Hillary’s grand giveaway continues
posted at 1:05 pm on October 9, 2007 by Michelle
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Why do I think of Oprah Winfrey (Everybody gets a car! Everybody gets a car!) whenever I read the latest Hillarycare scheme? Universal health care. Universal baby cash. Now, universal 401K plans!
Every citizen could get a 401(k) retirement account and up to $1,000 in annual matching funds from the government under a plan offered Tuesday by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.
At a cost of $20 billion-$25 billion a year, the plan is Clinton’s largest domestic proposal other than her plan for universal health insurance. The New York senator said it would be paid for by taxing estates worth more than $7 million per couple and would help narrow the gap between the rich and those who don’t have enough savings for retirement…
… Clinton said less than half the families in the United States have retirement savings accounts and those who have them aren’t saving enough. She said she often meets people working even into their early 80s because they don’t have enough savings.
“We don’t have much of a nest egg to fall back on,” she said.
“We?”
Next up: Hillary’s universal iphone plan.
I’ve got a few friends I’d like to sign up for that.
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I heard they’re going to use the music from “The Price is Right” and “Press your Luck” at the Democratic National Convention
Defector01 on October 9, 2007 at 1:06 PM
I just can’t figure out why I am astonished by this? The sheer audacity of this woman… But then why would she waste her time trying to come up with a policy to fix Social Security when she can just create a new entitlement. I feel like I am in one of those nightmares where you’re trying to scream, but can’t.
D2Boston on October 9, 2007 at 1:08 PM
Michelle are you trying to be funny, on a serious subject?!
Mcguyver on October 9, 2007 at 1:09 PM
The Universal iPhone plan may not be so far fetched. Remember Michagan proposing to give every child in the state an iPod? They’re capable of such idiocy.
mugged on October 9, 2007 at 1:09 PM
Yeah, but they should use the version where the contestant loses a game…the one with the trombone sliding down at the end.
James on October 9, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Which part of the US Constitution gives authority for that?
pedestrian on October 9, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Awesome. I wonder if I can roll over all of my social security contributions to date?
I mean this is great, now I can stop saving and go out and buy a huge plasma television, a house I can’t afford, a new car every 2 years. Dang, I can eat take out every day, buy more booze, maybe take up smoking, buy an XBox 360 and a new game every week, and vacation in Disneyworld every year. Saving money is for chumps!
I’m going to go out and max all my credit cards, too. I’m sure the government will come up with a better fix than bankrupcy offers.
reaganaut on October 9, 2007 at 1:11 PM
I hope she stops before she keeps giving away dinner dates with bill to young women
William Amos on October 9, 2007 at 1:12 PM
Jumped the shark? This has got to be pretty transparent to everyone. Even the MSM made fun of her 5000 baby gift.
And her pic. on Drudge right now where she isdressed as a witch is also transparent. She was told she’s perceived as a witch, so she dresses as one to “prove” she’s able to laugh at herself, and that she’s just a barrel of laughs.
JiangxiDad on October 9, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Nobody cares about that anymore…look! Britney’s lost her babies!
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:13 PM
That’s great! Now Allah will be campaigning for that socialist (fill in the blank)…
Zorro on October 9, 2007 at 1:14 PM
When I was a little kid I wish I had as many games for my Atari 2600 as the other kids.
GogglesPisano on October 9, 2007 at 1:15 PM
How about Universal Dinnerware to serve that “Chicken in Every Pot” on!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on October 9, 2007 at 1:16 PM
:Waving hand:
I have a question…. how is this different than that evil “privatizing” scheme that the Incompetent, corrupt, jack-booted babykilling stupid evil President Bush wanted to do?
Oh, maybe because she wants to take care of people instead of helping Wall Street?
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Heh, it’ll never happen, sorry Allah!
Anyway, its stunning, Glacier’s literally trying to buy the election on the taxpayer’s dime. Sad part is I think it could work.
Bad Candy on October 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM
I think everyone needs an old ABA red, white and blue basketball. That would be cool.
GogglesPisano on October 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Socialism. Communism.
The new spoke to the political wheel: Clintonianism
madmonkphotog on October 9, 2007 at 1:20 PM
Bad: Partial privatization of Social Security (anybody remember that from early on in the Bush administration?)
Good: Universal 401K (that rich people pay for; hey, they won’t miss it, right?)
