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	<title>Comments on: Shock: Security returning to Basra says Times of London; Update: Shiites starting to turn on Mahdi Army in Baghdad</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sadr brings out the long knives for &#8220;rogue&#8221; Mahdi Army members</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sadr brings out the long knives for &#8220;rogue&#8221; Mahdi Army members</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JAM beating him with rifle butts and breaking all four of his limbs. This goes right back to that Times story two months ago about the influx of teen punks and mafiosi into the Mahdi Army as lieutenants were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] JAM beating him with rifle butts and breaking all four of his limbs. This goes right back to that Times story two months ago about the influx of teen punks and mafiosi into the Mahdi Army as lieutenants were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kia used car</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-766549</link>
		<dc:creator>kia used car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;kia used car...&lt;/strong&gt;

Audio car speakers targeted towards older customers tend to emphasize the treble range....</description>
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<p>Audio car speakers targeted towards older customers tend to emphasize the treble range&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newsweek: Is Bush covering up news of decreasing Iraqi casualties?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newsweek: Is Bush covering up news of decreasing Iraqi casualties?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] among Shiites. Recall also that the key event in the momentary pacification of Basra was reportedly a &#8220;deal&#8221; struck between the various militias and the new Iraqi army commander in the city. Obviously some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] among Shiites. Recall also that the key event in the momentary pacification of Basra was reportedly a &#8220;deal&#8221; struck between the various militias and the new Iraqi army commander in the city. Obviously some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WaPo editorial: Let&#8217;s face it, the casualty trends in Iraq are cause for hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WaPo editorial: Let&#8217;s face it, the casualty trends in Iraq are cause for hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which is also optimistic and a must read in light of the reports a few days ago about the possibly waning influence of the Shiite militias in the south and Baghdad. Ammar al-Hakim is the son of and future successor to Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which is also optimistic and a must read in light of the reports a few days ago about the possibly waning influence of the Shiite militias in the south and Baghdad. Ammar al-Hakim is the son of and future successor to Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TallDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>TallDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are you saying they might be able to be made into something akin to the Turkish military, lets things go on their own unless things get choatic, then crack some skulls to get people back in line?

Bad Candy on October 11, 2007 at 10:51 PM&lt;/em&gt;

Not just Turkey.  Remember, the &lt;em&gt;United States&lt;/em&gt; military&#039;s oath is to the Constitution, not the President or the Senate or the Supreme Court.  This is not by accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you saying they might be able to be made into something akin to the Turkish military, lets things go on their own unless things get choatic, then crack some skulls to get people back in line?</p>
<p>Bad Candy on October 11, 2007 at 10:51 PM</em></p>
<p>Not just Turkey.  Remember, the <em>United States</em> military&#8217;s oath is to the Constitution, not the President or the Senate or the Supreme Court.  This is not by accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean's World</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-733481</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean's World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Shia Awakening...&lt;/strong&gt;


I&#039;ve been remiss in not mentioning this earlier, as it&#039;s probably the most important recent trend in Iraq: the militias are suddenly becoming unpopular as the citizenry belat......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Shia Awakening&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been remiss in not mentioning this earlier, as it&#8217;s probably the most important recent trend in Iraq: the militias are suddenly becoming unpopular as the citizenry belat&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Major John&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Thoughts on Mobilization&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Am I the only one without a website?  You are going thru the same crap I did, and I am active duty.  We trained in the snow (FT McCoy) for our summer sand-box vacation.  Alot has to do with your higher and highest leadership.  A lot of decisions are made quickly and that was the only place that could fit us in so quickly, and it has been used ever since.  But now, we are currently trying to lobby/negotiate/persuade the Army and our leaders for a more practical training site (already picked out) that also has better training.  Good luck, and stay safe. God speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Major John</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Thoughts on Mobilization</p></blockquote>
<p>Am I the only one without a website?  You are going thru the same crap I did, and I am active duty.  We trained in the snow (FT McCoy) for our summer sand-box vacation.  Alot has to do with your higher and highest leadership.  A lot of decisions are made quickly and that was the only place that could fit us in so quickly, and it has been used ever since.  But now, we are currently trying to lobby/negotiate/persuade the Army and our leaders for a more practical training site (already picked out) that also has better training.  Good luck, and stay safe. God speed.</p>
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		<title>By: major john</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-732618</link>
		<dc:creator>major john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Guapo - We used to refer to it thusly:

