Open Thread
posted at 4:35 pm on October 10, 2007 by Bryan
We’re in one of those rare times when, for a variety of reasons, none of us can mind the site for a while. So here’s an open thread. Have fun, don’t break anything, and we’ll be back before long.










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Question: Does anybody here have OnStar and/or XM sat radio, do you like it/them and are they work the money?
Tony737 on October 10, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Loose that pessimistic attitude, you are now appointed special adviser to the Minister of beer fetching and opening. It will be your responsibility to ensure that the Minister of beer fetching and opening only fetchs the best quality beer.
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 5:33 PM
One of my relatives has both. He raves about OnStar and regrets the loss of his factory radio.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 5:35 PM
Thanks Baby, Mrs.737 and I just traded in both of our cars for big mean eeeevil SUVs with 1 year of free OnStar but only 3 months of free XM. So far it doesn’t seem like I’d need either, but we’ll give ‘em a try.
Tony737 on October 10, 2007 at 5:40 PM
I had ON star and Sirius sat radio and I disconnected both.
The ON Star was not by choice, my car is a 2001 and it had the analog cell phone.
FCC mandated that all analog cell towers need to be digital by 2008, so most of the towers shut down in this area.
It was nice to have, if I had a newer car then I would still have it.
Sirrus sat radio I could not really justify keeping it since I only drive about 15 min to work everday. (above 2001 car has 55,000 miles on it)
Was not worth the cost to only use it 30min per day.
F15Mech on October 10, 2007 at 5:40 PM
If only he could get one to me at work. I could use one- though that’s usually the case.
A non-comprehensive list-
Unacceptable:
Any form of Budweiser.
Any form of Coors.
Any form of Miller.
Any beer made in France
Any mass produced beer made in Canada
Anything that costs less than $5 a six pack.
Any beer you can see through.
Acceptable:
Samuel Adams (excluding cranberry lambic)
Anything Summit brewing makes (suck it, Minnesotans)
Guiness
Anything from Germany or Bavaria
Any American microbrew in which you can actually taste the hops and malt and doesn’t have any damn fruit in it.
Any beer you made in your basement.
Any beer given to you for free.
Hollowpoint on October 10, 2007 at 5:40 PM
I see someone found the keys to the liquor cabinet. You would think once we got to the grownup stage we wouldn’t spit paper wads when the teacher left the room. Guess not. ::grin::
Sue on October 10, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Oops- meant to say “suck it, NON-Minnesotans”.
Hollowpoint on October 10, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Quick hide the beer Allah is home.
F15Mech on October 10, 2007 at 5:45 PM
I would recommend the OnStar, out of concern for Little Cessna. I think you can get a really basic plan that’s inexpensive.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 5:45 PM
Jimmah Carta is making rumblings again. Lies. Out and out lies is all the man ever emits. I’ll be glad when he’s gone.
Griz on October 10, 2007 at 5:45 PM
OnStar is kind of like insurance, you’ll probably be paying for it your entire life and never need it. But the one time that you do need it it will be worth everything that you ever spent on it.
As for the XM, paying for radio strikes me as a bit rough. Of course I felt the same way about cable tv 25 years ago, and now I cant imagine not having it.
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Thanks EagleFixer. I drive an hour and a half to work! … But only once a week. I park it and fly for 3 or 4 days and then drive home. If the car is in the parkin’ lot for that long, I don’t know if it’s worth it, BUT the 90 mile drive might be.
Tony737 on October 10, 2007 at 5:47 PM
Good lord. Open thread=crack for commenters.
TexasDan on October 10, 2007 at 5:47 PM
I nominate Summit Grand as the official beverage.
infidel on October 10, 2007 at 5:47 PM
Yep the most basic plan is about $15 a month. (accident/roadside assistance).
I thought it was worth to have when I needed it a couple of times.
F15Mech on October 10, 2007 at 5:47 PM
I knew there was a reason I appointed you special adviser to the Minister of beer fetching and opening. Great job…You are going to go far in this administration sir…..
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 5:49 PM
Thanks DG, it’s like a condom, better to have and not need than to need it and not have it?
“Little Cessna” hahaha good memory, Baby! :-)
Tony737 on October 10, 2007 at 5:49 PM
Rockies/Sox WS.
Rockies in five.
Book it!
wccawa on October 10, 2007 at 5:50 PM
AP had his wisdom teeth removed…didn’t know they had tweezers that small.
