Is Basra in chaos?
posted at 8:58 am on October 9, 2007 by Bryan
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Newsday says yes.
The British troop pullout from Iraq announced yesterday leaves Basra, Iraq’s second largest and most strategically important city, in near total chaos both politically and militarily.
It comes at a time when at least four Shia militias are fighting over the city, which is surrounded by most of the nation’s tremendous oil reserves and provides Iraq’s only gateway to the sea.
Equally vital for U.S. strategists, the city also controls the southern portion of the road from Kuwait to Baghdad, along which mostly all U.S. supplies are brought in.
But Confederate Yankee heard from Michael Yon, who is in Iraq and gives us an entirely different picture of Basra.
I know which one I believe.
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I’ve lost the ability to be shocked by MSM bias any longer. Their collective reprehensibility grows by the hour.
pistolero on October 9, 2007 at 9:03 AM
Must be a rightwing bush supporter, couldn’t be the truth.
/troll impersonator
Gwillie on October 9, 2007 at 9:08 AM
I loathe the MSM more every day.
bbz123 on October 9, 2007 at 9:17 AM
This story should be all over the news … no, not the story about Basra, but the story about “News”day making up phony news and being busted by Yon.
Tony737 on October 9, 2007 at 9:31 AM
Newsday is the local Long Island newspaper. Many might not know that it’s a far-left rag. O’Reilly recently referred to it as the most liberal paper in America. It is a Tribune Co. newspaper (LA Times, Chicago Tribune, etc.) It was recently embroiled in a circulation scandal of mammoth proportions, and readership is plummeting.
Growing up on Long Island, one did not see a home that didn’t get Newsday. It’s getting harder to find one that does today. About 3 million people live in Newsday’s immediate backyard, plus about 5 million more in nearby Queens and Brooklyn. Most recently, Newsday’s circulation dropped the most of any of the top 20 newspapers in the US. More than twice as many people read Murdoch’s NY Post than do Newsday. No one seems to have accurate circulation numbers for Newsday anymore, but it appears to be in the low 300,000’s. Pathetic for such a big market.
Moral of the story. Even the NY Times is a better read than Newsday. Ignore everything they say. Even the largely liberal locals do.
JiangxiDad on October 9, 2007 at 9:39 AM
Newsday’s report seems to be based upon news that is a month old. Early last month Basra was in worse shape than today. With the recent peace deal between Shiite groups we may see a trend to an more stable Basra. But the situation is still fluid there.
bnelson44 on October 9, 2007 at 9:45 AM
Newsday = associated (with terrorists) press.
~nuff said.
Why is Mr. Yon not a high profile correspondent for Fox News?
locomotivebreath1901 on October 9, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Michael Yon’s never given me any reason to doubt his reporting. The enemedia rarely give me anything but reasons to doubt their reporting.
ReubenJCogburn on October 9, 2007 at 10:10 AM
I have long since past the point where it is possibly for me to loath the MSM any more than I already do. In fact I can no longer even view them as misguided but well intending useful idiots. Their intentions have in my opinion be become indiscernible in difference from those of Benedict Arnold.
When Benedict Arnold betrayed George Washington and the Continental Army his reasoning was that the revolution was doom to failure and a quick decisive victory by the British would spare many of the Colonists lives. His treasonous actions were not taken out of spite, but of a desire to end the suffering and death he saw as inevitable.
Likewise the treasonous actions of the MSM have equally misguided humanitarian roots. Their initial premise is slightly different in that they believe American imperialistic expansionism to be the root of all evil in todays world. Yet the core of their rational remains the same, in order for lives to be saved and suffering to be brought to an end America must lose. Only through such a humiliating loss can America be convinced to give up its imperialistic expansionism.
Regardless of their misguided faux humanitarian emotions their actions remain treasonous and they should no more be considered patriots than Benedict Arnold was and to this day is.
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 11:05 AM
When the cat is away, the mice will play.
MB4 on October 9, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Well said ‘doriangrey’. Good piece!
countywolf on October 9, 2007 at 11:09 AM
I had thought that spite had a lot to do with it, Arnold was broke and Congress had turned down his expense reimbursement and was investigating him for corruption. He was especially bitter at Horatio Gates who villified him after the Saratoga Campaign, and at being turned down for promotions.
dedalus on October 9, 2007 at 11:46 AM
That is an understandable position considering the fierce animosity most historians have brought to the record of his deeds. However I believe when one removes the personal opinions of historians the record actually suggest otherwise.