Step one, insert 30 round magazine and charge weapon;

Step two, point weapon in general direction of enemy and depress trigger;

Step three, hold trigger until magazine is empty;

Step four, Insh&#039;allah, my enemy will fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Guapo &#8211; We used to refer to it thusly:</p>
<p>Step one, insert 30 round magazine and charge weapon;</p>
<p>Step two, point weapon in general direction of enemy and depress trigger;</p>
<p>Step three, hold trigger until magazine is empty;</p>
<p>Step four, Insh&#8217;allah, my enemy will fall.</p>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-732496</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, also, the Iraqi military is superior because we are teaching them marksman skills while the majority of jihadis still rely on the &quot;spray and pray&quot; tactic.  What ever the bullets hit, civilians or infidels, it is Allahs will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, also, the Iraqi military is superior because we are teaching them marksman skills while the majority of jihadis still rely on the &#8220;spray and pray&#8221; tactic.  What ever the bullets hit, civilians or infidels, it is Allahs will.</p>
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		<title>By: El Guapo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-732488</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Two things I don’t understand, though. First, since when is the Iraqi Army such a superior fighting force that they can take on Iranian-trained militias like the Mahdi Army and Badr Brigades and “bash heads together” at will? &lt;/blockquote&gt;  -  &lt;strong&gt;Allahpundit&lt;/strong&gt;

Since they are now trained by us, that&#039;s when.  Remember Iraq&#039;s elite guards?  The Republican Guards and other secret service units he had?  We militarily embarrassed the heck out of them.  Yes Iran has a lot of military experience, but NOTHING compared to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Two things I don’t understand, though. First, since when is the Iraqi Army such a superior fighting force that they can take on Iranian-trained militias like the Mahdi Army and Badr Brigades and “bash heads together” at will? </p></blockquote>
<p>  &#8211;  <strong>Allahpundit</strong></p>
<p>Since they are now trained by us, that&#8217;s when.  Remember Iraq&#8217;s elite guards?  The Republican Guards and other secret service units he had?  We militarily embarrassed the heck out of them.  Yes Iran has a lot of military experience, but NOTHING compared to us.</p>
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		<title>By: major john</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-732084</link>
		<dc:creator>major john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For details (at least publicly disclosable ones...)

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/10/iraqi_security_force_4.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For details (at least publicly disclosable ones&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/10/iraqi_security_force_4.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/10/iraqi_security_force_4.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: major john</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-732021</link>
		<dc:creator>major john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Big A,

crosspatch and gator hit all the highlights before I could.  If you have a key area like Basra, and you are the IA, do you send your best, or do you send the unready?  Right now it looks like I will be working with a division that is somewhat in the middle of all this.  I&#039;ll let you know when I get there.

Chin up, man!  Don&#039;t you remember how &lt;em&gt;YOU&lt;/em&gt; helped keep &lt;em&gt;MY&lt;/em&gt; morale up while I was in Afghanistan in &#039;04-&#039;05?  Maybe it is my turn.  If I ever get back to the Large Apple, I&#039;m buying you a drink, &#039;k?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Big A,</p>
<p>crosspatch and gator hit all the highlights before I could.  If you have a key area like Basra, and you are the IA, do you send your best, or do you send the unready?  Right now it looks like I will be working with a division that is somewhat in the middle of all this.  I&#8217;ll let you know when I get there.</p>
<p>Chin up, man!  Don&#8217;t you remember how <em>YOU</em> helped keep <em>MY</em> morale up while I was in Afghanistan in &#8216;04-&#8217;05?  Maybe it is my turn.  If I ever get back to the Large Apple, I&#8217;m buying you a drink, &#8216;k?</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731801</link>
		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Amazing: Security Returning To Basra; Shiites Turning On al-Sadr&#039;s Mahdi Army...&lt;/strong&gt;

Such enormously optimistic news Allah&#039;s not sure if he should believe it or even mention it, because if it&#039;s real, he may jinx it. Long has been the hope that what happened in the Anbar Awakening could also happen among......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Amazing: Security Returning To Basra; Shiites Turning On al-Sadr&#8217;s Mahdi Army&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Such enormously optimistic news Allah&#8217;s not sure if he should believe it or even mention it, because if it&#8217;s real, he may jinx it. Long has been the hope that what happened in the Anbar Awakening could also happen among&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: locomotivebreath1901</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731528</link>
		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing succeeds like success. And a can of &lt;strike&gt;whoopi&lt;/strike&gt; whoop ass.

