we get all religions out of politics the better that includes atheism.
The only “isms” I want to hear about are Capitalism, Individualism, and Federalism.
And maybe “gun rights-ism” and “border enforcement-ism”
TheSitRep on October 13, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Why should people eliminate what they think is right from their politics ? What do you suppose people should base their politics on…. the configuration of the stars…. or maybe Hollywood stars ?
Maxx on October 13, 2007 at 3:50 PM
As one who is probably pretty much practicing the Faith of Having None (also known as Atheism), I would guess (although I don’t talk to others) that maybe it’s not so much the deity they fear, but the people whom believe in said deity, but not so much Christianity. Sure, many pounce on it but I don’t because I let people believe what they believe and just don’t spout out what I believe.
I don’t have a fear of Christianity and its God because I don’t see millions taking up a sword and shield in the name of Jesus Christ. The religion and God being used as an excuse to kill innocent people (and enforce their way of life upon the world) is Islam. While it isn’t every single Muslim doing that, there’s still too many just killing their own along with us infidels because we don’t believe in their God.
Even though I wonder if I am, as someone who believes himself to be Left-of-Center I just have to question the sanity of most Liberals/Democrats who just don’t get certain issues right, especially the big one on my list (The War on Islamic Terrorism), or even domestic problems (1st and 2nd Amendments, Abortion, economy to a big degree, etc.).
And that’s what this show (likely) and others left-of-me would confirm to me; that they just don’t get it. I don’t find religion (and Christianity especially) in general to be dangerous, just the one that gives nutcases an excuse to use an AK-47 amongst others in a very bigoted passion while screaming, “Allah acksomething!” Good lord.
If I care to listen to talk radio I’m going to stray away from Air America.
Cutty S. on October 13, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Say that after the Muslims take over.
TheSitRep on October 13, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Hitchens must have been frightened by the statue of Saint Christopher on his father’s dashboard as a child, and has since developed a great vehemence against religion which, as we see in his writings, has no bounds.
What makes him tick is his so-called intellect which he flaunts throughout his writings. After all, intellectualism and religion are the exact opposites in that intellectualism requires being faithful only to ones self, whereas religion requires being faithful to a supreme being, which people like Hitchens find abhorrent.
pocomoco on October 13, 2007 at 4:10 PM
Your idea of religious Americans not getting involved in politics is the gateway for Muslims taking over.
Maxx on October 13, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Why do some Atheists go off threir rocker when they see or hear ANY mention of God? After all they do not BELIEVE in God so really why do they start going on about seperation of church and state? I wonder why they are so offended?
Further why do some Atheists look down of believers? I thought they were FREEthinkers?
Gatordoug on October 13, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Why do some Atheists go off threir rocker when they see or hear ANY mention of God? After all they do not BELIEVE in God so really why do they start going on about seperation of church and state? I wonder why they are so offended?
Further why do some Atheists look down of believers? I thought they were FREEthinkers?
Gatordoug on October 13, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Like you say in your posts “some” atheists. Not all atheists are militant and I think Allahpundit would be a good example of that.
terryannonline on October 13, 2007 at 4:32 PM
Agreed, which is why I said some are very intolerant
Gatordoug on October 13, 2007 at 4:41 PM
Or as I would put it, intellectualism requires being faithful to the facts whereas religion requires being faithful to a dogma.
It’s nice to see someone flaunt their intellect as opposed to flaunting their willful ignorance.
abrown28 on October 13, 2007 at 4:45 PM
I think you need a balance of belief and reason. If all you go on is belief and no intellect, you look foolish. However, you can reason yourself blind.
terryannonline on October 13, 2007 at 4:58 PM
One of the many intellectual deficiences of the Left is the (real or feigned) inability to distinguish between a Theocracy on the one hand and a Democracy where religious people are allowed to participate.
Lancer on October 13, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Every comprehensive worldview has some sort or degree of “faith,” in the sense that there are unprovable presuppositions which the philosophical system itself depends on or rests on. Every philosophical worldview (even scientism) rests on “first principles,” or key assumptions that are not provable.