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 12:06 PM
I have long since past the point where it is possibly for me to loath the MSM any more than I already do. In fact I can no longer even view them as misguided but well intending useful idiots. Their intentions have in my opinion be become indiscernible in difference from those of Benedict Arnold.
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 11:05 AM
It is my intent, that when they hang Pinch Sulzberger and his editorial staff, and the news editors at CBSNBCABCCNN for treason for leaking damaging national intelligence secrets, to have applied for the popcorn concession for their execution.
Okay, that was a joke.
But until they start making arrests and prosecuting the editors, publishers, and reporters who are trying to sabotage the war through mal-reporting, this will go on.
There is case law, even two US Supreme Court cases dealing with the behavior of people trying to sabotage the country while it is at war. There is a standard (of a sort) for prosecuting people who are trying to undermine the nation while it is at war.
Both prosecutions were for activities during WWI. The successful prosecution was Schenk v. US, 249 US 47, 52 (1919), who was convicted of printing and distributing pamphlets to draftees urging them to refuse to go. I’ve supplied this citation before, but the point remains:
“When a nation is at war many thing which might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its efforts that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight and no court could regard them as protected by any Constitutional right.” [Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Schenk v. US, 249 US 47, 52 (1919)]
Three days before Pearl Harbor, the Chicago Tribune, a feverent FDR hater, obtained and published the Army’s secret plan for fighting Hitler if the USA ever went to war with Hitler. The data was classified and was leaked to the Trib by someone in the War Department, just like the New York Times was leaked the electronic eavesdropping and tracking program.
Four days later America WAS at war with Germany (12/8/1941), and the published plan became the genisis of how we actually defeated the Germans in Europe.
J. Edgar Hoover was on the verge of arresting the publisher and editorial staff of the Tribune (and they knew it), but was ordered not to by the Attorney General (or perhaps FDR himself). But the Tribune, after war was declared became VERY GOOD BOYS as far as the war effort was concerned.
The Espionage Act is on the books. The media is NOT IMMUNE from their actions. The sooner we make an example, the better. We should have put Sulzberger and Kellor in jail for publishing classified material that was illegally obtained, and let them spend Pinch’s millions in lawyer’s fees trying to dig their way out of a 10 year prison term.
We still can, the statute of limitation has another 3 years+ to go. I hope we do.
georgej on October 9, 2007 at 12:13 PM
“I know which one I believe.”
Yup.
Dusty on October 9, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Thanks for the post Dorian–an informative read.
dedalus on October 9, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Hear hear. Appreciate your comments always.
JiangxiDad on October 9, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Hear hear. Appreciate your comments always.
JiangxiDad on October 9, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Thanks!
georgej on October 9, 2007 at 1:02 PM
I sure would like to be a fly on his wall when Mr. Phelps gets around to reading the comments section to his “report” on Basra in chaos, the blogosphere has put a big ol’ stake in his heart… LOL!
Texas Gal on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Hear! Hear! Hear!
(as I clean my monitor… ;) )
Texas Gal on October 9, 2007 at 1:29 PM
I’m angling for the beer concession myself…
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Woo Hoo!!
Basra is doing well AND another false media outlet discredited!!
This is worth a JIG!!!!!
allrsn on October 9, 2007 at 2:02 PM
As soon as I read that the story was written by Tim Phelps a huge bell starting ringing in my head. Tim Phelps was a neighbor of mine up until about 1999 when he took the job for Newsday as their foreign head or some such and moved to D.C. I heard him and his wife speak at a small League of Women Voters get together in about 1998. I could not believe what nutcases the two of them were… And this was during the Clinton go-go stock market years where EVERYONE was rich and the world was a happy place! Even back then the U.S. was evil imperialists in their minds and terrible injustices were being committed every day by evil Americans.
True lunatics.
Babs on October 9, 2007 at 2:20 PM
After reading through comments and challenges on Confederate Yankeee, I don’t exactly feel like doing a victory dance. Man, that is one contentious thread. It makes Allah’s Atheists v Christians lionfest look like a spring garden party.
Yon getting blasted by guys with Jughead marine nicknames? WTF? I would be quite cautious before feeling all warm and fuzzy about the Good News.
Jaibones on October 11, 2007 at 9:24 PM
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