Nice!…

Just think of hearing, “Madam President” and cringe.

I believe this IS csdeven’s job. Although he’s yet to answer that question for some odd reason.

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 8:01 PM

I think csd admitted he was a “house husband” in another thread.

…If Fred is the nominee, you will see in me the biggest Fred groupie ever. The issue is the primary I will do every thing I can to vet the facts about every single candidate.

…

csdeven on October 8, 2007 at 5:54 PM

Single malt Glen Morangie has that effect on some folks. :)

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

On the second amendment, he recognizes the individual right to bear arms as set forth in the Constitution. However that right is subject to reasonable restrictions. It cannot be taken away, but it can be restricted — reasonably. What is reasonable depends on the locale. In NYC with rampant crime and murder, the reasonable restrictions will be more severe than Texas. As mayor, he had a job to do and he did it. He may ruffle feathers but he gets the job done. That is the type of results oriented leader we could use.

tommylotto on October 8, 2007 at 5:41 PM

Let’s see… It is ok to violate the constitution in NTC, but not in Texas? Glad I live in the latter, and not the former.

I can only assume that it is an attempt to discredit the message since they have been unable to mount an argument that will defeat my superior knowledge on the subject.

Now, if you are stupid enough to rise up to the bold text part of that comment, you are as big a fool as they are.

csdeven on October 8, 2007 at 4:54 PM

“It takes two fools to have an argument.”

Thanks, BNCurtis and Ochlan, for making this thread entertaining! Usually, when csdeven starts up his anti-Fred foaming-at-the-mouth repetitive ranting, I just leave the thread in irritation and disgust. But you guys kept me laughing. I love how he just completely ignored the by-play, except for feeding you that three-in-one (which I think was a tacit acknowledgment of your little game and an attempt to mess you up by exceeding five, but you recovered beautifully!).

Again, thanks for bringing a little lightheartedness to an otherwise boringly familiar “discussion.”

aero on October 8, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Yep, this was very entertaining. But y’all need to lay off cs a little bit. He bet a bottle of good single malt that Fred wouldn’t win the nomination. I’d hate to see him really lose it before he paid up.

Who else here wants to see a debate between Fred! and csdeven?

MadisonConservative on October 8, 2007 at 2:03 PM

I’d pay money to see that. Maybe we could get Rudy on the side dressed as a cheerleader, too.

Oh well, I guess if you’re forceful enough it doesn’t matter how wrong you are.

Big S on October 8, 2007 at 1:32 PM

Sounds like you are speaking about the Hildabeast.

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 8:28 PM

You’re and idiot. Bye bye.

tommylotto on October 8, 2007 at 8:36 PM

And you’re a lawyer who makes a living suing people, Gregor wins by default.

Jeeze you are a whining little baby.

csdeven on October 8, 2007 at 10:09 PM

Irony……..it’s whats for dinner, oddly enough it tastes just like crow.

Hollowpoint on October 8, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Jeeze you are a whining little baby.

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 7:59 PM

Bwahahahahaha!!!! Keep digging that hole deeper.

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 7:53 PM

OK, so you’re a fan of guilt by association. Well, I’m a fan of guilt by actually doing and that gives Rudy the edge over that lying fake scumbag lobbyist Fred.

tommylotto on October 8, 2007 at 8:36 PM

Thank you. Like I said before … that’s a compliment, coming from you.

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 8:28 PM

You’re and idiot. Bye bye.

Okay now you are showing yourself to be a true idiot. They are all subject to reasonable restrictions you dufus.

tommylotto on October 8, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Thank you Tommy. Coming from you after that comment, I’ll take that as one Hell of a compliment.

Of course, it’s up to Rudy Giuliani to be able to tell us what all of those “reasonable restrictions” to the Constitution would look like. Unfortunately, we’ve already seen that his “restrictions” are defined as “completely remove.”

Good for you for deciding all by yourself that the Constitution was written to allow individuals to place “restrictions” as they see fit. I wonder, in your mind, what value the Constitution has at all with this interpretation.

And there you go, for all you who claim that Rudy is all for naming strict constructionist judges … Tommylotto says that Rudy has the right to place restrictions on the Constitution.

Hmmmm

No, you are not listening (or reading). I have explained. Lobbying is a specific activity. Rudy never did that activity. End. Of. Story. You. Lose.

tommylotto on October 8, 2007 at 7:52 PM

LOL! OMG! I can’t stop laughing! Please stop! My side is killing me! ROFL!

Bracewell & Giuliani

Yep. Giuliani is one of only TWO named partners, yet … you actually believe he has nothing to do with the firm’s lobbying activities.

Priceless.

Try reading the Constitution again. There is no section in the 2nd Amendment that reads … “That right is subject to reasonable restrictions.”

Gregor on October 8, 2007 at 7:39 PM

Okay now you are showing yourself to be a true idiot. They are all subject to reasonable restrictions you dufus.

Some say the language found in the amendment itself is a restriction: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State…” Thus, it could be argued that the individual’s right to bear arms only exists in the context of a well regulated militia. Rudy however, does not buy that and agrees with you that the individual has a right separate from regulated militias. Nevertheless, just like you can’t scream fire in a crowded theater or incite violent jihad in a mosque, you cannot bear a stinger missle in a flight path or carry suitcase nukes into NYC.

Don’t you people have JOBS?
Harpazo on October 8, 2007 at 6:58 PM

Yes, but the work release program set me up with a job in the local library. Sweet deal all around!