But atheism has a far more serious problem.
The issue is not that atheists themselves are dumb or stupid or militant. Indeed, many atheists have made huge contributions to philosophy.
The problem is that atheism cannot account for rationality and thus cannot justify their very usage of the laws of logic. Atheists themselves may be logical or not, but the system of atheism itself is anti-logical.
Thus, as a Christian theist, by the grace of God alone, I believe that atheism does not even have “reason” on its side. This is because atheism has “no philosophical room” at all in its worldview for the immaterial laws of logic.
ColtsFan on October 13, 2007 at 5:13 PM
I was unable to download it, did HA crash the site??? I noticed only 6 members were there.
allrsn on October 13, 2007 at 5:14 PM
no hell below us… listening only makes you feel like your in hell.
the … way … they … speak … is … putting … me … in … a … trance.
i had to stop. its mind numbing. but you know what it reminds me of?
snl’s schweatty balls skit with alec baldwin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D49ybF8rlFA
is that what they were going for?
lorien1973 on October 13, 2007 at 5:32 PM
Undomesticated equines could not drag me to anything on Air America.
I’ll have the experience of having my mind filled with swill vicariously, through the commenters on this thread.
PS: Atheist programming on Air America, what a surprise! NOT!
least1 on October 13, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Why listen?
They actively believe in nothing.
Give me agnostics radio anyday.
Where they play both sides.
Like a good disc jockey should.
Sometimes the B-Sides are the best.
(”Darkness, Darknness“, by the Youngbloods, f’rinstance, flipside of the sappy “Get Together”.)
profitsbeard on October 13, 2007 at 6:17 PM
I have to give Hitch credit for some things though… The man is eloquent, mannerly and I thought it was big of him to admit that he’s being rude by assaulting the heartfelt beliefs of others and has no right to complain about being received poorly by his ideological rivals. It’s a shame such a great man has been wasted on such an uninspired life. That’s my opinion and I’m stickin’ to it.
Rugged Individual on October 13, 2007 at 6:43 PM
I was going to ask AP, how is Atheist Radio new when George Soros has been propping up Air anti-America for a while now? Aren’t those useless, boring, useless tools with nonviable programming off the air yet?
As to Hitchens? Big Surprise. No offense AP or other atheist posters, but I do believe Christopher Hitchens is an amalgam of every possible negative quality an atheist can possess. Smug, self-righteous, arrogant, and exceedingly amazed by his own faux brilliance, as if the nonbelief in God is a novel, enlightened one.
BKennedy on October 13, 2007 at 6:59 PM
I don’t believe there’s any such thing as true atheism. Everybody believes in and/or worships something, be it money, their career, or themselves. Believing in something beyond and bigger than themselves, that’s a whole ‘nother can o’ worms :)
Sir Loin on October 13, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Agreed. “La Raza del Sol” was on the B-side of Journey’s “Stone in Love” 45 (I think) and it was great back in 1981 :D
Sir Loin on October 13, 2007 at 7:21 PM
Yes, I agree that I too am very surprised when atheists proclaim that the death of God is a “novel, enlightened one,” as if to suggest that atheism started with the Enlightenment project of modernity.
Or maybe they are suggesting that atheism is just the next step in a “truly enlightened culture” that is losing its past heritage of the Dark Ages.
This is simply not historically true. As my professor of ancient philosophy will say, “atheism has been around since Plato and Aristotle.”
Atheism is not at all a genuine development or novel creation of the 18-19th century Enlightenment.
Atheism, just like theism, and a lot of other “ISM”s were historically around a lot longer than that.
ColtsFan on October 13, 2007 at 7:37 PM
I wonder what Tiny Tim’s last line would be on the Air Satan Station:
Original: “God bless us, everyone.”
Revised: “Wonderful times to us, everyone.”
