A Marine Truther? Updated: “Johnny Wave”
posted at 4:55 pm on October 11, 2007 by Bryan
Does anyone have any idea who the gentleman on the left is?
Whoever he is, he was seen in Marine dress blues today, holding a “9-11 Truth Now” sign. Here’s all that we know so far.
I just got a call from my wife on her lunch break. Seems there was a group of Truthers at the Promonade in Santa Monica, CA and in their ranks was a Marine in full dress blues. She said, “I almost punched him in the face”. I love her.
Anyway, I told her to go back and get some pics with her cell phone. She was only able to get a couple before the guy left, receiving many thanks from his Twoofer pals.
If the gentleman is a real Marine (and I would be unsurprised to learn that he isn’t), I’m sure Jon “I am the troops” Solz will want to have a talk with him, since military members aren’t supposed to wear their military uniforms while engaging in political activity.
Update: Here’s a close-up of the Marine’s medals. The pics were taken with a cell camera, as mentioned above, so they’re low quality. Also as mentioned above, the guy was gone before more and better pics could be taken.
Here’s what looks to be the type of sign he was carrying.
Update: I see some speculation about his shoes/boots in comments. Here’s a close-up, with the color goosed and contrast exaggerated so that you can see them a little better. It’s hard to tell, but they don’t look like cowboy boots to me.
Update: I go off for a little while and you guys conduct an investigation. So the question now is, is our Marine Johnny Wave?
Update: A couple more photos to look at. Courtesy what must be a one-man outfit called Republicans for 9-11 Truth, here’s “Johnny Wave” out holding one of those signs again, probably in West Hollywood iirc from the last time I was there.
And here is what might be the same gentleman’s publicity photo. If they’re the same guy, then “Johnny Wave” is actually an aspiring actor by the name of Zach. That doesn’t mean that he’s not a real Marine, since he might be, but if he is he ought not be out there wearing his uniform during protests.
Here’s a close-up of Johnny Wave’s medals, for you Marines in the crowd. It’s not a great close-up, but it’s better than the first one.
Update: I was a bit skeptical, but it does look like Zach’s our guy. Here’s a cropped version of this shot, from a June 11 protest (they’re out protesting on the 11th of each month). Compare it to the publicity shot above.
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If he is, whoopty doo. He’s the first one in 4 years. There aren’t likely to be many others.
If he isn’t, tell a group of real Marines. They’ll show him what it means to be a Marine.
Regardless, you don’t punch a Marine in the face. Not if you value your well-being.
MadisonConservative on October 11, 2007 at 4:57 PM
Phony soldier? There I said it. Nah, nah, nah, nah__ nah, nah.
Griz on October 11, 2007 at 4:57 PM
If he is a Marine, tell a group of Marines. They’ll show him what it means to be a Marine.
doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Bryan,
The caption under the photo said it all. How sad it is indeed..
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Any reason your wife can’t get his name?
bnelson44 on October 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM
say word
ernesto on October 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Thinking the same thing. Phony.
Kini on October 11, 2007 at 5:03 PM
Another request: can you get a close up on the ribbons he is wearing?
bnelson44 on October 11, 2007 at 5:03 PM
lets all calm down until we find out if he is a marine or not.
If he is phony, shame…and if he is a marine I guess he has earned the right to express himself…even if it is against regulations to do so in uniform.. He would be aware of the regs regrding this..
robo on October 11, 2007 at 5:06 PM
In the second photo, there is a sliver shot of his shoe. Call me crazy or uninformed; but, it seems to be a pointed toe shaped as opposed to the glossy round toe shoes.Is he a poser?
allie on October 11, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Couple of scenarios:
A) He’s a real Marine Twoofer, and the first seen since 9/11.
B) He’s a Troofer’s bud who was asked to do it to be, like, totally cool man!
C) He’s a Troofer who’s not actually a Marine but dressed up so their cause would gain credibility. (Would you put it past people who think Bush brought down the WTC?)
amerpundit on October 11, 2007 at 5:08 PM
I’m quite sure he’s not a Marine. I am concerned, though, how and where he got the uniform. The fact that he has been so well photographed means that he’s dead as far as impersonating a Marine. Figuratively, of course.
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:10 PM
Likeliness
A – 15%
B – 20%
C – 65%
Defector01 on October 11, 2007 at 5:11 PM
ok there are lots of marines/former marines/dress blue uniforms floating around out there. lots of possiblities, dont let this dude tarnish the marines rep
bagadeez04 on October 11, 2007 at 5:13 PM
despicable to the honor of the Marines, if in fact this isn’t someone just using a uniform.