I think you nailed it, AP, but there is a twist:

The grand strategy is a ruse to entice the infidel invaders to voluntarily leave Iraq. Plus the defeatocrats in the states will seize upon this good news to trumpet a withdraw. The twist: Maliki will consolidate power, he will &#039;big tent&#039; the shias to the south, and the integrated military will be the police (hence the generals deal). If the peace and prosperity hold, the shia &amp; cosmo Iraqis will not tolerate a return of fanatical gangsters to turn the streets red again. With Iran gasping &amp; clutching the international ropes, national Iraqi attention now turns to the new threat - Turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing succeeds like success. And a can of <strike>whoopi</strike> whoop ass.</p>
<p>I think you nailed it, AP, but there is a twist:</p>
<p>The grand strategy is a ruse to entice the infidel invaders to voluntarily leave Iraq. Plus the defeatocrats in the states will seize upon this good news to trumpet a withdraw. The twist: Maliki will consolidate power, he will &#8216;big tent&#8217; the shias to the south, and the integrated military will be the police (hence the generals deal). If the peace and prosperity hold, the shia &amp; cosmo Iraqis will not tolerate a return of fanatical gangsters to turn the streets red again. With Iran gasping &amp; clutching the international ropes, national Iraqi attention now turns to the new threat &#8211; Turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: smellthecoffee</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731442</link>
		<dc:creator>smellthecoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Has &lt;strike&gt;Sadr&lt;/strike&gt; Ried finally overplayed his hand?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fixed it for ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has <strike>Sadr</strike> Ried finally overplayed his hand?</p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed it for ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731127</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be unexpected, but none of it should be incomprehensible.  There&#039;s a boatload of money to be made in a stable, oil-producing Iraq.  Even if Iraq had 1/10th the normal corruption of oil-producing nations, that would still make the elites very very wealthy.  When a car blows up outside your house, that money may seem inconsequential.  But when things are generally quiet, it probably starts looking prety good.

Look at the Kurds.  They were at each others throats for years under the US umbrella.  Then they got their act together and look how far they&#039;ve come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be unexpected, but none of it should be incomprehensible.  There&#8217;s a boatload of money to be made in a stable, oil-producing Iraq.  Even if Iraq had 1/10th the normal corruption of oil-producing nations, that would still make the elites very very wealthy.  When a car blows up outside your house, that money may seem inconsequential.  But when things are generally quiet, it probably starts looking prety good.</p>
<p>Look at the Kurds.  They were at each others throats for years under the US umbrella.  Then they got their act together and look how far they&#8217;ve come.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731099</link>
		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!!! If it&#039;s permanent. I&#039;m cynical enough now to believe that &quot;the game is afoot.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great!!! If it&#8217;s permanent. I&#8217;m cynical enough now to believe that &#8220;the game is afoot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/11/shock-security-returning-to-basra-says-times-of-london/comment-page-1/#comment-731002</link>
		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Peters point is that Blackwater is gouging America, irrespective of their behavior in Iraq. I have no way of personally knowing if they behave as badly as their detractors claim. But I think Ralph Peters has hit the problem squarely on the head.

georgej on October 12, 2007 at 6:00 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds like you care more about $$$$ than you do about the troops. A lot more. Shame on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Peters point is that Blackwater is gouging America, irrespective of their behavior in Iraq. I have no way of personally knowing if they behave as badly as their detractors claim. But I think Ralph Peters has hit the problem squarely on the head.</p>
<p>georgej on October 12, 2007 at 6:00 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like you care more about $$$$ than you do about the troops. A lot more. Shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;MB4 writes about the arrogance of Blackwater. Of course, he’s just repeating some anti-war “talking points” and anecdotal reporting.

georgej on October 12, 2007 at 6:00 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excuse me! 

It is not just arrogance, it is criminal behavior and their being an enemy of the U.S. Army! 