Then again, they might consider Charles Dickens hate writing since he mentions only one diety, not many.
madmonkphotog on October 13, 2007 at 7:41 PM
And Mr. Hitchens would be the first to support that.
Entelechy on October 13, 2007 at 8:25 PM
ColtsFan-
The first anti-theist, in its popular sense, was probably the Greek pre-Socratic Xenophanes, notorious for saying that:
“The Ethiopians say their gods are snub-nosed and black, the Thracians that theirs have light blue eyes and red hair… But, if cattle and horses or lions had hands and were able to draw, cattle would draw cattle-gods, horses, horse-gods, and lions, gods that were like lions.”
Once you start seeing through the human elements, many of the lordly concepts start to crumble.
We hope that the heart of the Mystery is Love.
But “did He who made the Lamb make thee?” is still a Tyger in mix.
profitsbeard on October 13, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Good point.
My interest was only to point out that discussions in philosophy of religion have been going on for a very long time.
I am not entirely clear on the above, concerning “lordly concepts.”
ColtsFan on October 13, 2007 at 8:54 PM
I just knew liberals had a godless streak in them.
Ryan Gandy on October 13, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Sir Loin on October 13, 2007 at 7:17 PM,—
“I don’t believe there’s any such thing as true atheism. Everybody believes in and/or worships something, be it money, their career, or themselves. Believing in something beyond and bigger than themselves, that’s a whole ‘nother can o’ worms :)”
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The concept “atheist” denotes an aspect of an individual which is that, for whatever reason, he or she does not accept the belief in a supernatural authority governing the Universe, mankind, or both. The concept says something about what the individual does ~not~ worship, not what he does worship. So even if atheists worship other things, they are still true atheists.
Also, non-belief in a cosmic sized spook that watches everything people do, from slapping the bow-stick to watching Muslims fly planes into large buildings with “true” Christians in them, defines a single aspect of what makes up the whole individual. A person’s profile is not defined by by a single non belief but by the gamut of ideas he does accept which varies amongst atheists to an enormous extent.
FierceGuppy on October 13, 2007 at 9:45 PM
After listening to this for a few minutes I suddenly realized that these people are NOT atheists per say. These people believe in god, they just hate HIM. I would think that an atheist looks at God in the same way as he might view the Easter bunny or Santa Claus. NOBODY goes on and on about how much they disbelieve in Santa. How long can someone speak about not believing in something? No no. This is different. These people hate god. You can talk a long time about hating someone hence the whole principle of Air America.
Guardian on October 13, 2007 at 10:06 PM
“NOBODY goes on and on about how much they disbelieve in Santa.”
No grown-up goes on and on about how much they believe in Santa. It’s a non issue.
FierceGuppy on October 13, 2007 at 10:48 PM
LOL wow, such angst. You forgot about the part where God created humans with free will. If He were to control us directly, you’d complain about being a puppet. You have to choose.
Face it, our capacity to understand everything in the universe is extremely limited, no matter what Hitchens tells you. God bless and good night!
Sir Loin on October 14, 2007 at 1:16 AM
I’m not. No traffic for Godless Air America.
Children away from parents. God away from families. Why this country is going to Hell in a handbasket.
Connie on October 14, 2007 at 1:18 AM
Sir Loin on October 14, 2007 at 1:16 AM,
“LOL wow, such angst. You forgot about the part where God created humans with free will. If He were to control us directly, you’d complain about being a puppet.”
Let us indulge in this fantasy for the sake of argument. If your god were to control us directly then surely it would be God complaining about himself?
FierceGuppy on October 14, 2007 at 3:01 AM
Atheistic attitudes are brought about, I beieve, by the fact that it’s the only way some people can justify their life style.
leanright on October 14, 2007 at 9:30 AM
As informative as I find this site with regard to all things politics, I find the constant barrage of “Atheist” related topics leaving a foul taste in my mouth every time I visit. It will matter little to anyone here but I’m not coming back anymore. Time to find my conservative news elsewhere.
Vaporman87 on October 15, 2007 at 10:27 AM
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