When genocides collide

posted at 1:30 pm on October 12, 2007 by Bryan

Who is Harrison Salisbury? You’ve probably never heard of him unless you’re a leftwing activist who has bought into his reporting or bought his books over the years. He was long feted by the left, was a friend of the Kennedys, and was against the Vietnam war long before that became a more mainstream position. As such, he was a poor choice to be a foreign correspondent (he had already taken a side in an ongoing war) but he became a foreign correspondent anyway. He played a little noted role in a genocide that the Democrats have never called a genocide, probably because they’re largely responsible for it. And, because it’s not far enough back in time for them to actually see it for what it was. They seem to need 8 or 9 decades before they can properly process moving history. The rest of us don’t have the luxury of waiting that long.

Let’s look back at the 1960s. Harrison Salisbury was the New York Times’ man in Vietnam. As I wrote about him on my old blog a few years ago:

During the spring of 1965 the United States was trying to find a way to end the escalating war that had by that time already been underway for several bloody years. So on March 5 President Johnson authorized the Air Force and Navy to cripple the North Vietnamese economy and war machine through a massive bombing campaign cheerily dubbed Operation Rolling Thunder. A couple of related campaigns were aimed at cutting off the Ho Chi Minh Trail, North Vietnam’s main supply route to its allies in the South via Laos. So Rolling Thunder rolled into action, systematically striking at military and industrial targets concentrated around Hanoi and elsewhere in the North. Rolling Thunder�s targets were military and industrial, but mostly military, in nature.

Civilians always die in war. Rolling Thunder took place in the days before smart weapons and Special Forces painting targets with lasers. Bombs back then were very, very dumb, but Rolling Thunder wasn�t. And it was working; the British charge d’affairs in Hanoi at the time later reported that the campaign halted just as North Vietnam’s economy was on the verge of total collapse by 1967, the same year the Johnson administration halted it. Had Rolling Thunder continued much longer, the United States probably would have won the war.

So why did LBJ pull his best punch just when it was about to bring victory? Because in the summer of 1966 Salisbury had written dispatches accusing the US of targeting and killing civilians intentionally. Mr. Salisbury, also a decorated veteran journalist like Duranty, reported from Hanoi scenes of nearly unspeakable devastation. He described the bodies of children killed by American bombs. He described buses obliterated by American aircraft. He described an American war against civilians, killing civilians intentionally. LBJ had not sent in the Air Force to kill Vietnamese children, but Salisbury reported that to be the case. The adverse publicity made Johnson gun shy, and he began orchestrating missions in ways not to win the war but to avoid Salisbury’s poison pen. Result: Johnson pulled back on Rolling Thunder, the war dragged on, and thousands more Americans died in what turned out to be a losing effort. After the fall of Saigon eight years later, a million South Vietnamese either died, were imprisoned by the Communists who took over, or tried to escape to the United States on whatever rickety craft they could find. Many of those “boat people” never made it across the Pacific.

The Duranty referenced above was Walter Duranty, the New York Times man in the USSR who glossed over the Stalinist genocide there. See any patterns developing? Commie genocides consistently get kid glove treatment by the NYT, for starters.

The aftermath of our exit from Vietnam might or might not properly be called a genocide, but only because the bloodbath wasn’t primarily ethnic in nature. It was primarily political. Nevertheless, about 1 million died and the Communist North took control. The killing fields in Laos and Cambodia sprang up from the chaos. The US Congress has never condemned the violence that followed its own actions in Vietnam: The South collapsed after Congressional Democrats cut their funding.

Bad journalism can get people killed, and Harrison Salisbury and Walter Duranty are prime examples of how that can happen. Newsweek is as well, for its made-up flushed Koran story. We’ve seen some awful reporting coming out of Iraq, too, where a premature exit on our part could lead to genocide there.

Bad politics can get people killed, too. Many of the Democrats who cut off South Vietnam’s funds are still in power (Rep. David Obey, for instance), and they’re intent on repeating the same actions in Iraq that led to the massive bloodshed in southeast Asia. Hypocritically, they’re also the ones voting to condemn the Ottoman genocide against the Armenians 90 years ago.

How about recognizing and condemning a genocide that you actually had a hand in causing, Democrats? And how about learning from that, so that you don’t end up contributing to another one?

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So this Mr. Salisbury is actually the nexus from which the Anti-War movement truly began

Astonishing

Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 1:41 PM

Very well said.

Please forward this to every Republican candidate (even Ron Paul, so he knows the price of his brand of stupid pacifism).

If they don’t bring up things like this during the campaign, we deserve to lose.

Hawkins1701 on October 12, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Learn something from their mistakes? The dems? Are you drinking this early in the morning or what? :)

Very nice Bryan. Well done. Tell Malkin to push this type of story into Bill O’s inbox. If he pushed this kind of thing for 6 months or so I bet we’d all be surprised how that might turn out.

Griz on October 12, 2007 at 1:50 PM

I will give credit where credit is due

Bush > Johnson.

