Video: Coulter vs. Deutsch; Update: Arab anti-discrimination committee accuses Coulter of anti-semitism
posted at 5:17 pm on October 12, 2007 by Allahpundit
We’re approaching 600 comments in the other Coulter thread so I figured you deserved to see the clip. It’s even clearer to me after watching, especially the tail end of it, that she didn’t mean anything untoward by what she said. She thinks Christians have been saved by Christ and Jews haven’t quite gotten there yet, but they will. For this there’s a bounty on her head?
Update: How very kind of the AADC suddenly to be so sensitive to anti-semitism.
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That, and breathing while conservative.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 5:21 PM
At least the defense isnt “It was a botched joke”
William Amos on October 12, 2007 at 5:23 PM
And being pretty hot to boot…
doriangrey on October 12, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Message to Donny — Get over yourself.
I really like his shows where he interviews guests who invented or started a business that made them millions. It’s interesting how when they did something simple, it just exploded, and the processes behind it.
Mazztek on October 12, 2007 at 5:31 PM
A reading of the gospel according to Ann Coulter.
Nice clip at the end. What was that?
Kini on October 12, 2007 at 5:32 PM
Hate to say it, but take the Multicultural nonoffensive everything is equal stuff out..
And she’s correct.
The term she used could have been a bit different, but the whole Christian thing started with Jews, who were then led to a “better” path through Christ.
Just as Islam believes in both the Old and New Testament, but Allah sent Mohamed down to “perfect” the Christians and Jews…
One religion, co-opting another, and supercedeing it…
One reason I’m a Theist… and don’t belong to any of those religions…
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 5:32 PM
This Deutsch looks like a Carl Levin want-to-b.
abinitioadinfinitum on October 12, 2007 at 5:34 PM
Exactly, and I thought your rationale in the first post was exactly spot on, AP. If what she said was anti-semitic, then the whole of Christianity is anti-semitic, which of course it is not. It’s a smear on Coulter, nothing more.
Schweggie on October 12, 2007 at 5:35 PM
Hebrews 7:18,19
18The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
moughon on October 12, 2007 at 5:35 PM
Ann is the best thinker on our side. The more she speaks the more she exposes the hypocrisy of her detracters.
Rode Werk on October 12, 2007 at 5:36 PM
Up is down. Red is Blue. Ann Coulter is an “anti-Semite” being condemned by the anti-Semitic American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. Maybe next the Nazis will condemn her. Or Bill Clinton will condemn “adulterers.”
Debbie Schlussel on October 12, 2007 at 5:37 PM
Perfected… by allowing laws to be ignored. Now I understand.
calbear on October 12, 2007 at 5:38 PM
Straw man.
“Oh, that’s so hateful.”
I bet that hypocritical bastard watches Mind of Mencia every week and laughs his a$$ off.
unamused on October 12, 2007 at 5:40 PM
I think Allah was already here, but I won’t quibble.
Interesting take. Christians will be “perfected” when they become Muslims. I wish this idiot Deutsch would have asked her that.
Sometimes I think of myself as a “gnostic”.
JiangxiDad on October 12, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Huh? Seriously?
Gregor on October 12, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Fundamentally, the Jews believe that G-d gave 10 basic laws, or commandments, that are to be strictly adhered to, because you should. That’s called free will.
The new testament changed the game and says you should follow the rules OR ELSE.
I don’t think G-d changes his “mind”, as he’s perfect. That’s why I think christianity is not just wrong, but blasphemous. But that’s me. I wasn’t insulted by what Ann believes, we’re all entitled to our beliefs.
It’s when your belief is that other theisms should be smitten or purged that I have a problem with them.
stonemeister on October 12, 2007 at 5:42 PM
Donny wants to be offended so he will be offended and no explanation will alleviate his offendedness.
Ann is a racist, bigot, anti-Semite for simply being a Republican and she gave Donny a perfect opportunity to be offended and justify his preconceived conclusions.