Pam on October 11, 2007 at 5:13 PM
If he is, he’s a “Murtha” Marine. Which is to say, not really much of one. I hate it when people make my Marine Corps look bad.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:14 PM
Any one notice the size of the arch of his foot in the second photo( one with bent leg)? Dress shoes have no arch height like that. Hard to tell but I am suspicious.
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:15 PM
I would like to think this person just rented the Marine Dress Blues at a local shop and was doing this for effect.
However, if he turns out to be a real Marine, I do believe some addition time with GySgt. Hartman would be in order:
http://www.killerclips.com/clip.php?id=82&qid=808
Wuptdo on October 11, 2007 at 5:16 PM
This makes no friggin’ sense. If he’s a twoofer, then he joined the marines so his Commander-in-Chief can be the guy who he thinks attacked America? Huh?
trubble on October 11, 2007 at 5:16 PM
If he is a real Marine and if he is active duty, he’s in direct violation of the UCMJ. Active duty military are not allowed to participate in any kind of political protest.
Maxx on October 11, 2007 at 5:17 PM
I caught it also. I get the impression it is one of the 60s beatles mod boots
allie on October 11, 2007 at 5:18 PM
The ribbons are really hard to see, but I can’t make out a firewatch ribbon at all. (Nat Defense Service Medal) – Also, the “shoes look more like cowboy boots. Not exactly regulation…
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Hey I’m a Marine, can I punch him in the face?
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:19 PM
Yes.
I’m a former Marine (’75 – ’85) so punch him once for me -
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:20 PM
Goes without saying, YES.
And kick him in the balls he doesn’t have for me, will ya?
MadisonConservative on October 11, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Funny I noticed that as well. I though they looked an awful lot like a square toes dress boots, something kind of like this. Nothing what so ever like genuine military approved foot wear.
doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 5:24 PM
jdawg
Semper Fi
I was ( 1968 – 1972)
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:24 PM
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:24 PM
OORAH!!!
I bet you’ve chewed your share of dirt, for sure.
Semper Fi!
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:25 PM
In uniform, that is.
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 5:25 PM
I am not convinced that is a real Marine.
I should go down there to the Santa Monica Scum-onode.
americaslaststand on October 11, 2007 at 5:26 PM
And if that one is a Marine, he’s darn sure not wearing the correct shoes for his uniform, as others have pointed out. Oppsie!
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Can I get in??? Retired Navy… but I’ve punched a few Marines in the face before… in a nice freindly manner of course… you know… Political discourse in bars and such…
LOL
Romeo13 on October 11, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Got to love that R. Lee Ermey…Of course if you’re a watermelon I’d be damn scared of him if I was you…
doriangrey on October 11, 2007 at 5:28 PM
If you ever come across a Soldier in uniform in a situation such as this you can ask him, is he or she active, what his outfit is, the name of his recruiter and office, and his last commanding officer.
americaslaststand on October 11, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Jdawg
Yes sir strained a few swallows of Vietnam river water through my teeth Yes sir.
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:29 PM
A Marine in Cowboy boots…ummm…me thinks he is not a Marine.
~B (in TX)
just say’in ;-)
Brian on October 11, 2007 at 5:31 PM
But, really, who actually believes in all that decorum and adhering to the mores of civil society bullshit?
tad on October 11, 2007 at 5:33 PM
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 5:29 PM
I’ll bet you have. I got in right before the cutoff for the Vietnam-era (by 1 day), so I never went there. Guarded a lot of the refugees at Camp Pendleton right after recruit training. Not a fun job.
God bless you for your service.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Brian on October 11, 2007 at 5:31 PM
When I was in boot camp, there was a platoon made up of recruits from Arkansas, and they all wore cowboy boots – but only in thier utilities. They did everything in those boots – it was supposed to be something “special” but we all thought it was just stupid and well, painful. It was supposed to have been part of a pilot program, but it didn’t go over very well.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:39 PM
An honorable job, nonetheless. I’ve noticed that those refugees (and their offspring) make some of the best Americans. They know what it’s like to live in a real hell-hole.
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 5:41 PM
You can buy used Marine Corps uniforms at most drycleaners outside of any military base. I would have loved to seen more detail on the blues to see if he had the right hardware. Everything was aligned correctly, so my thoughts are an EX Marine.
– SSgt, USMC-R
Mazztek on October 11, 2007 at 5:41 PM
This should not be jumped on right away and hard, even though my initial leaning is a poser.
Without better photos, ie someone there with a real camera or a newspaper cameraman it would be hard to nail down a faker like that unless you did facial comparisons to see if he shows up a the next go round in civilian clothes.
