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Famous Iranian “moderate” on the Holocaust: They had it coming

posted at 6:51 pm on October 11, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Recognize the man in the screencap? Ahmadinejad gets all the press but this turd is probably the second-most powerful man in Iran right now behind only Khamenei himself, which stands to reason given that he’s in line to succeed him. It’s Akbar Rafsanjani, former president of the Islamic Republic and current head of the Assembly of Experts, Iran’s answer to the college of cardinals. Ahmadinejad defeated him for the presidency in 2005 in a contest between hardline nut and “pragmatist” nut, but since then the two men’s fortunes have reversed (have they ever).

Here he is displaying a little of that trademark “pragmatism,” riding a favorite hobbyhorse of the mullahs by pronouncing on their most notorious historical obsession. He’s careful not to say precisely what it is that Hitler’s responsible for, only that it was at least in part a reaction to “Zionism.” That dovetails nicely with the line taken in Iran’s new Holocaust miniseries as well as the disjunctive rhetoric often directed by Iranian leaders at Jews, on the one hand, whom they profess to love, and towards “Zionists” on the other, for whom no punishment is too harsh or fate too gruesome. I know I beat this horse a lot but given the left’s bleating about unfair “demonization” of these fascist cretins it can’t be stated often enough: note how closely his argument tracks the most vintage, vicious anti-semitic propaganda about Jewish cabals, with the important substitution of Zionists, on whom it’s safe to wish the worst sort of atrocities, for Jews generally. In fact, I’m hesitant to even call what he’s making here an argument. Hitler expelled the Jews from Europe because the Zionists … wanted the Jews to leave Europe? Chew on that for awhile and let me know what you come up with. Click the image to watch.

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So, Iran is moving away from there was no Holocaust, to the Holocaust was a good idea, just poorly executed eh?

doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 6:55 PM

So now we see what a “moderate” Islamic is.

Maxx on October 11, 2007 at 6:56 PM

Europe Died In Auschwitz

By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz.We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world. The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.

These are the people we burned, and under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime…

JiangxiDad on October 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

JiangxiDad on October 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

That has got to be an epiphany on a level with realizing you just woke up in He11…

doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 7:01 PM

His absolutely absurd claims (”the Zionist [were a] strong policital party” who “had a lot of property” and “made the European governments helpless”) are more laughable than the fantasy that the Holocaust never happened.

But he’s learned Goebbels’ lesson: if you tell a lie big enough and often enough, people start to beleive it…

pavruch on October 11, 2007 at 7:13 PM

Sorta flies in the face of holocausts deniers.

Next realization, de-evolution.

Kini on October 11, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Chew on that for awhile and let me know what you come up with.

OK, I’ve chewed.

What I’ve come up with are a couple of math formulae:

Islam = Insane
Islam = Ignorant
Islam ≈ Evil ± √π

LegendHasIt on October 11, 2007 at 7:23 PM

JiangxiDad on October 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

That is so true, I want to cry. The left is willing to commit civilizational suicide in the name of diversity.

stonemeister on October 11, 2007 at 7:31 PM

Great link, JiangxiDad. Thanks!

The differences could not be more pronounced. The most obvious is that God (the God of Jews and Christians) is creative, and Allah is destructive — a culture of life vs. a culture of death. If it weren’t for the fact that western civilization is largely turning its back on its Judao-Christian roots and embracing suicide-by-multiculturalism, Islam would die out on its own.

Splashman on October 11, 2007 at 7:38 PM

He’s talking to children.

America’s schools are all of a sudden appearing to be quite good better than some other countries’.

Drum on October 11, 2007 at 7:40 PM

Would that mean he doesn’t question that the Holocaust happened? I thought Iran held a conference and determined it never happened.

amerpundit on October 11, 2007 at 7:41 PM

So, when the MOABs begin falling on Tehran, we can say, “They asked for it.”

madmonkphotog on October 11, 2007 at 8:08 PM

What I can’t figure out is why this doesn’t work in reverse. What I mean is that we know Hitler was, to put it mildly, an anti Semite.

Fine.

If Hitler’s Anti-Semitism was really Anti-Zionism, why isn’t Anti-Zionism really Anti-Semitism?

Blaise on October 11, 2007 at 8:26 PM

Allah = Heh.

Jaibones on October 11, 2007 at 8:27 PM

AP-

How dare you demean innocent fecal matter with this vile comparison.

Not even a dung beetle would roll this clod away.

profitsbeard on October 11, 2007 at 9:16 PM

If Iran keeps it up,were going to let them know
there going to have it coming.

canopfor on October 11, 2007 at 9:22 PM

I know I beat this horse a lot but given the left’s bleating about unfair “demonization” of these fascist cretins it can’t be stated often enough: note how closely his argument tracks the most vintage, vicious anti-semitic propaganda about Jewish cabals, with the important substitution of Zionists, on whom it’s safe to wish the worst sort of atrocities, for Jews generally.

His argument is simply tracking the Qur’an. Mohammed maintained a worse paranoia about the Jews than Hitler.

PRCalDude on October 11, 2007 at 9:27 PM

If anybody wants to see raw footage of some
of the camps days after the Germans surrendered,
Hitchcock filmed it,it’s on Atlas Shrugs website.

canopfor on October 11, 2007 at 9:32 PM

If Hitler’s Anti-Semitism was really Anti-Zionism, why isn’t Anti-Zionism really Anti-Semitism?

Blaise on October 11, 2007 at 8:26 PM

Ali Akbar Rafsajani Gumby-My brain ‘urts! *bashes his head with two bricks*

Sorry, had to slip in a Monty Python Gumby reference somewhere.

mram on October 11, 2007 at 9:43 PM

JiangxiDad on October 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

Truth

Connie on October 11, 2007 at 10:15 PM

JiangxiDad on October 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

Wow. That is one hell of an indictment.

infidel4life on October 11, 2007 at 10:20 PM

canopfor on October 11, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Where? I looked, but couldn’t find it. My grandson is studying the Holocaust right now. I’d like to pass the film on to him.

Connie on October 11, 2007 at 10:51 PM

So, when the MOABs begin falling on Tehran, we can say, “They asked for it.”

madmonkphotog on October 11, 2007 at 8:08 PM

How about begged. pleaded, demanded insisted, gave us no choice, or would you rather vote Ron Paul?

doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 11:11 PM

In fact, I’m hesitant to even call what he’s making here an argument. Hitler expelled the Jews from Europe because the Zionists … wanted the Jews to leave Europe? Chew on that for awhile and let me know what you come up with.

As he defines it, Zionism = having lots of money and lots of influence through propaganda. Zionism includes a state of being and is not necessarily tied to claims to a particular plot of land. So Rafsanjani thinks either (i) the state of being and land claims are disjunctive (though not exclusively so) or (ii) the land holdings and claims are merely symptomatic of the greed and malice that he and other ‘Protocols’ theorists think Zionism is.

jaychandra on October 11, 2007 at 11:17 PM

A

s he defines it, Zionism = having lots of money and lots of influence through propaganda. Zionism includes a state of being and is not necessarily tied to claims to a particular plot of land. So Rafsanjani thinks either (i) the state of being and land claims are disjunctive (though not exclusively so) or (ii) the land holdings and claims are merely symptomatic of the greed and malice that he and other ‘Protocols’ theorists think Zionism is.

jaychandra on October 11, 2007 at 11:17 PM

In other words jew’s=bad…

doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 11:37 PM

This is a real-life Saruman inciting his orcs. How long can our civilization pretend that it can co-exist with something this dark and vile?

Travis Bickle on October 12, 2007 at 2:12 AM

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