These &quot;anti-war &quot;talking points&quot; and anecdotal reporting&quot; as you call them are from Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa commander of the 3rd Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division and another Army Colonel!

So you are just repeating some silly goofiness.

You quote Peters as saying, &quot;Congress must defy its campaign contributors and criminalize attempts to hire those in uniform away from their service during periods of war and conflict.&quot;. That will never fly in a free country. Our Soldiers and Marines are not indentured serfs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>MB4 writes about the arrogance of Blackwater. Of course, he’s just repeating some anti-war “talking points” and anecdotal reporting.</p>
<p>georgej on October 12, 2007 at 6:00 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Excuse me! </p>
<p>It is not just arrogance, it is criminal behavior and their being an enemy of the U.S. Army! </p>
<p>These &#8220;anti-war &#8220;talking points&#8221; and anecdotal reporting&#8221; as you call them are from Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa commander of the 3rd Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division and another Army Colonel!</p>
<p>So you are just repeating some silly goofiness.</p>
<p>You quote Peters as saying, &#8220;Congress must defy its campaign contributors and criminalize attempts to hire those in uniform away from their service during periods of war and conflict.&#8221;. That will never fly in a free country. Our Soldiers and Marines are not indentured serfs.</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB4 writes about the arrogance of Blackwater. Of course, he&#039;s just repeating some anti-war &quot;talking points&quot; and anecdotal reporting.

Yet...Ralph Peters had a very illuminating column last Friday &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nypost.com/seven/10062007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/bribing_troops_to_quit.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(&quot;Bribing the Troops to Quit&quot;) &lt;/a&gt;that pointed out WHY they and the other Merc outfits are bad, not just for Iraq, but for the American taxpayer.

Peters says that we spend a lot of money training the spec ops people and vetting them, and then after their enlistment time is ending, we allow Blackwater to go head-hunting among our troops during a time of war and hire them away for a LOT MORE MONEY. 

Peters says that this makes no sense.  The government hiring of Blackwater and the other Mercs happens, as he notes, BECAUSE of a shortage of capable people available. Why the shortage? Because Blackwater has hired our people away in the first place. 

So, not only do we taxpayers pay for the background checks and training as part of their training as soldiers, but then we pay MUCH, MUCH more to hire back people who used to work for us, but at a much, much higher price. Whew. What a vicious circle!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nypost.com/seven/10062007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/bribing_troops_to_quit.htm?page=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peters solution&lt;/a&gt;? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Here&#039;s what we need to do to right a wrong that borders on treason: 

* Congress must defy its campaign contributors and criminalize attempts to hire those in uniform away from their service during periods of war and conflict. 

* If a service member put in a full 20 years or more and retired, he or she should be free to take a job with any law-abiding firm. But any soldier short of 20 who accepts specialized training and a security clearance at government expense should have to wait two years after his or her discharge before moving to a related private-sector position. 

* Defense contractors who hire young veterans with advanced skills or security clearances should have to reimburse the government 50 percent of their training and background investigation costs.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Non-compete agreements are common in business and industry. Why can&#039;t they be designed to apply to this situation? Reimbursement clauses are common in the professional sports business. Why not here as well?