Hoodlumman on October 12, 2007 at 5:42 PM
Michael Savage went nuts on Ann Coulter last night. Proving once again, that if he were in charge in San Francisco, he’d be a fascist as their current leadership.
tizzidale on October 12, 2007 at 5:42 PM
Debbie,
I couldn’t agree with you more.
abinitioadinfinitum on October 12, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Valiant on October 12, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Not to quible… but I said Allah sent Mohamed… his prophet down… to teach the “children of the book” to submit (Islam) to Allah’s will…
Sorry, but Christians don’t HAVE to follow the laws… because once they ask for forgivness, since Jesus died for their sins to pay penance for all mankind… they get a pass… at least that how modern Christianity looks at it…
Simplistic, but thats what the new doctrine is… and I got so sick of hearing it I quit the church…
Crap, its one of the reasons for the degredation of modern America IMO, no more Religious Consequence for your actions here on earth… just ask forgivness and God lets ya in heaven anyway… no matter how much of a sh1t you were.
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Savage is an idiot that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Good grief, the man can’t make up his mind what he wants to talk about, his dog, something he ate, some book he wrote, whatever. I just tune him out.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 5:54 PM
Once again, we have someone confusing “forgiveness” with eliminating responsibility or consequences.
Simply because you’re forgiven for your sins (or crimes) … does not mean that you won’t suffer a penalty or punishment. Why is this so hard to grasp?
Gregor on October 12, 2007 at 5:56 PM
If only there were a Christian church that believed that BOTH grace and good works were required…
;-)
sweetlipsbutterhoney on October 12, 2007 at 5:57 PM
I agree, Romeo, but it’s really worse than that. Laws were created as a societal codification of the moral code under which the country was founded (Judeo-Christian philosophy). That moral code is the anchor, as laws can be changed through legislative process. Without the agreed-upon moral code, laws can be changed to anything, as there’s nothing achoring them.
This is the danger of moral equivalence or, worse yet, amoralism.
stonemeister on October 12, 2007 at 5:57 PM
I don’t know why anyone is talking about Ann here.
This should be about DONNY. What a complete jerk he was to her. Completely rude and what he wanted was her to say something that most people would Not understand in order to make himself comfortable in hating her.
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 5:59 PM
You should have found a Church to kick up a notch for you then. Hebrews 10, just a few verses after the perfected part says:
“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.”
stonemeister, what you said is certainly what Judiasm is like today, but was it that way in Jesus’s day?
pedestrian on October 12, 2007 at 5:59 PM
I’m not following what you mean. I didn’t know Mohammad was sent down, like Jesus. I thought he was already here and just a regular guy here on earth, until Allah decided to speak to him. Are you sure?
JiangxiDad on October 12, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Perfectly said, he was a complete and utter idiot, he knew what she was saying.
CrimsonFisted on October 12, 2007 at 6:03 PM
You know I was furious after reading the transcript, I talked about it with the guys on this and did cool off but wasn’t all that unhappy. Actually hearing it I think I get more of what her message was and frankly I’m not offended by what she said. It isn’t nearly as bad ironically enough as that transcript makes it out to be. And frankly Deutsch really drags the Judaism part out – I’ve gone to at least a dozen local GOP meetings and events, I’ve never been singled out or made to feel uncomfortable because I’m jewish and I’m part of a fairly high profile jewish family in my city. This was really blown so far out of control its insane.
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:04 PM
Surely you just. Ann hot? She’s alright, but hot? Hardly.
lorien1973 on October 12, 2007 at 6:06 PM
Mohammad was a man, he heard the voice of Allah and became a prophet – think Moses without a burning bush. He was sent to bring the message of Allah to the tribes of Arabia and initially he thought very highly of Christians and Jews. Islam was, according to him and Allah, the final prophecy that built upon the teachings of Judaism and Christianity. Despite the hurrangs of their current insane mullahs, Islam has numerous christians and jewish prophets as Islamic prophets and takes numerous practices from Judaism (facing Mecca whereas we face Jerusalem during prayers, Yom Kippur is one day of fasting, Ramadan is thirty). But once the Jews of the Arabian peninsula did not take Allah and Mohammad to be a prophet, Mohammed goes absolutely berserk on the Jews and this is where you find so many of those lovely little verses on Jews being apes and pigs and the rock crying out “there’s a jew behind me, come quick and kill it”
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:07 PM
Having an intelligent conversation with a liberal is like discussing the National League playoffs with someone from Siberia who doesn’t speak english.
peacenprosperity on October 12, 2007 at 6:08 PM
Deutsch was trying to put words in her mouth, but he did not manage to do it. Deutsch can feign outrage all he wants but Ann said nothing offensive.