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 9, 2007 at 1:20 PM
OK, now here’s a radical idea: Simply reduce each person’s federal tax burden by $1000 per year and let them do what they want with it.
reine.de.tout on October 9, 2007 at 1:20 PM
How about a ‘pocket pussy’ for all under-21 males to curb unwanted pregnancy?
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:21 PM
$1000/yr? By the time I retire that would be around $30 grand plus interest. Yeah, I’ll be living large on that.
C’mon Hitlery, stop playing games and just come out and promise everyone a free pardon, an iPhone and $1000 cash if they vote for you.
Hollowpoint on October 9, 2007 at 1:21 PM
So basically the federal goverment is just a bottomless pit of money huh? If it comes from the federal goverment that only means it came from us first.
Me and Bill Gates were sitting around one day and we dicided to put our wallets into a pot and then we divided up everything. That is the basic premise right? Why should I work to succeed when it will be given to me, courtesy of those poor smucks who do decide to work hard.
Most people break the strings with “momma” by the time they are 21, but apparentely there are too many who just can’t leave mommie and stand on their own two feet.
Get a clue. Who is going to pay for this since the goverment does not produce any goods or products that generate revenue or profits that leaves it to them to tax the snot out of everybody.
Ass, grass, or gas, Nobody rides for free.
(Saw it on a bumper sticker somewhere)
LakeRuins on October 9, 2007 at 1:22 PM
What’s depressing is not that Hillary is advancing such a scheme, but the fact that there are millions of americans who think it is a good plan and are happy to accpet money taken from others at gunpoint. Is that what it means to be an American nowadays? I always thought Robin Hood was an evil character. Unfortunatly, it appears a lot of people don’t agree with me.
VolMagic on October 9, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Instead of “We nominate Hillary Clinton to run for president.”, they should get the guy from the Price is Right to announce; “Hillary Clinton, COME ON DOWN!!, you’ve been nominated to run for president!”
heh
_Jon on October 9, 2007 at 1:22 PM
A lot of the people who will benefit from this are not paying taxes anyway. After the standard deduction, which effectively refunds every dime of tax that was withheld during the year, they also get the child savings plan, this little gem, and they are also eligible for the Earned Income Credit and other freebie perks. The earned income credit gives them money they never even paid in. A family that makes less than 30K per year with one child will get $630. Add kids or lower the income and it gets higher to a max of $1400 for one kid. (I think)
This is socialism disguised as rights guaranteed by the constitution.
csdeven on October 9, 2007 at 1:23 PM
I mean, really! We should give $1000 per person to the gov’t, and then the gov’t can give it back to us? Does this make sense to anyone but Hillary?
reine.de.tout on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
No…being American still means what it has always classically meant.
It’s just that the vast majority of people calling themselves “American”, aren’t…they just happen to live here.
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
She’s a veritable Robin Hood. Our guys better have some good answers for what I fear is a tempting offer to the average American. Answers like: “it’ll put the economy in the crapper”, “‘rich’ people are the ones who are employing you, let’s encourage them to grow rather than penalizing them”….
jdpaz on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
You were lucky…I was stuck with a Magnavox game console.
(”I complained because I had no games for my Atari, until I met a boy who had no Atari at all.”)
James on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Ding, ding, ding! You win the bad-taste award for the day.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 9, 2007 at 1:26 PM
That will be rolled out in her Socialized Dating program. In order to receive the new entitlements and all government benefits and services, citizens will be required to interact socially with an ethnically and economically diverse group of prospective mates of both genders. Surplus computers from local DMVs will arrange the hook ups.
Dennis Kucinich benefited from a similar pilot program in the UK.
rw on October 9, 2007 at 1:26 PM
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Unfortunately they get a vote too.
Even the illegals.
VolMagic on October 9, 2007 at 1:27 PM
WHy in the world would any wealthy perso want to live in this cuontry when they will have to bank roll it? They would probaly have Dubai build them an island in international waters and say “screw you Hilary”
Why in the name of all that is holy do the democrats want to panalize hard work? Why would anyone want to work and get ahead when either
a) they loose all that they work for in taxes to pay the slothfull
or b)
they are heavily penalised for NOT being parasites?