Peters point is that Blackwater is gouging America, irrespective of their behavior in Iraq. I have no way of personally knowing if they behave as badly as their detractors claim. But I think Ralph Peters has hit the problem squarely on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB4 writes about the arrogance of Blackwater. Of course, he&#8217;s just repeating some anti-war &#8220;talking points&#8221; and anecdotal reporting.</p>
<p>Yet&#8230;Ralph Peters had a very illuminating column last Friday <a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/10062007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/bribing_troops_to_quit.htm" rel="nofollow">(&#8221;Bribing the Troops to Quit&#8221;) </a>that pointed out WHY they and the other Merc outfits are bad, not just for Iraq, but for the American taxpayer.</p>
<p>Peters says that we spend a lot of money training the spec ops people and vetting them, and then after their enlistment time is ending, we allow Blackwater to go head-hunting among our troops during a time of war and hire them away for a LOT MORE MONEY. </p>
<p>Peters says that this makes no sense.  The government hiring of Blackwater and the other Mercs happens, as he notes, BECAUSE of a shortage of capable people available. Why the shortage? Because Blackwater has hired our people away in the first place. </p>
<p>So, not only do we taxpayers pay for the background checks and training as part of their training as soldiers, but then we pay MUCH, MUCH more to hire back people who used to work for us, but at a much, much higher price. Whew. What a vicious circle!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/10062007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/bribing_troops_to_quit.htm?page=0" rel="nofollow">Peters solution</a>? </p>
<blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s what we need to do to right a wrong that borders on treason: </p>
<p>* Congress must defy its campaign contributors and criminalize attempts to hire those in uniform away from their service during periods of war and conflict. </p>
<p>* If a service member put in a full 20 years or more and retired, he or she should be free to take a job with any law-abiding firm. But any soldier short of 20 who accepts specialized training and a security clearance at government expense should have to wait two years after his or her discharge before moving to a related private-sector position. </p>
<p>* Defense contractors who hire young veterans with advanced skills or security clearances should have to reimburse the government 50 percent of their training and background investigation costs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Non-compete agreements are common in business and industry. Why can&#8217;t they be designed to apply to this situation? Reimbursement clauses are common in the professional sports business. Why not here as well?</p>
<p>Peters point is that Blackwater is gouging America, irrespective of their behavior in Iraq. I have no way of personally knowing if they behave as badly as their detractors claim. But I think Ralph Peters has hit the problem squarely on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr. Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further. And he has put the strategy in a broader context that plays down the importance of Iraq.

Terrorists “are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq,” Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that “there are no sure things,” and that if the United States fails in Iraq, “we have to be ready for that, too.” In California a few days later, speaking of “the danger of focusing on Iraq too much,” he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But in discussing the deployment of more troops, Mr. Giuliani has been alone in saying that such a strategy may not succeed, potentially providing him cover should the situation in Iraq deteriorate further. And he has put the strategy in a broader context that plays down the importance of Iraq.</p>
<p>Terrorists “are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq,” Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that “there are no sure things,” and that if the United States fails in Iraq, “we have to be ready for that, too.” In California a few days later, speaking of “the danger of focusing on Iraq too much,” he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The traitors at MoveOn.org, ANSWER, CodePink, and the far leftwing of the Demcratic party and PBS are crapping in their pants about now. The media is going to start reporting this.

The blackout on good news can&#039;t be kept up much longer. ABC News (Charlie Gibson) appears to have broken with the MSM and has started reporting the good news out of Iraq.

There is NO anti-Bush spin possible here. Further, PEW just reported that confidence in the MSM is at an all time low, even among Democrats, but essentially NON-EXISTENT among Republicans. 

If one starts looking at the print media&#039;s profit and loss statements and their circulation numbers, they are starting to hurt. Lower circulation means lower advertising rates means lower profits, if not losses. This is washing through to the broadcast media as well. MSNBC is about dead, with viewership essentially non-existent.  And if GE does NOT dump NBC next year, you can bet that MSNBC will be shuttered instead.  

The conscious decision to attempt to manufacture consent against the war has not been a success, and I think they know it.

Yes, they still do the mindless casualty reports, KIA Americans without context as to what our troop&#039;s mission was and if it succeeded. Some of them are certlainly reluctant to drop the anti-Bush, anti-war campaign, but pretty soon they aren&#039;t going to have much choice.

I&#039;m thinking the &quot;insurgency&quot; (as we knew it) is about over. 

The POLITICAL struggle in Baghdad is going to take center stage. In retrospect, until the Grand Mosque bombing, sectarian violence among Iraqi&#039;s was not excessive (or at least not as excessive as it was after the bombing). The bombing was a deliberate Al Qaeda ploy to turn Shia against Sunni, and it succeeded.

Remember, that for hundreds of years, Sunni and Shia have peacefully coexisted, even intermarried, in Iraq.  While rivalries between Shia and Sunni existed, they didn&#039;t turn (first) resentful until Saddam, and (second) extremely violent until the Grand Mosque was first bombed.

Al Qaeda has since become a monster in most Iraqi&#039;s eyes.