Not that there is anything wrong with saying something offensive… it’s a free country…. Hillary isn’t President yet.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:10 PM
There are three kinds of people in the world;
1)Those who are intelligent enough to understand Ann’s points.
2)Those who understand but hate conservatives so much they twist everything she says and
3) Those too stupid to understand her.
peacenprosperity on October 12, 2007 at 6:11 PM
It is difficult for intelligent women, sometimes, to explain things to not-so-intelligent men.
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 6:12 PM
She never said that. That’s a bald-faced lie, and you know it.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:12 PM
Ann is not an anti-semite. Nor did she say anything anti-semitic. First of all, to label her such diminishes the meaning of the word anti-semite.
Secondly, and most importantly, people are NOT quoting this excerpt from the interview with Donny Douchebag:
Now, if Ann were an anti-semite, why wold she suggest the Democratic party should look like Joe Lieberman, who by the way, IS A JEW.
The people over at Media Matter are total fvckin’ retards.
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 12, 2007 at 6:13 PM
That is not what she said.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
You’re liberal dream vision won’t come to fruition anytime soon there chief. Say hi to Achmadenijad for me from a Jew
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
OK, I’ll bite. I hope Dem party conventions aren’t sponsored by Miller Beer in the future…
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
for·give (fr-gv, fôr-)
v. for·gave (-gv), for·giv·en (-gvn), for·giv·ing, for·gives
v.tr.
1. To excuse for a fault or an offense; pardon.
2. To renounce anger or resentment against.
3. To absolve from payment of (a debt, for example).
To absolve from payment. To excuse or pardon for an offense…
Either one of those denotes no punishment.
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
Because LGF is an echo chamber. Charles doesn’t allow dissent.
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
Judaism was never about being ordered to believe a certain way. Discussion and rabbinnical opinions are at least as important in Judaism as the Torah.
Back in the [supposed] days of Jesus, there were a few sects branching from Judaism with strange interpretations, and more than a few “new” religions.
By the way, I say “supposed” days of Jesus, as there are not extra-biblical historical records of Jesus or any of the events of that era. Those were not pre-historical times. There are plenty of other contemporary historical records, though. You’d think something that important would have been written down.
Don’t get too defensive, I respect Christians. I just don’t believe in it and the above part of why, not out of ignorance.
stonemeister on October 12, 2007 at 6:15 PM
That’s because we are smarter than the people over at LGF. Do you find that offensive ?
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Yes. Would have thought that Mohammad as God as Man would be antithetical to the Muslims. I was wondering if originally Romeo13 was combining elements of the Jesus story with Mohammad. As you say, he is more like Moses or Abraham or other prophets, but unlike Jesus.
JiangxiDad on October 12, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Killgore Trout on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
Watch it again. SHe was half joking. That’s a very deep question to answer in mere moments on national television. You should probably lighten up. Or do you have something against happy christians?
see how that works?
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Killgore Trout on October 12, 2007 at 6:14 PM
She NEVER, EVER said she wanted a “jew-free” America, but you claim she did. That is a LIE and you know it. Saying so makes you a LIAR!!!
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
So? What’s offensive about that? I want all Americans to be conservative. Is that offensive to liberals??? Liberals want everyone to think like them too. Is that offensive???
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Update comment: Heads will Roll
Kini on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Don’t make yourself dizzy with all that spin!
Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Probably, no big deal on that one.
Here’s your irony for the day – I went to a Jewish private school for a good chunk of my younger years, what did we get in 7th grade world history? An overview of the other religions which did include a history and understanding of the teachings of both Christianity and Islam. Yes a Jewish child was taught about both religions and not ‘indoctrinated’. You guys should go ask them how they did it.
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:17 PM
I was at that convention, I wasn’t christian.
And the INITIAL comment of hers didn’t include the Christian comment, she added that later.
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:18 PM
The people over at Media Matters are paid leftist propagandist.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Shorter translation: LIARS!!