Wyrd on October 9, 2007 at 1:27 PM
You’re not supposed to eat them…
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:27 PM
It’s the same old stale Democrat play book which hasn’t changed in 50 years. Rollout the entitlements for the children, the sick and the elderly. Tax the hardworking successful citizens who have saved for a rainy day and hand it out to the clueless citizens who can’t plan anything past lunchtime or save for anything other than next week’s lottery tickets.
Boo friggin Hoo.
What’s next, Universal Puppy Care?
fogw on October 9, 2007 at 1:28 PM
O/T
Meanwhile, the government budget office just reported that the deficit will be reduced by 35% this year. Why? Bush’s tax cuts.
csdeven on October 9, 2007 at 1:28 PM
Exactly!!! Don’t you see? After she gets done taxing the stuffing out of us, we’ll have no funds left to put into the plan for the Government to match. So the program will be revenue neutral! Bullcrap In! HotAir out!!!!!!!!!
Next, she’ll offer 50% interest on the money we don’t have nor will we ever get!
By god! This has to be the best Ponzi scheme since Social Security.
Brilliant!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on October 9, 2007 at 1:28 PM
Just afraid to read that its made by popeils
William Amos on October 9, 2007 at 1:28 PM
Very unfortunate indeed…the Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves
Democracy is a dirty word, now as it was then.
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:29 PM
What happens when they start redistributing things that no one wants? What happens when a big dump truck starts piling up a bunch of old K-Tel records on your doorstep?
GogglesPisano on October 9, 2007 at 1:31 PM
That’s just crazy talk.
Are you suggesting that the money you earn doesn’t belong to the government, who should redistribute it as they see fit? Heck, you’re lucky they let you keep any of it seeing as how you’ll just waste it on things you don’t need anyways while supporing the corrupt capitalist economy.
Besides, what about the poor who don’t pay taxes? They wouldn’t get a tax break! And you know who else doesn’t pay taxes? Children. Children and puppies. So why do you want to exclude the poor, The Children, and puppies from Hillary’s grand scheme to give us free money? What did the poor, The Children, and puppies ever do to you to earn such hatred and scorn you puppy-hating meanie?
Hollowpoint on October 9, 2007 at 1:32 PM
There’s a very ant/grasshopper-like dynamic going on here, don’t you think?
James on October 9, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Oh, maybe because she wants to take care of people instead of helping Wall Street?
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Geez you’re dense.
1. Her plan gives other taxpayer’s money to the fools unable to support themselves and their family and in turn let’s Wall Street invest and accrue interest for their future.
2. GWB’s plan takes the taxpayer’s money and lets them voluntarily elect to invest [their own money] at a much higher interest rate for their future.
IF THESE TWO PLANS SEEM THE SAME TO YOU THEN YOU’RE MUCH TO IGNORANT TO HELP YOURSELF AND YOU’LL NEED HER ENTITLEMENTS.
Griz on October 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Oh the humanities, that will just never do…Quick lets spend more of the publics money before anyone notices that the deficit is being reduced…
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Does the Alternative Minimum Tax ring any bells.
And an explanation of how it started.
LakeRuins on October 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Who is good at photo shop? We need a picture for these topics that has Hillarys head on Santa’s body.
csdeven on October 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
You people are sick in the head
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Please don’t feed the trolls…
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 1:35 PM
You make K-Tel lemonade.
Griz on October 9, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Say that three times fast
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Is it possible that Hillary has been tipped off to this report and has the money burning a hole in her pocket?
csdeven on October 9, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Let’s see…
Maybe that will help.
Slublog on October 9, 2007 at 1:37 PM
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 1:17 PM
There are no stupid questions. Just stupid people who ask questions
VolMagic on October 9, 2007 at 1:37 PM
AP just slipped over to the dark side.
conservnut on October 9, 2007 at 1:38 PM
All you evil Repulicans want to take away $5000 from babies. Have you no shame? Now you’re taking away $1000 from every retiree, so they have to work 80 hrs a week until they die.
pedestrian on October 9, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Well, that does it. I’m quitting my job in January of 2009. Simply doesn’t pay to work anymore. It’ll be much more lucrative to be a ward of the government, and a lot easier on the ol’ back, too.
aero on October 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Oh goody a nationalized Christmas club, the Christmas of course is for the same liberals who raid our Social Security fund for special ‘good intentioned’ projects.
Since we all know that this would be a government run faux 401K the pin number to transfer funds will belong to Congress and anyone who thinks the bank account will be safe needs to purchase some beachfront in Missouri.