5:55 Bombay on the way (with a little lime).
right2bright on October 10, 2007 at 5:51 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7038762.stm
bnelson44 on October 10, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Fosters Bitter in the 24-oz can… when you can only have one.
Coulter and Andrew Stein? Gross – but likely not true.
T J Green on October 10, 2007 at 5:53 PM
Remember the pitch?: Once we have pay TV, there will be no more commercials. Now we pay for TV and watch even more commercials.
That’s like paying a premium for light beer. They add water, then charge you more…and we think it is great.
right2bright on October 10, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Hey now…..Just because were drinking Allah’s beer is no reason to be getting all paranoid. Besides a) he is sick, has a fever and is delusional and b) we have had two successful coups here that he doesn’t even know about yet. Trust me, when he comes in and finds us drinking his beer it isnt going to any problem, the problems will start when he notices were all smoking his cuban cigars and have our feet up on the coffee tables.
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Haiku for an Open Thread:
The thread was open
The Airheads came to discuss
Topics of the day
kooly on October 10, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Crap. I realize only too late the omission of my conservative values…
Okay, so I was watching the local news before work to catch up on weather and traffic WHEN GMA came on, and I saw…
Better?
Califemme on October 10, 2007 at 5:57 PM
I’m studying for Mid terms and it’s driving me nuts but…I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok.
GoodBoy on October 10, 2007 at 5:57 PM
Sue, if I can’t romance the lock open, I’ll take the back panel off the cabinet.
And here’s my addition to the further randomization of this thread: Last night, the g/f and I had a conversation about how we really need to make sure the naughty playroom is soundproofed before we have kids that are big enough to be a problem over it. Heh.
ReubenJCogburn on October 10, 2007 at 6:00 PM
Heh heh heh god yes I remember that, in fact i was ranting and raving about that just a couple of weeks ago. But on the other hand I have pretty much decided to over look that since I also have high speed internet service on my cable.
And unlike some people I have been at this computer thing long enough to remember my first modem with its 300baud connection rate. It would have taken 3 hours just to download only the text portion of this thread…..
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:00 PM
I’m a day late and a dollar short (as usual), but my little Chevy has OnStar. I’ve used it a few times to get towed for various repair issues and to get directions (when I got lost). It really is useless otherwise, but I thank the Good Lord for the few and far between times I’ve actually had opportunity to use it.
My parents and I had a conversation about socialized vs. private medicine. They’re in Canada and aren’t in the health care field (I am). No matter what I said, they just didn’t get what the problems were. And we’ve had family who have had to wait for 6 months to 2 years for health care. I always ask people who want socialized medicine here, “You remember those immigration guys who let the 9/11 hijackers into the US? Do you really want the same people who did that to be in charge of your health care? Yeah, I didn’t think so.”
mjk on October 10, 2007 at 6:00 PM
I like to think of myself as a Hothead, not an Airhead.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:00 PM
I hereby declare this the official Hot Air Beer Service System:
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&vid=841cde95-868e-49b5-b632-dacc9e206c9f
peski on October 10, 2007 at 6:01 PM
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
But you can’t take the sky from me
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 6:11 PM
Umm guys, I know the source here is somewhat, umm questionable but DUDE! Might I remind you, this is the same source first to report on the Monica Lewinsky affair.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_cheating_scandal/celebrity/64271
Zetterson on October 10, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Firefly? And I did NOT google…
Califemme on October 10, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Ever tried Steelhead EPA from Mad River Brewing co.? Hard to find but oohhh so tasty. My favorite.
NTWR on October 10, 2007 at 6:19 PM
You’re right, Tony, I would say they were liberals. As I said, some of their experimental or novel ideas are good. Most are not. But you have to make a convincing case to “sell” one of the ideas. That doesn’t include lying, distorting, etc.
stonemeister on October 10, 2007 at 6:22 PM
Counting down until the ‘bats blame it on Bush. Three…two…
crushliberalism on October 10, 2007 at 6:22 PM
I miss Firefly.
Califemme on October 10, 2007 at 6:22 PM
Ever tried Stone Breweries Arrogant Bastard? It should be the official HotAir beer….. :)
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:24 PM
Site seems to be totally down. DOS attack? Mobbed by gossip mongers?
peski on October 10, 2007 at 6:25 PM
VERY USEFUL WEBSITE:
http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:25 PM
That’s another good one. With a fitting name to boot!