While Bush has backed down on too many things he hasnt gotten to the point where he has ordered the military to stop using bombs (though was debate to go to smaller bombs)

We really need a president who isnt pushed by the media into doing what the media wants

William Amos on October 12, 2007 at 1:53 PM

BTW just imagine if we had the blogshpere in the 1960s. The news media got to be arrogant because they were the only sources of info to the american people. 60′s Media created Dan Rather

William Amos on October 12, 2007 at 1:55 PM

Bad journalism can get people killed

There’s a catch phrase worth repeating.

How do we go about spamming the entire Columbia Journalism School alumni network with this essay?

see-dubya on October 12, 2007 at 2:01 PM

Not to nitpick, but genocides aren’t a matter of numbers killed, but why they were killed. Killing intellectuals, opposition members, and random civilians? Not genocide. Killing Jews, Armenians, non-Arab Sudanese? Genocide. To be accurate, you might just want to say “mass slaughter.” Add “of innocents” if you like.

As for the resolution, while I’m not opposed to an Armenian Genocide resolution, this isn’t the right one. It basically says how nice it would be if all government officials learned about the genocide. It doesn’t criticize Turkish denial of the genocide, so it’s rather toothless and pointless as is. If we’re going to piss off an ally, we might as well criticize it for, you know, something it did in its 88 years of existence.

calbear on October 12, 2007 at 2:08 PM

Griz on October 12, 2007 at 1:50 PM

Sorry, its not sensational enough, not about a Pop tart.. its hard news and history…

Fox no longer does hard reporting on important issues… its too busy trying to get big names into its studios.

Shep Smith? Has put forth the position that Global warming is a fact, and does not have dissenting opinions on his show, even though many of the Pro Warming scientists of the past are now saying the science is not there…

O’Reiley’s show has become more about O’Reiley, than about hard reporting. He interviewed Jesse Jackson about Jena, and didn’t even research the case first. Sad. Let Jackson get away with all kinds of spin…

Don’t expect Fox to do anything of real substance…

Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 2:09 PM

Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.

a bit of a wide definition, but that would likely cover both south vietname and the killing fields of cambodia, would it not?

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on October 12, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Seeing as they are so consistnent in these maneuvers and avoidances, one might conclude that they are jealous, but having any sort of hand in the resultant death toll soothes their black lefty hearts.The Turkey move looks on the face a bit like a positive thing, but even it is a move to cripple us.

bbz123 on October 12, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Genocide:

32.5 million abortions in the twenty one years since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized unrestricted abortion on January 22, 1973.

And the winner is …… Us

Sponsored by ……. Democrats, not Armenians

fogw on October 12, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 2:09 PM

Sad, but I know you’re right. We’re in the land of no consequence. People will have to die before that changes.

Griz on October 12, 2007 at 2:39 PM

Excellent narrative.

Now, let’s beat Hillary over the head with it for leading a very dangerous party.

T J Green on October 12, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Ahem. Just for the record, some of us here at HA are old enough to actually remember Mr. Salisbury. But it was encouraging to see that someone as vile as he has already been largely forgotten by the next generation. Your kids (or grandkids) will have to look up most of the people you despise today, as they’ll be forgotten as well. Gore who?

JiangxiDad on October 12, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Genocide is by definition an attempt to kill all the members of ONE particular group of people usually a religion, ethnicity or the like. I don’t think Genocide has ever been tied to killing of, say, Intellectuals and people who oppose the regime. Not to say those aren’t horrible, its just not the right use of the word.

Armenian and Jewish holocausts were because they were going after ONE specific group to eliminate that group entirely. What happened in Cambodia and Vietnam is more like wholesale slaughter and massacres then ‘genocide’.

Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM

The Hmong and Montegard peoples of Vietnam are specifically targeted even today in a real honest to goodness genocide. The news media has been ignoring it for years (decades)

Only Soldier of Fortune magizine covers the Communist governments persecution of these ethnic minorities on a regular basis, hows that for an indictment of today’s journalism

Rob Taylor on October 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM

but only because the bloodbath wasn’t primarily ethnic in nature. It was primarily political.

There you have it. Leftists don’t really care about objective criteria such as body counts. It’s all subjective — motivation and politics.

Nosferightu on October 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM

The Treason Times and liberals in general have a long and comfortable relationship with the perpetrators of mass slaughter (and I’m not just referring to Planned Parenthood), as long as they spout the approved Leftist dogma. I have yet to hear any of them admit that the bloodbath in South Vietnam even happened, let alone their complicity in it. That’s one of the many inconvenient truths that they’re scared to death of.

ReubenJCogburn on October 12, 2007 at 4:37 PM

How about recognizing and condemning a genocide that you actually had a hand in causing, Democrats?

That will be my first question to Rep. Jason Altmire (D PA) when he returns my phone call.

Zorro on October 12, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Good post , Bryan.

jaime on October 12, 2007 at 6:44 PM

A couple dictionary sources say genocide can be applied to racial, cultural or political groups.

If you just listened to the narrative of the popular culture of the last 30 years, you would believe the U.S. invaded Vietnam, and this invasion failed. You mean there were a million people who wanted us there and were killed when we left? Oops Hollywood forgot to mention it.

Resolute on October 12, 2007 at 7:16 PM

Bryan, This is by far the best written, and most powerful factually devastating post I’ve seen you put up.

Well done.

One Angry Christian on October 12, 2007 at 10:30 PM