Just another quest for steal some more liberal money grab.
Speakup on October 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM
I thought they were employees?
To have a 401(K) plan by the government, does that mean you have to be employed by the government? If so, then do we still qualify for the government pension?
Kini on October 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM
The force is strong in this one … the socialistic force to control, not the progressive one to free, I mean.
Dusty on October 9, 2007 at 1:44 PM
I always wondered why these socialists don’t like to privatize things…after all, if what they are suggesting is so right and noble, then surely we’ll all merrily chip in to a private fund for the ‘less fortunate’…right?
Or perhaps they’re concerned that, if given a free choice, we’ll say “F that”…in which case, how good and noble is it to then steal the money under armed duress?
Or as the great and wise Bill Clinton once confessed, maybe they’re concerned we won’t ’spend our money right’, and we need them to spend it for us.
Of course the above considerations are not serious…I know the answer…they’re quinessential fascists.
Personally, I believe that if welfare was totally privatized, people would contribute locally, and the incentive would be much stronger for recipients to get themselves back on their feet asap.
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:47 PM
Now that Hillary has a lock on the presidency, she’s already getting a god complex. Having never held a position of real responsibilty, she has no concept of practical reality. We are still over a year away from the election. Her hallucinations could get really interesting.
pedestrian on October 9, 2007 at 1:47 PM
DonutsTaxing the rich, is there anything they can’t do?BohicaTwentyTwo on October 9, 2007 at 1:48 PM
Retroactively abort themselves?
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Actually, we shouldn’t be surprised at this…Ponzi schemes helped her raise campaign money, why wouldn’t she think they’d work at the Federal level?
James on October 9, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Heck, why? She can go for the Lamborghini plan…no, she can’t; who’d she tax then? No problem, of the few very rich about half already vote for her, and the other half can be punished by overtaxing. It’s a clusterfest all the way.
Entelechy on October 9, 2007 at 1:52 PM
I’m waiting for the Universal Mansion Plan. Every American gets a mansion worth at least $1,000,000.00 and we only have to pay what we can afford.
Or better yet…The government builds us all “government housing” and everyone has their homes torn down including the rich! Then we all live in one big happy “village”
And then the government builds us all the same cars to drive…all the same color of course…and the government determines what we shall wear and where each of us shall work and who we shall marry and how many children we shall have…hey they are paying for our health care so why not!
sabbott on October 9, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Hiliary Clinton, super genius (tweeeet!) I like the way that rolls out. Hiliary Clinton, suuuuper genius (TWEEEEEEET! CRASH! BOOM!)
steveegg on October 9, 2007 at 1:54 PM
I could use a new set of tires on the car.
(Hey, I’m easy)
infidel4life on October 9, 2007 at 1:55 PM
WOW…I’m just waiting for Hillary to announce that all the drinking fountains in Washington will have Chocolate Milk if she wins!!
philgress on October 9, 2007 at 1:55 PM
hmm, perhaps I wasn’t as obvious as I thought with my sarcasm?
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Hillary and EUroCrack.
What a combo.
What next?
normsrevenge on October 9, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Vote for me, and all your wildest dreams will come true
[/napoleon dynamite]
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Hey Hillary,
Every citizen deserves a house and a car, too. Don’t forget those. They are even more important than retirement. After all, shelter is a basic need and transportation to and from work is necessary also. Especially if there is no public transportation available, like in many rural areas.
Troy Rasmussen on October 9, 2007 at 1:58 PM
I’m thinking about loading up my shot gun and going down to a bank and taking what isn’t mine! When I get arrested and taken to court, my defense is going to be that I’m just doing what the Federal Government does every second of every minute of every day of every year to it’s people!
John Adams is going rise from the grave and he’s going to kick somebody’s ass!
sabbott on October 9, 2007 at 1:58 PM
I doubt it, more likely she just believes that she can buy the office of POTUS if she promises to give everyone who votes for her a thousand bucks or more.
doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Couldn’t the Federal Government just give each American 1,000,000 dollars and go away? I’d be happy with that…
sabbott on October 9, 2007 at 2:00 PM
That would only be $250trillion by the way! Surely we can afford that!
sabbott on October 9, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Did you have your pinky raised to your lip as you said that?