To me he looks real short to be a marine judging from the second photo. I know a few but they have to be tough as nails to get through basic pound for pound.
Hopefully someone who reads HA will have happened to be there with a digital camera and can send better shots.
Otherwise it is really a very hard issue to do an id with what we have.
If any of the local base marines look here I bet they will scan all their people to see if they have a close visual match.
CommentGuy on October 11, 2007 at 5:42 PM
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 5:41 PM
True.
But it still sucked at the time.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:44 PM
He is also out of uniform. What he has on is Undress Class C uniform and that requires white gloves.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Mazztek on October 11, 2007 at 5:41 PM
“EX” is right. Wished I could make out his ribbons a bit better – I can’t make out a firewatch ribbon, and I’ll bet there’s one or two that either (1) don’t belong, or (2) are in the wrong order. Those “shoes” definitely don’t look regulation to me.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:47 PM
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Nice catch. Although, I did know quite a few that didn’t always wear them all the time – like when eating – and would stick them in thier trouser belt.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Photos like that make me miss the old days when torture was ok at times. I almost wouldn’t object to this Marine(?) being hung by this thumbs for a few minutes. Actually, I guess I would object. How about tasering the bastard?
thuja on October 11, 2007 at 5:50 PM
My husband is a marine.
To those here that say you ‘were’ a marine. Nope, you still are. Once….always… :)
If this person actually IS a marine…which, I highly doubt….I imagine he is also a muslim. doh. lighten up and don’t attack me for this, please.
Also, these uniforms are available everywhere. Check your local salv. army, or ebay for that matter…
bridgetown on October 11, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Hmmmmm. The middle ribbon looks a bit like the Purple Heart. If that is the case, he should have at least a National Defense Service Medal, and Combat Ribbon. I can only see three ribbons and a qualification (?) badge. Seems funny to me though that IF it is a Purple Heart and he had been in combat, those are the only three ribbons/medals he had.
Of course this comes from a Soldier and in the Army we love our medals and ribbons a lot more than Marines do.
In any case, this Marine (if he is such) is an NCO (lance corporal) and a leader of troops. He DOES know better and should be stopped. Again, IF he really is a Marine.
thomashton on October 11, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Sorry, type O in original post
Dress Blue blouse with ribbons and badges, blue trousers, frame cap with white cover, dress white belt, service shoes, and white gloves.
He has no white gloves and those are not service shoes. He is as much a Marine as John Murtha.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Ther’s some better photos and video links of this ingrate at the LA 911 Truther site: http://www.911truthla.us/drupal
Britcop on October 11, 2007 at 5:53 PM
He is a little dude, isn’t he?
BelchSpeak on October 11, 2007 at 5:55 PM
bridgetown on October 11, 2007 at 5:51 PM
When I call someone and Ex Marine, it is because he has done something DISLOYAL and to DISHONOR or DISGRACE his fellow Marines.
For instance, Murtha calling the Haditha Marines baby killers and murderers, without any semblance of a trial.
This POS? We in the Military know all about the terrorists. He knows better, chooses to smear.
Mazztek on October 11, 2007 at 5:56 PM
Also, those uniforms are tailor made. If its loose around the collar, and it looks like its a little loose, then it wasn’t made for him.
BelchSpeak on October 11, 2007 at 5:57 PM
jdawg – from Arkansas – well there ya go. No wonder.
Being a 4th gen Texan…I have to say them there are boots on that Marine or x-Marine. I can’t say 100% being of non-mil background, but being from a sh*t kicking background they are easy to spot.
Brian on October 11, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Lance Corporal is not a NCO neither are the chevrons on that uniform. That is E4 Corporal 2 up one down and NCO. The medal on the left looks like bronze star without valor. It would be worn on the left of the purple heart. But in order for have a purple heart and a bronze star and whatever the lowest one (the one to the right of the Purple heart)is he would have more that 3 ribbons.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:02 PM
Heh. My stepfather was a game warden in Texas, wore those things everywhere he went. And you’re right, those are boots he’s wearing.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:02 PM
I wonder if it could be Johnny Wave?
“Please see further updates on website at http://www.911truthla.net. The below text re “Johnny Wave” is from Katy Kurzman-Steele who participated in the May 11th action. Please note we are still gathering information on Mr. Wave and his background.
Friends,
There are many heroes in this movement. There are ones who put their relationships, jobs and reputations on the line. Ones who whistle-blow and face the wraths of their departments. And then there are ones who will lay their lives on the line for the service of our country, come home and put everything on the line again, facing dishonorable discharge to court-martial, for their country in a fight possibly more dangerous. This is a man of courage and honor.