As Victor Davis Hanson wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;A common theme heard from analysts and intelligence officers is the abject irreligious nature of al Qaeda. It is not quite zealotry to cut off the fingers of smokers, take 14-year old “brides”, mutilate the dead, force bodies to remain unburied, and steal businesses, homes and cars. Those are verifiable incidents—in addition to the other often told rumors of the terrorists serving children up to their parents or the employment of former male prostitutes as Al Qaeda heads. We think of bin Ladenism as a perverted distortion of Islam, but on the street level it is more a cover for gasoline and food racketeering, petty theft, and murder by young criminally-minded youth.&quot;

Victor Davis Hanson, &quot;Impressions of Iraq—part II,&quot; 10/7/2007, http://victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com/2007/10/07/impressions_of_iraqpart_ii.php]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And so, the Middle Eastern dictate of &quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&quot; is operative here. Our &lt;em&gt;Golden Hour &lt;/em&gt;will be that time period between the eradication of Al Qaeda as any kind of threat and the completion of the training and integration of Iraqis into to their military and police forces.

I think Petraeus is counting on this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;That said, Iraqis are trying to adopt much of the ethos of the American office corps, and thus a constant refrain in training is the need for them to get out, risk danger, and treat their subordinates with respect.

Many are doing just that—to such a degree entire units are starting to emerge that are probably better than any in the Arab Middle East. Surely one fear of Iraq’s neighbors is that if this country ever gets settled down, its army will be one of the most professional and competent in the region.&quot;

[Ibid.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

IMHO, the emerging competence of Iraq Army, plus the beginning of a political maturity (evidence being the &quot;truces&quot; being formed between the Shia militias, and between the Shia-led government and the Sunnis) gives the Iraqi people the best shot at having a peaceful and prosperous country.

What I gleaned from Yon, Roggio, Hansen, and the others, about Iraq, is that our forces are starting to be seen LESS as &quot;invaders&quot; and &quot;occupiers&quot; and MORE as builders, trainers, and reliable partners.

Major John, I certainly hope my analysis is not naive, because if things are as I think they are, your job will be much easier and much safer. 