NTWR on October 10, 2007 at 6:25 PM
I’d like to bring this forward from The HEadlines: We need a new, Liberal Constitution.
Sabato, you out of touch little mewling carnival freak. The reasons you stated for changing the constitution are the very reasons we SHOULD NOT change anything.
It’s Of the PEOPLE, By the PEOPLE, and For the PEOPLE, NOT JUST YOU>
1)* Restoring the war powers balance. It was never unbalanced. Congress still and did authorize this and every other war. Accept it. YOU are anti-war, and tying to make it so we can never go to war.
2)* Creating a more representative Senate. 2 per state. California gets no more representation than Rhode Island. What you are describing is the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. I suggest you look up the difference between those branches and houses, and theor purposes, and think again.
3)* Transforming presidential elections You know what? Gore lost. Kerry Lost. GET OVER IT!! Kerry lost by the popular vote, too. Stop whining like a little spoiled child who won’t get his way. Actually, it might come out better by dividing the electorial votes. In Cali, more votes would have gone to Bush than you, because the only Dem area is the coastal LA through San Fran region. So, of our 25, 20 would have gone to Bush.
4) * Ending second-class citizenship. Oh BULL!
You know what? I wouldn’t mind voting for Arnold Schwartzenegger. But there’s no way in hell I will vote for anyone that isn’t born here. It’s a matter of PRIDE. And, the fact is, I’m sure you would LOVE to vote for Osama. 14.4 Million Immigrants. 302 MILLION Natural Born Americans.
Mazztek on October 10, 2007 at 6:27 PM
NO WAY! The article is claiming that John Edwards had an affair. Has an email from the woman apparently. Could be false but it is the same source who originally broke the Monica Lewinsky affair.
Zetterson on October 10, 2007 at 6:30 PM
Here’s the text:
Zetterson on October 10, 2007 at 6:31 PM
Uh Oh, Man Cited for Burning Mexican Flag… where’s the red meat picture?
*Sigh*
NTWR on October 10, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Mary Katharine Ham is so pretty! I’d love to ask her to pull my finger.
radjah shelduck on October 10, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Caution, friend. Pasting an entire article in here is copyright infringement.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Hillary’s Attack Machine is now at ramming speed…
T J Green on October 10, 2007 at 6:36 PM
You can Burn the US Flag and that is protected speech, but burn the Mexican Flag and you go to jail. Man there is something way frigging wrong here……
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:37 PM
MJK, sorry it took so long to reply (I was out mowin’ the lawn). That seems to be the impression I’m getting from H.A. Posters, you almost never use it, but when you do you thank God for it.
RushBaby, here at HotAir, the cons are the HotHeads and the libs are the AirHeads :-)
Tony737 on October 10, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Really? Even if its quoted and the source is sighted? If so thanks for the heads up. Won’t do that again. Yikes.
Zetterson on October 10, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Copyright shmapyright, this is the interwebs, there aint no stinkin copyrights here…/snark
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Hmmm, I guess that makes me a Hothead, and I was sooo looking forward to being an Airhead…
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:41 PM
Landshark
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 6:43 PM
I found out when a site AP had linked to went down. I had the text because I had emailed it to myself. A bunch of commenters were asking about the content, and I offered to post it. AP responded politely but firmly about the copyright thing. So instead I posted a summary that hit all the hightlights, in my words.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Fixed that for the Enquirer.
ReubenJCogburn on October 10, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Yeah, well then you’ll love this:
What is going on in this nation????
NTWR on October 10, 2007 at 6:49 PM
I had a couple of Irish Car bombs the other day. Taste like chocolate milk.
csdeven on October 10, 2007 at 6:49 PM
Interesting – from Gary Bauer’s End of Day email just minutes ago…
Testing the limits, indeed.
T J Green on October 10, 2007 at 6:49 PM
wherestherum & Califemme,
I also loved Firefly and have the DVD collection. But there are so few people who liked it. Why are we such a minority? I just can’t figure it out.
-FatOldGuy
Fogpig on October 10, 2007 at 6:50 PM
The fair use clause of the copyright protection act permits you to use excerpts from copyrighted works for academic, news, or parody purposes. In other words you didn’t have to put it in your own words, you just are not suppose to use the entire/majority of the copyrighted material.
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:50 PM
Hmmm, I was wondering why you were such a wreck today……. :p
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 6:52 PM
There’s no way this is true. I mean, even John Edwards can’t be that stupid… can he? But if it were true, I say, Hillary, you magnificent b@stard! I just have to admire that level of ruthlessness. It’s a bimbo eruption work of art.