I understand what it is to take an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic, having taken the oath 3 times myself. Yet to see this man and to fathom the depth of his valor humbles me to the core.
Johnny will be present at our June 2nd meeting and will explain to our group his marine background and how he came to the 9/11Truth movement. Scott, Randy, Katy and others will discuss the May 11th action itself and plans for June and July ’11th’ actions. Please feel free to visit http://www.truthaction.org for details and to forward this e-mail to friends. They can subscribe via the link at the top of the 911truthla.net website.
Meet Johnny Wave, a new member of 911TruthLA: [see http://www.911truthla.net for photos and details ]
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2368&sid=3b623a1dd3c5f1dbe47c2c0e6157224a
More pictures of “Johnny Wave” in his Marine uniform. Pictures of him look the exactly the same size (body height, weight, physical structure) with him carrying that same 9/11 Truther sign.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%22johnny+wave%22+marine&gbv=2
Credit goes to “kokonut”
http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:02 PM
It looks like he’s wearing two rows of ribbons, and they’re rather hard to make out. I thought I saw a CAR, and some kind of unit commendation ribbon, but no NDSM. The one on the top right looks mostly yellow to me, but I’m half blind these days. For all I know, it’s some kinda WW 2 campaign ribbon.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:05 PM
I really need to get my crap together…
Downs don’t begin until E6 Staff Sgt.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM
Compare this ….
http://www.republicansfor911truth.com/news/images/johnny_wave.jpg
juxtapose it next to Hotair’s….
http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/img00082.jpg
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM
It could be the same guy.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:08 PM
Rockers, that is.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:09 PM
Yeah, it looks like it could be same guy and the location is right too. Good find.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 6:11 PM
jdawg…or Allah…note this caption..
“This photo of Mr. Wave was taken at a National Days of Truth Action protest from May 11th. These demonstrations are held on the 11th of every month.”
http://www.republicansfor911truth.com/news/
http://tinyurl.com/38tm4f
Today is October 11 that HotAir reported this 9/11 Truther Marine.
Gotta be Johnny Wave.
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:14 PM
correction:
“Today is October 11, the same day that HotAir reported this 9/11 Truther Marine incident.”
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:14 PM
There’s too many similarities. The only difference is the shades in the photos here.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:15 PM
If they aren’t, I’d sure like to know what they are. I do know they’re not regulation.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:17 PM
If he’s wearing a Purple Heart, that makes it more likely he’s a fraud. Every fake soldier, Marine, sailor or airman I can recall wore or claimed a Purple Heart.
Some people’s dishonor knows no bounds.
Unfortunately, I would not be surprised if he is real. Remember, TNR’s own Private Beauchamp is a real soldier-a POS, to be sure, but a real soldier nonetheless. You get enough apples together, eventually a bad one will turn up.
Just remember, whoever does the honors, you have to repeat “You can’t handle the truth!” when you administer the Code Red.
Lancer on October 11, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Sorry, but that is only 99.99% correct. A Marine is not always a Marine. John Murtha is a classic example. He dishonors the Marines and his country. He has no honor. Wearing of a uniform does not a Marine make nor does serving time in the Marine Corp, it is far more that that.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:20 PM
Youtube of Johnny Wave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRndGd3OeE – 89k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1Ru2n6dtg
Same guy?
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:21 PM
Here is an interview with Johnny Wave.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 6:22 PM
Even if it’s not the same guy, you now have Johnny Wave to question.
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:23 PM
So has “Johnny Wave” been verified as a “former” Marine? I would NEVER call this guy a Marine, regardless of standard practice.
Moroon maybe.
Gregor on October 11, 2007 at 6:24 PM
And here is his myspace page.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 6:25 PM
correction:
“Even if he’s not the same guy, you now have Johnny Wave to question.”
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:26 PM
They sure are and damned hard to earn. Also after putting the ribbons on that uniform in a graphics program it does look like 2 rows. The pictures on the other site do look like the same punk.
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:26 PM
to Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:20 PM
You’re right.
I guess my expectations are too high for all the people.
:)
Can’t murtha be tried for treason or something? and if so, what’s taking so long?!
bridgetown on October 11, 2007 at 6:27 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22johnny+wave%22+marine&gbv=2&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw
Google galore on Johnny Wave.
Kokonut on October 11, 2007 at 6:28 PM
Tell me about it. Took me six years to make Staff Sgt. Darn proud of those rockers, let me tell ya. Then I found out I was at my terminal rank because of my MOS (5711 – NBCD)
I believe it is, also. Trying to match up the ribbons he’s wearing – recognize the CAR, a Navy PUC, the NDSM, possibly a Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, but there’s a couple I don’t recognize and can’t find images of – the one between his NDSM and PUC, and the other one on the opposite side (bottom row, middle) that I don’t recognize. Any ideas?