Of course, it can all go south in a hurry. I hope that doesn&#039;t happen. This process MUST NOT FAIL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traitors at MoveOn.org, ANSWER, CodePink, and the far leftwing of the Demcratic party and PBS are crapping in their pants about now. The media is going to start reporting this.</p>
<p>The blackout on good news can&#8217;t be kept up much longer. ABC News (Charlie Gibson) appears to have broken with the MSM and has started reporting the good news out of Iraq.</p>
<p>There is NO anti-Bush spin possible here. Further, PEW just reported that confidence in the MSM is at an all time low, even among Democrats, but essentially NON-EXISTENT among Republicans. </p>
<p>If one starts looking at the print media&#8217;s profit and loss statements and their circulation numbers, they are starting to hurt. Lower circulation means lower advertising rates means lower profits, if not losses. This is washing through to the broadcast media as well. MSNBC is about dead, with viewership essentially non-existent.  And if GE does NOT dump NBC next year, you can bet that MSNBC will be shuttered instead.  </p>
<p>The conscious decision to attempt to manufacture consent against the war has not been a success, and I think they know it.</p>
<p>Yes, they still do the mindless casualty reports, KIA Americans without context as to what our troop&#8217;s mission was and if it succeeded. Some of them are certlainly reluctant to drop the anti-Bush, anti-war campaign, but pretty soon they aren&#8217;t going to have much choice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the &#8220;insurgency&#8221; (as we knew it) is about over. </p>
<p>The POLITICAL struggle in Baghdad is going to take center stage. In retrospect, until the Grand Mosque bombing, sectarian violence among Iraqi&#8217;s was not excessive (or at least not as excessive as it was after the bombing). The bombing was a deliberate Al Qaeda ploy to turn Shia against Sunni, and it succeeded.</p>
<p>Remember, that for hundreds of years, Sunni and Shia have peacefully coexisted, even intermarried, in Iraq.  While rivalries between Shia and Sunni existed, they didn&#8217;t turn (first) resentful until Saddam, and (second) extremely violent until the Grand Mosque was first bombed.</p>
<p>Al Qaeda has since become a monster in most Iraqi&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>As Victor Davis Hanson wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;A common theme heard from analysts and intelligence officers is the abject irreligious nature of al Qaeda. It is not quite zealotry to cut off the fingers of smokers, take 14-year old “brides”, mutilate the dead, force bodies to remain unburied, and steal businesses, homes and cars. Those are verifiable incidents—in addition to the other often told rumors of the terrorists serving children up to their parents or the employment of former male prostitutes as Al Qaeda heads. We think of bin Ladenism as a perverted distortion of Islam, but on the street level it is more a cover for gasoline and food racketeering, petty theft, and murder by young criminally-minded youth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Victor Davis Hanson, &#8220;Impressions of Iraq—part II,&#8221; 10/7/2007, <a href="http://victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com/2007/10/07/impressions_of_iraqpart_ii.php" rel="nofollow">http://victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com/2007/10/07/impressions_of_iraqpart_ii.php</a></p></blockquote>
<p>And so, the Middle Eastern dictate of &#8220;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&#8221; is operative here. Our <em>Golden Hour </em>will be that time period between the eradication of Al Qaeda as any kind of threat and the completion of the training and integration of Iraqis into to their military and police forces.</p>
<p>I think Petraeus is counting on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That said, Iraqis are trying to adopt much of the ethos of the American office corps, and thus a constant refrain in training is the need for them to get out, risk danger, and treat their subordinates with respect.</p>
<p>Many are doing just that—to such a degree entire units are starting to emerge that are probably better than any in the Arab Middle East. Surely one fear of Iraq’s neighbors is that if this country ever gets settled down, its army will be one of the most professional and competent in the region.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Ibid.]</p></blockquote>
<p>IMHO, the emerging competence of Iraq Army, plus the beginning of a political maturity (evidence being the &#8220;truces&#8221; being formed between the Shia militias, and between the Shia-led government and the Sunnis) gives the Iraqi people the best shot at having a peaceful and prosperous country.</p>
<p>What I gleaned from Yon, Roggio, Hansen, and the others, about Iraq, is that our forces are starting to be seen LESS as &#8220;invaders&#8221; and &#8220;occupiers&#8221; and MORE as builders, trainers, and reliable partners.</p>
<p>Major John, I certainly hope my analysis is not naive, because if things are as I think they are, your job will be much easier and much safer. </p>
<p>Of course, it can all go south in a hurry. I hope that doesn&#8217;t happen. This process MUST NOT FAIL!</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Blackwater - with &quot;friends&quot; like them, the U.S. Army and the U.S. Marines do not need enemies&lt;/b&gt;.
*
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101030.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blackwater Guards Fired at Fleeing Cars, Soldiers Say&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Blackwater USA guards shot at Iraqi civilians as they tried to drive away from a Baghdad square on Sept. 16, according to a report compiled by the &lt;b&gt;first U.S. soldiers&lt;/b&gt; to arrive at the scene, where they found no evidence that Iraqis had fired weapons.

&quot;It appeared to me they were fleeing the scene when they were engaged. It had every indication of an excessive shooting,&quot; said &lt;b&gt;Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa&lt;/b&gt;, whose soldiers reached Nisoor Square 20 to 25 minutes after the gunfire subsided.
	
&lt;b&gt;His soldiers&#039;&lt;/b&gt; report -- based upon their observations at the scene, eyewitness interviews and discussions with Iraqi police -- concluded that there was &quot;no enemy activity involved&quot; and described the shootings as a &quot;criminal event.&quot; Their conclusions mirrored those reached by the Iraqi government, which has said the Blackwater guards killed 17 people. 

