I can’t think of a state that still allows you to buy a gun and get it same day, in CT it was two weeks and I just moved to SC and I was told it was the same.

But I guess the Brady people say there isn’t, I should call the locals and make sure. I guess I’ll loose my Libertarain cred when saying I don’t think waiting periods are such a bad idea.

Sorry to think this out in the comments.

Brandenburg

Current federal regulations on guns

…many times it has to do with public safety or security…You might disagree…

Nope, as dorien and I have stated…if there is sound reason to provide probable cause that I am a danger to the public or national security in general, fine…go ahead and investigate/prosecute.

I object to the de facto assumption that possession of certain items equates to guilt, that’s all.

It wasn’t that long ago that anyone (even kids) could buy guns & explosives over the counter with no checks…and no mayhem

Absolutely.

Now…I’ve got a couple acres of serious rock I need to blow up…how about it?

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 2:07 PM

Er ummm, well I was a supervisor of a demolitions company, I used to be allowed to blow things up… ;)

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Actually, there is case law on the matter. It has nothing to do with common sense, many times it has to do with public safety or security an an over-riding factor. You might disagree, but depending on the argument, precedent is not with you.

doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 2:04 PM

Absolutely.

Now…I’ve got a couple acres of serious rock I need to blow up…how about it?

Sure, if there is credible reasoning behind a claim of ‘probable cause’ then of course we have to take action to secure ourselves.

But let’s not fall into a sheeplike acceptance of ‘imputing motive’.

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 1:18 PM

Oh sure I agree, no need to be searching every person who reloads their own ammo’s house just because they have certain materials laying (so to speak) around. However should a genuine justifiable case of probable cause result in said search and such sundries as afore mentioned be discovered, the individual in question does need to be exposed to some very serious questions.

Yup. They were just two innocent lads, probably just looking for a White Castle

HA! God I don’t miss that food.

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 12:47 PM

In my area it’s down to ammo and a few airguns only, no firearms anymore.

…then substantial questions are in order…

Sure, if there is credible reasoning behind a claim of ‘probable cause’ then of course we have to take action to secure ourselves.

But let’s not fall into a sheeplike acceptance of ‘imputing motive’.

Depends on what you call “bomb making equipment”. It’s not at all unusual for those of us who handload to have 10 pounds of smokeless powder on hand. Heck, for someone who loads multiple calibers and types of round (handgun, rifle, shotgun), 10 pounds would be considered a small amount; for an active shooter and handloader 30 pounds wouldn’t be out of the question at all.

Hollowpoint on October 9, 2007 at 1:04 PM

True, however once said individual starts throwing in such sundries as caps for threaded cast iron pipes with holes drilled in them fuses blasting caps cast iron threaded pipe with external scoring on them, then substantial questions are in order.

In other words, common sense…you own a gun, you own dozens of guns not a big deal…own the guns, some bomb making equipment, live in the basement of your parents home for 30 years, worried about the take over of the country, and you should be given the opportunity to “explain” yourself.

right2bright on October 9, 2007 at 12:54 PM

Depends on what you call “bomb making equipment”. It’s not at all unusual for those of us who handload to have 10 pounds of smokeless powder on hand. Heck, for someone who loads multiple calibers and types of round (handgun, rifle, shotgun), 10 pounds would be considered a small amount; for an active shooter and handloader 30 pounds wouldn’t be out of the question at all.

Do you think our ole buddy Chertoff can connect these dots?

On a brighter note, the USF Football iteam is ranked #5 in the nation, and is seriously considering changing their logo from “Bulls” to “Bombers”.

In other words, common sense…

Ah yes…Amendment 10.5

“The assertions of limitations upon government power shall not be construed to deny the possibility of arbitrary modification in accordance with common sense”

Puke

In other words, common sense…you own a gun, you own dozens of guns not a big deal…own the guns, some bomb making equipment, live in the basement of your parents home for 30 years, worried about the take over of the country, and you should be given the opportunity to “explain” yourself.

BTW…don’t know if anyone else can confirm this…but I’ve noticed that my local WalMarts have downplayed their gun section…there’s no “Sporting Goods” sign hanging from the roof. They’re still selling guns (no hanguns grrr) but they’re just not drawing attention to that section of the store…

???

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 12:47 PM

The closest one to me has been that way for some time now, likewise my local neighborhood K-Mart has theirs seriously downplayed. And yes my local neighborhood K-Mart still sells ammo and a small selection of rifles and shotguns.

“Can’t a brown man buy a gun around here?”

Where’s the Reverend Hi-jackson and the Reverend Shark-ton for these blatant civil rights abuses????

Wal-Mart: Doing their part to fight the jihad, one crappy customer service experience at a time.

DaveS on October 9, 2007 at 11:39 AM

LMAO!

???

doriangrey on October 9, 2007 at 12:41 PM

LOL…yes, I remember that story…perfect example!

Sometimes you’ll see private party guns

WTF? Do they come with disco lights and dry ice? Party!

tommylotto on October 9, 2007 at 11:32 AM

Troll speak.

I also think the ease of going to a gun show and walking away with a weapon is crazy.
BadgerHawk on October 9, 2007 at 12:17 PM

You’ve never been to a gun show, have you?

If you were to believe the media hype, you’d think that it was a free-for-all with no background checks, where laws don’t apply. It’s not true- buying a gun from a dealer at a gun show is no different or easier than buying one from a sporting goods store.

Sometimes you’ll see private party guns for sale by someone who’s selling one from their personal collection, but I’m talking maybe a couple guns in a room full of hundreds. Still, if you were looking to avoid background checks, it would be much easier to find what you’re looking for in the newspaper classifieds than to show up at a gun show and hope that one of the few (if any) privately sold guns is what you’re looking for.

Me too…you’ll get your ass shot, for starters

Ochlan on October 9, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Heh heh heh this comes to mind……..

I do suspect that you are enjoying that more than is *cough* necessary healthy *cough*…

It’s my second most favorite form of exercise for my right arm ;-)

OK…some [slightly] more serious comments…

The second amendent, just like the first, has to have some obvious limitations to it.

And where are these ‘obvious’ limitations defined in the constitution? Or is this just your opinion…in which case, how much constitutionally overriding authority do you think your opinion has?

You can’t shout ‘fire’ in a movie theater,

What if there’s a fire?

you can’t incite violence.

What if I need to encourage others to bear arms and overthrow gubmint?

You can’t own armor piercing rounds,

What if I need to pierce armor? Those gubmint agents have some hard shells…

you can’t own explosives.

What if I need to blow something up?

I also think the ease of going to a gun show and walking away with a weapon is crazy

Me too…you’ll get your ass shot, for starters