Not so short: D@mn LIARS!!!
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:19 PM
Folks, it’s time to start hammering back at these liberal liars, and call them out when they lie! I’ve personally had all of thier garbage I’m going to take. When I hear/read/see them lie, I’m going to let them know.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:21 PM
Oooppsss yer right… Mohamed was in his 40s when he became a Prophet… and touched by Allah to become an Imam (perfect example).
But then again, except for the whole silly three Kings Manger thing… with angels… we really don’t hear a lot about Jesus as a child or young man… story kind of lapses there for quite a few years…
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 6:23 PM
Yeah… so what ? Were is the insult in that ? Do you think it is not possible to be Jewish and Christian at the same time ? You need to read St. Paul, that’s right the Apostle Paul who boasted that if there was ever a Jew… he was a Jew, from the tribe of Benjamin.
You choose to be offended, while nothing offensive was said, nobody can help you. Grow up.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:25 PM
Coulter has become like a mean drunk… not knowing when to quit.
madmonkphotog on October 12, 2007 at 6:25 PM
Too bad those dipsticks are already bought-and-paid-for.
BKennedy on October 12, 2007 at 6:25 PM
BKennedy on October 12, 2007 at 6:25 PM
Is Kos into leather?
;-}
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Donny looks like Ryan O’Neal to me.
And this guy was so rude, kept talking over her.
CrimsonFisted on October 12, 2007 at 6:28 PM
This is not only an attack on Coulter but another liberal attack on Christianity!!! I mean…what the hell are libs thinking? Have they actually EVER opened the Greek Bible??
Ann is only quoting St. Paul here…much ado about nothing save for multiculti facists!!
Albertanator on October 12, 2007 at 6:28 PM
OF COURSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH AT THE SAME TIME!!!! Our faiths are incompatible – doesn’t mean we can’t get along but it DOES mean you can’t be both at the same time.
In case you missed it
Christians: Messiah came in Jesus, he died, he’ll be back
Jewish: Messiah has not come, he will be pure human from the line of King David and will usher in a millenia of closeness to God and peace
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Hmmm…
thinkin on it a bit…
Isn’t this really one of the problems we have in the Western world today?
We believe in a philosophy or religion… think about it… debate it… and yet won’t defend it? We think all those other philosophys/ religions which we have access to, and yet reject, are somehow equal to what we have chosen???
If so, why the heck did we choose them?
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Ahh, the usual hit and run tactic from a liberal. Make an absurd accusation and provide NOTHING…. ZIP…. ZERO…. NADA to back it up.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:31 PM
The only group that forces conversion is Islam. If you choose to be a Christian, that is YOUR choice – no one makes it for you or forces you into it. Get over yourself and stop lying.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:33 PM
Christian superiority??? If you honestly believe that tripe than you know nothing about Christianity and really shouldn’t be pontificating on a subject you know nothing about.
doriangrey on October 12, 2007 at 6:33 PM
So now your going to act like you didn’t hear the question she was ask. She was ask if she thought everyone should be Christian and she gave her answer. I don’t recall the part where she said Christians are superior, or her stating anything about forced conversions.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:35 PM
The AADC claims Anti-Semitism
Thank you from an organization that helps cause and cover up Anti-Semitism, but from most Jews to you, “SHOVE IT!
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Earth to posters. Alert: There is a difference between talking about theology and talking abhout values. People of different faiths can obviously share values and that’s what Ann was talking about. Donny Douchebag got mixed up because his mind is slow. But I’ll say it one more time for the retarded: Coulter is stating that part of being a Christian is believing that Christianity is true, which has the fortunate side effect of also implying that Jews are saved for believing that Judaism is true. What a bigot!
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 12, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Wasn’t Deutsch the same liberal doofus that harangued Bernie Goldberg over Bias or some other book without having read it?
kevcad on October 12, 2007 at 6:39 PM
On a lighter note Jews are all powerful and control the world. Here’s the proof from Vanity Fair….
Andy in Agoura Hills on October 12, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 5:32 PM
While at one time, knowing less about the history of Islam, I too accepted on the word of others, that Islam was a co-equal, Abrahamic branch under the same god, just as the islamists and their multi-cultural apologists would have us believe, but post-9/11, upon further scrutiny, the feel good-notions about islam just don’t hold up for me.