Tarsa said they found no evidence to indicate that the Blackwater guards were provoked or entered into a confrontation. &quot;I did not see anything that indicated they were fired upon,&quot; said &lt;b&gt;Tarsa, 42, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division&lt;/b&gt;. He also said it appeared that several drivers had made U-turns and were moving away from Nisoor Square when their vehicles were hit by gunfire from Blackwater guards.&lt;/i&gt;
*
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21163806/site/newsweek/page/0/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blackwater Is Soaked&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;The colonel&lt;/b&gt; was furious. &quot;Can you believe it? They actually drew their weapons on &lt;b&gt;U.S. soldiers&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;
The &lt;b&gt;colonel&lt;/b&gt;, who was involved in a follow-up investigation and spoke on the condition he not be named, said the Blackwater guards disarmed the &lt;b&gt;U.S. Army soldiers&lt;/b&gt; and made them lie on the ground at gunpoint until they could disentangle the SUV. His account was confirmed by the head of another private security company.
One military contractor, who spoke anonymously for fear of retribution in his industry, recounted the story of a Blackwater operative who answered a &lt;b&gt;Marine officer&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; order to put his pistol on safety when entering a base post office by saying, &quot;This is my safety,&quot; and wiggling his trigger finger in the air. &quot;Their attitude was, &#039;We&#039;re f---ing security; we don&#039;t have to answer to anybody&#039;.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Blackwater &#8211; with &#8220;friends&#8221; like them, the U.S. Army and the U.S. Marines do not need enemies</b>.<br />
*<br />
 <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101030.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">Blackwater Guards Fired at Fleeing Cars, Soldiers Say</a></p>
<p><i>Blackwater USA guards shot at Iraqi civilians as they tried to drive away from a Baghdad square on Sept. 16, according to a report compiled by the <b>first U.S. soldiers</b> to arrive at the scene, where they found no evidence that Iraqis had fired weapons.</p>
<p>&#8220;It appeared to me they were fleeing the scene when they were engaged. It had every indication of an excessive shooting,&#8221; said <b>Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa</b>, whose soldiers reached Nisoor Square 20 to 25 minutes after the gunfire subsided.</p>
<p><b>His soldiers&#8217;</b> report &#8212; based upon their observations at the scene, eyewitness interviews and discussions with Iraqi police &#8212; concluded that there was &#8220;no enemy activity involved&#8221; and described the shootings as a &#8220;criminal event.&#8221; Their conclusions mirrored those reached by the Iraqi government, which has said the Blackwater guards killed 17 people. </p>
<p>Tarsa said they found no evidence to indicate that the Blackwater guards were provoked or entered into a confrontation. &#8220;I did not see anything that indicated they were fired upon,&#8221; said <b>Tarsa, 42, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division</b>. He also said it appeared that several drivers had made U-turns and were moving away from Nisoor Square when their vehicles were hit by gunfire from Blackwater guards.</i><br />
*<br />
 <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21163806/site/newsweek/page/0/" rel="nofollow">Blackwater Is Soaked</a></p>
<p><i><b>The colonel</b> was furious. &#8220;Can you believe it? They actually drew their weapons on <b>U.S. soldiers</b>.&#8221;<br />
The <b>colonel</b>, who was involved in a follow-up investigation and spoke on the condition he not be named, said the Blackwater guards disarmed the <b>U.S. Army soldiers</b> and made them lie on the ground at gunpoint until they could disentangle the SUV. His account was confirmed by the head of another private security company.<br />
One military contractor, who spoke anonymously for fear of retribution in his industry, recounted the story of a Blackwater operative who answered a <b>Marine officer&#8217;s</b> order to put his pistol on safety when entering a base post office by saying, &#8220;This is my safety,&#8221; and wiggling his trigger finger in the air. &#8220;Their attitude was, &#8216;We&#8217;re f&#8212;ing security; we don&#8217;t have to answer to anybody&#8217;.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: gator70</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3 Iraqi companies I worked with quite recently were pretty darn good. And I did work with some leadership that could bash some heads for sure. If we stepped back and let them go to town they way they want too, this would be cleared up sooner rather than later. However them learning to fight the American way utilizing Western values  and our moral compass has been quite a gap for them to cross. After working with them for awhile, seeing one of them get hurt or killed can hurt almost as bad as losing a fellow american. These guys dont get to go home after a year. I wish they had the same support you guys have given us. I wish there was a way they could be sent care packages like we get, that would go a long way. They are pretty good guys for the most part, just culturally different and a bit frustrating at times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3 Iraqi companies I worked with quite recently were pretty darn good. And I did work with some leadership that could bash some heads for sure. If we stepped back and let them go to town they way they want too, this would be cleared up sooner rather than later. However them learning to fight the American way utilizing Western values  and our moral compass has been quite a gap for them to cross. After working with them for awhile, seeing one of them get hurt or killed can hurt almost as bad as losing a fellow american. These guys dont get to go home after a year. I wish they had the same support you guys have given us. I wish there was a way they could be sent care packages like we get, that would go a long way. They are pretty good guys for the most part, just culturally different and a bit frustrating at times!</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be ORDER of battle .... I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be ORDER of battle &#8230;. I think.</p>
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