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 2:05 PM
[philgress on October 9, 2007 at 1:55 PM]
You know that is silly, I am surprised at you. Chocolate Milk is not healthy and penalties for unrestricted intake will apply per US Code 666-666, Universal Clinton Health Law; Section I – Criminal Violations, Article 75,905, Paragraph aaaa) Beverages; (852) Chocolate Milk.
Dusty on October 9, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Shrillary’s cabinet:
Treasury: Hsu
DHS: Burglar
Defense: Hussein
State: Kos
Justice: Sharpton
Health: Edward$
pedestrian on October 9, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Wow… how… prophetic.
Romeo13 on October 9, 2007 at 2:19 PM
How about this:
Just print some new money and mail it to everyone. +/- 300 million people x $10,000,000 each = $3,000,000,000,000,000 (3 quadrillion or $3 million-billion. We’d probably need to issue million-dollar bills, otherwise we’d run out of trees.
Don’t like that idea? Ok, just raise the minimum wage to $1000/hour. No more poor people!
Yea.
peski on October 9, 2007 at 2:19 PM
I’m with Walter E. Williams and Ayn Rand on this one. Government redistribution programs are nothing more than outright theft, plain and simple. Legislated, publicly-sanctioned theft. Voting yourself money from your neighbor’s pocket is just morally wrong and economically unsound. Wish more people understood that. I hope some of the Republican candidates start using that terminology–government redistribution is THEFT. Maybe it will get through to some voters. Probably not, but I wish they’d at least try.
aero on October 9, 2007 at 2:22 PM
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Sorry, my mistake, you sounded just like one of them… pink somethingorothers…
Griz on October 9, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Heh. Why doesn’t she just have someone sing Big Rock Candy mountain at every campaign stop!
Pilgrim on October 9, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Forget the slippery slope. Her Thighness just wants to push everybody into a free-fall to socialism. But it’s okay……..it’s for the children.
Mallard T. Drake on October 9, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Ayn Rand said in 1959 in an interview with Mike Wallace (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3) that she predicted dictatorship for the United States if the current (in 1959) trends toward socialist economic policies continued.
aero on October 9, 2007 at 2:28 PM
LOL My favorite line :-)
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Romeo13 on October 9, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Ayn Rand said in 1959 in an interview with Mike Wallace (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3) that she predicted dictatorship for the United States if the current (in 1959) trends toward socialist economic policies continued.
aero on October 9, 2007 at 2:28 PM
She was obviously dead on.
Griz on October 9, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Great find! Tip o’the hat to ya!
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Don’t forget the most important thing needed for retirement: A widescreen TV! The government has been overlooking American’s need for high definition entertainment for far too long.
Also, kids these days need Nikes.
Blacklake on October 9, 2007 at 2:32 PM
none taken, Griz
JamesLee on October 9, 2007 at 2:33 PM
By the way, any of you “I’m-voting-third-party-if-Rudy-gets-the-nomination” people thinking twice about that logic yet? How much more of your money does Hillary have to propose to steal and give to other people before you decide that a proven tax-cutter is in fact better than a proven socialist? How many economy-crushing entitlements does she have to shower on the masses at your expense before you decide that Rudy really might not be that bad?
I’m not trying to get anyone to vote for Rudy in the primary who doesn’t want to. Just asking people who are threatening to vote third party if he gets the nomination to really think that through. You can’t undo socialist programs once they’re in place. You can’t EVER undo them. Rudy might be socially liberal, but he’s not a socialist!
aero on October 9, 2007 at 2:36 PM
Ooooh…I think approx 500 rounds of .45 ACP should do the trick ;-)
Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 2:39 PM
Oh Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
Oh Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a health care plan?
Dialing For Drugs is trying to find me.
I wait for a doctor each day until three,
So Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a health care plan ?
Oh Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a retirement on the town ?
I’m counting on you, Hillary of Rodham, please don’t let me down.
Prove that you’ll take care of me and buy my next mutual fund,
Oh Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a free 401k ?
Everybody!
Oh Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Hillary of Rodham, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
That’s it!
- JJ
MB4 on October 9, 2007 at 2:39 PM
[Pilgrim on October 9, 2007 at 2:24 PM]
Ya know, my siblings an I accompanied Mitch Miller with that song when we were kids until we wore the record out and I never realized what the song was about until just now. It was just a great tune … and clearly, just like Hillary’s is now for many.
Dusty on October 9, 2007 at 2:40 PM
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