Christianity is a break-away, sect of Judaism. Christians and Jews, and for that matter, Buddists, do not attain heaven or enlightenment, in order to join in sex-orgies but rather the opposite, to leave behind, the burden of earthly desire.
Islam on the other hand, is a totalitarian ideology, the cult-creation of one man, Mohamet far removed by time, culture and geography and who from envy appropriated elements from Christianity and Judaism and then subordinated them to suit his own bloody, militaristic ends.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on October 12, 2007 at 6:43 PM
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:43 PM
From Hebrews 11:25-27, Paul speaking:
Ann got it almost right. I blieve all of Israel will be saved in the end, because they will accept Jesus as their Savior. That is happening now in great numbers! Ann coulda been more clear and more careful perhaps, but the indignation against Ann is mainly because she is a conservative who makes slam dunk points against the left.
Ordinary1 on October 12, 2007 at 6:47 PM
……………oy
Defector01 on October 12, 2007 at 6:48 PM
My personal opinion is that Anne got the attention she intended with this remark, like many of her past utterances. She is promoting a book and welcomes the attention.
The remark itself shouldn’t be that big of a deal but it is who said it. She is an extremely intelligent woman who knows how to market her ideas well.
The hysteria from the left about it is expected and so is the overly defensive posture from some on the right. Both are disproportionate.
Bradky on October 12, 2007 at 6:50 PM
“Arab anti-discrimination committee accuses Coulter of anti-semitism”
Hahahaha … I love it everytime Coulter speaks her mind. No one yet has managed to disprove what she says … they just get their little silk panties in a wad and whine about her being a meanie.
darwin on October 12, 2007 at 6:51 PM
At least we won’t lie to you or lie about you. I guess telling the truth and not smearing people is too “extreme” for you libs, though.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 6:52 PM
/Looks at the bookshelf to his right… King James Bible… Living Bible… Koran…
My point was not that any is superior to the other, but that THEY think so… that they think they are the evolution of religion.
After all… relgion is ALL about what you believe… and what rules you think the Creator wants you to follow…
Personaly I hope to die with a sword in my hand… and will be looking for Valkyries to take me to Valhala to train up for Ragnorak… much more my idea of a good time than hearts and halos… or 72 Virgins even (Virgins are usualy pretty lousy at sex ya know…)..
Romeo13 on October 12, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Sorry you feel that way. I scrolled the LGF thread until I found your position:
RushBaby on October 12, 2007 at 6:53 PM
Should she be like the citizens of the old Soviet Union and be careful what she says?
Being offended by Ann Coulter has nothing to do with what comes out of her mouth and everything to do with what rattles around in your dysfunctional, postmodern, moral relativist, politically correct melon.
peacenprosperity on October 12, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Don’t misunderstand me Defector01. Jewish is both a race and a religion. You can be Jewish and Christian. I would reference the New Testament for you, but I know that’s not your book. And that’s fine, I’m not the one to tell you otherwise. That’s also why I will not address the second part of your post. Because be believe differently and I have no desire to butt heads with one my Jewish friends.
Coulter believes that at some point in the future the Jews will come to the knowledge that Jesus was who he said he was. I believe that too because that is basic Christian doctrine in accordance with the New Testament. It is no slight against the Jewish people.
I fully understand that is not your belief and I respect that. But no disrespect was intended by Coulter toward Jews, she merely stated what our New Testament says and what mainstream Christians believe.
Maxx on October 12, 2007 at 6:55 PM
No doubt … thanks for interjecting a little clarity into the situation.
darwin on October 12, 2007 at 6:58 PM
Perhaps Ann’s overall point was on values, but the statements she is getting lambasted for really have more to do with theology. She was being critical, yes, but of his beliefs, not of his ethnicity or character.
She was making a point about the Jewish idea versus the Christian idea, not about jews versus christians. There’s never been anything racist or anti-semitic about calling into question one’s ideas or beliefs, because people aren’t born hardwired to believe a particular thought. One may be born into a christian or jewish home, an one may even be born a Jew in the purely ethnic sense, but that doesn’t mean they have to believe as a jew or as a christian.