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Wade on October 11, 2007 at 6:26 PM
I do find it interesting he doesn’t have a Good Conduct Medal. Maybe he was one of those that made Cpl very early and hasn’t been in 3 yrs yet, or he’s a total screwball, or he’s a fake.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:36 PM
I don’t have a myspace account, but if you do, you can see what he has under pics. The video directly on his page also gives a better view, but still grainy.
TheEJS on October 11, 2007 at 6:38 PM
Srry for the link, didn’t carry over: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=134056381
TheEJS on October 11, 2007 at 6:38 PM
TheEJS on October 11, 2007 at 6:38 PM
I’ll have to check it at home, we block myspace at work.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM
Well, I don’t think my wife (yes it was my wife) was actually going to do any “punching” of anyone’s face, she was just really honked off. She did the right thing and called a real Marine.
Sadly, while I was making phone calls to some pals to get them to join me for a little *ahem* stroll down the Promenade, she sent the pics and informed me that the guy had left.
After my initial disgust and disappointment in this guy, I decided that (if he is a real Marine) all he deserves is just that. My disgust and disappointment. He’s earned the right to wear the uniform, I just don’t like the fact that he would use it in such a fashion.
If, in fact, he is pretending to be a Marine, then I’m sorry I couldn’t get up there to say “hello”.
MikeZero on October 11, 2007 at 6:42 PM
TheEJS,
I will do that.
There is also this photo on Flickr.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 6:42 PM
Regarding his ribbons…. I’ve been trying to I.D. his Marine Corps Good Conduct and Iraq Campaign as well as Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. It took me 4 1/2 years to make E-5 and I was in combat. This guy should have his Good Conduct after 3. Something really smells. He should have three rows and in order.
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 6:44 PM
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 6:44 PM
Agreed. There’s a couple ribbons I can’t make out, and I compared what I could see with Google images (they have added some new ones in the last 20 years…) and theres one next to his PUC that I can’t ID. And there’s no Good Conduct. But, he may not have 3 years in, either.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:46 PM
After Vietnam, it got a lot easier to make Sgt. I made Sgt in 3 1/2 years, SSgt in 6. I knew guys that were making Sgt in under 3. Lots of “meritorious” promotions going out to try and keep retention high. Again, that was 20 years ago, so I don’t know what it’s like now.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 6:49 PM
TheEJS,
My Space photos here, here,
and here.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 6:54 PM
I’m being convinced that this may very well be Johnny Wave. If he is a Marine, he is misrepresenting his service at the least and trashing the uniform and our brothers at the worst. This is why people like ernesto and enrique and even Allahpundit cannot understand our anger or disgust over what we have defended and will defend; Things like our flag and yes MY uniform let alone the those offensive people I must call citizens.
MNDavenotPC on October 11, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Defin the best pic so far, trying to see if I can get it blown up without losing quality (what I get for not having my laptop with photoshop).
Good work with the research.
TheEJS on October 11, 2007 at 6:58 PM
Agreed. Anyone that’s ever been thru USMC recruit training will tell you that’s one uniform you have to earn.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 7:04 PM
In the radio interview Johnny Wave says that the movie
Loose Changed helped change his mind.
terryannonline on October 11, 2007 at 7:06 PM
Correction: According to this USMC regulation (pdf; page 78) a Marine might be able to wear cowboy boots with the uniform in question.
Bryan’s close-up, however, casts doubt on whether they’re cowboy boots.
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 7:08 PM
I was awarded my set of dress blues right out of boot camp at MCRD San Diego in 1968. Promoted to Pfc. and was platoon 2071′s right guard on graduation. I worked hard to get them I can tell you.
Sgt. Khe Sahn
1GooDDaDDy on October 11, 2007 at 7:15 PM
Just looked at your reference, that reg only applies to combat boots worn with the utility uniform, not the dress uniform. Cowboy boots do not fall in that category.
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 7:17 PM
1GooDDaDDy on October 11, 2007 at 7:15 PM
Semper Fi!
I was in platoon 2066, MCRD, San Diego, 1975. You sure did earn those blues!
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 7:18 PM
jdawg on October 11, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Couldn’t find a prohibition in the whole section on shoes (male).
baldilocks on October 11, 2007 at 7:21 PM
Semper Fi right back at you my brother “Teufels hounde”.
Sgt. Khe Sahn
1GooDDaDDy on October 11, 2007 at 7:22 PM
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