Laura on October 10, 2007 at 6:52 PM
I totally get that. The article I was referring to did not lend itself to excerpts, IMO.
I linked to it here because it did affect me very deeply.
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Okay, who peed on the ficus?
Ugly on October 10, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Don’t look at me! I haven’t been drinking beer!
RushBaby on October 10, 2007 at 6:59 PM
Ficus, Burp….You surrre thas a ficus, Loooks like a Elmmm to meeee. Buuuuurp……
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Burp……….have tooo, I seed you…buuuurp……
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:05 PM
OK gotcha…..
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:06 PM
Amen!
Let the taps flow.
steveegg on October 10, 2007 at 7:07 PM
Sorry…today I killed again…
darn roaches!
Ropera on October 10, 2007 at 7:07 PM
As long as it’s not low-fat chocolate milk,….
steveegg on October 10, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Sidesss who keeepss a oak treee in the houseee…
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:08 PM
‘cept Miller
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:18 PM
That don’t look like no ficus to me.
steveegg on October 10, 2007 at 7:18 PM
And Ficus is pretty ticked off.
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:21 PM
Yea, I shought itts wasss a Maple treeee….
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:23 PM
Ohhh, sooo yeerr sayinn it waass Deputy Barney Ficus, Hmmm, I shough that was a pretttty funnny loookin Spruce treee…
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:26 PM
Not to worry doriangrey, I sent him on a beer run.
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:29 PM
We’re part of a cult. Most of Whedon’s shows seem to attract a cult following. I just recently saw the entire series, but I fell in love with it. And it gives me a thrill to see Nathan Fillion on Desperate Housewives, even if he looks strange in a nice shirt and khakis.
To all of you drunkards, how about getting a girl a Guinness, huh? On tap only, please. The bottled stuff is crap.
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:31 PM
Sure hope he’s better at it than Zane…..He left to get beer two hours ago and nobody has sen him since….
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:31 PM
Hollowpoint, where’s my Guinness?
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:32 PM
Shhhhh, be very quiet. I’m hunting wabbits.
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:33 PM
Hollowpoint is holded up in the hallway closet with the only keg of Guinness, an he’s being really weird right now. He swears theres a leprechaun in the kids bedroom plotting to steal the Guinness, so ya got to give him the secret knock and the password or he wont let you have any. P.S. the knock is shave and a hair cut, the password is swordfish…but you didnt hear it from me…
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:35 PM
Hunting wabbits??? you’re suppose to be finding the dang remote control for the TV…
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:37 PM
There he goes again. Always hogging the Guinness. Fine. I’ll get me a Harp. Who else wants one?
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:37 PM
I have it and I’m not giving it up!
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:38 PM
Thank GOD we do not have to sit through a Yankee game so I don’t mind who hods the remote.
Pass the chips.
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:40 PM
I hope dorian went on a beer run since Hollowpoint won’t let go of the Guinness.
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Errr..Ummm, hold that thought…(knock knock knock knock knock knock…swordfish, yes its me damn it…give me pint, quick…wherestherum has the TV remote and its the only way were gonna get to watch the monster truck races… K thanks..)….Hey wherestherum trade you the remote for a pint of fresh off the tap Guinness…. Hey little girly, what some Guinness????
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:43 PM
You all may have the remote but what will you do for the batteries? I have them.
Start the bidding!
On-my-soap-box on October 10, 2007 at 7:48 PM
I think On-my-soap-box has lost it
F15Mech on October 10, 2007 at 7:51 PM
Man we are soo going to miss the monster truck races…..
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:52 PM
ROFL. Thanks for the Guinness. Here’s the remote.
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Psh, I put batteries in it. So there.
wherestherum on October 10, 2007 at 7:53 PM
That’s it, I am officially quitting my job! You guys have all the fun while I’m working and exercising, like some kind of knucklehead.
Okay, I wanna play. I am now in front of my computer w/a vodka and Diet Sunkist (don’t hate beer drinkers, I’m trying to get teeny weeny bikini ready for a cruise in December).
What can my job be dear dorian??
hollygolightly on October 10, 2007 at 7:54 PM
Yup, somebody better get him another beer……..
doriangrey on October 10, 2007 at 7:55 PM
You can have some… when you take it from my COLD DEAD HANDS.
Hollowpoint on October 10, 2007 at 7:55 PM
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