Someone may disagree with Anne’s idea that Christianity is right and Judaism is wrong, but it is illogical and incorrect to argue that she is hateful or anti-semitic, based on this exchange. It is never hateful to criticize an idea.
joe shmoe on October 12, 2007 at 7:01 PM
Quite simply another height-challenged small penis’d leftard with a platform, poking sticks at lions.
He’s useless.
She’s wonderful.
commonsensehoosier on October 12, 2007 at 7:02 PM
It is if you’re a conservative – at least that’s what libs think.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Probably sums up why I don’t comment there much, anymore. Too much dogma – not enough critical thinking.
deesine on October 12, 2007 at 7:05 PM
In Christianity all the labels go away and we become one big happy melting pot of believers. Ann, whom I do not look to for my theology, was merely pointing this out. It’s not an attack—she just happens to believe her holy book. Go figure.
jdpaz on October 12, 2007 at 7:05 PM
Ann is not even being criticized for what she said, She is being criticized for how DONNY took it and what HE did with her words.
sheesh.
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 7:11 PM
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Ann doesn’t have to say anything to get smeared or attacked. Just the fact she exists is enough to get them worked up.
jdawg on October 12, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Deutsch was looking for a reason to be offended, and he found one. There was nothing in the substance of her statement that was offensive.
PRCalDude on October 12, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Sometimes I can’t help myself.
Your welcome
peacenprosperity on October 12, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Sure. That’s what Christians believe. It’s about as basic as it gets.
I used to fault religious people for thinking that theirs is the only truth. But now I think requiring religious people to be skeptical of their own faith is nothing more than a denial of respect for, or misunderstanding of the nature of, faith itself.
My libertarian conservatism requires respect for individual integrity, including bona fide religious faith of others.
petefrt on October 12, 2007 at 7:24 PM
between this pretend offense taken to Coulter, the dems insulting Turkey while our troops are overseas, and Gore winning a nobel for a fictional movie he did….
Is there hope left for mankind?
If this is evolution we must be going backwards.
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 7:24 PM
You’re close to what scripture says… but you’ve got to deal with that sin problem. There is no peace with God for sinners!
This is why Isaiah gives us a spotlight on “two” Messiahs – one who comes in power and glory, another who is the most abused man of all time. The Suffering Servant came first to take the death penalty for our sin, making His millennial rule possible at His return. They are the same Messiah!
This salvation is a gift from God – pure grace that is totally unearned. That’s why we long for all to be saved – it is a gift that we desire all to receive.
But an interview like that serves a great purpose. We see man’s ugly pride fogging his brain to the point of anger in mere moments at the suggestion that he might be less than perfect all on his own!
Jesus was killed for preaching the same Gospel Ann said she wanted for everyone. The testimony of scripture (backed up by men who willingly faced death rather than recant its veracity) says that some men saw the miracles take place (proving the authority of Jesus) and reacted by making plans to kill Him!
Unfortunately, some folks still don’t like the message.
T J Green on October 12, 2007 at 7:24 PM
Amazing how people don’t like the message of Christ, don’t want to hear about it, but don’t have a problem with and even defend the Islamist’s right to practice what they preach. Literally practicing torture of women and the like as they preach it in their mosques.
Makes me want a drink.
I’m so glad Jesus made wine out of water.
:)
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 7:29 PM
Christianity which makes room for the doubting of Christianity, ceases to be Christianity. Thus have many old,
mainline churches, devolved into talking societies, who came to believe in one god at most, and so dwindled to insignificance.
Hence the rise of charismatics and born-agains, the dreaded, some times, all too obnoxious Evangelicals, who have thrived to such a point, they are now, by some, seen as a threat. Worse is their expressed Zionism and solidarity with Isreal.
So how to divide, Christian from Jew? But they delude themselves if they think they’ve found their opening here.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on October 12, 2007 at 7:29 PM
Nyog of the bog @ 7:29pm…..I keep reading your post here, but can’t seem to figure out what you’re saying. And I haven’t even had two sips of wine yet.
WHAT?!
bridgetown on October 12, 2007 at 7:33 PM
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