Religious right fracturing over Rudy?

posted at 8:02 pm on October 7, 2007 by Allahpundit

The Times seems to think so but they’re starting from a premise which I’m not sure is true — that religious voters ever were the “easy to command” monolith they’ve been cracked up to be.

If they were, they’re not anymore.

Evangelical Protestants make up about 26 percent of the population. But according to surveys in the new book “The Faith Factor” by John C. Green, a senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, that pie can be sliced even further. Only 12 percent of the population are the evangelical Protestants Mr. Green calls “traditionalists,” the political and theological conservatives who make up the bedrock of the religious right. Almost an equal share (11 percent of the population) are evangelical “centrists” and about 3 percent are “modernists,” groups that are politically less predictable…

[N]ew leaders [like Rick Warren and Richard Cizik] are pushing evangelicals to expand their agenda beyond abortion and homosexuality, to include issues like poverty, AIDS and global warming. Like other Americans, evangelicals tell pollsters they care a great deal about the war in Iraq, health care, immigration and security. If evangelicals more and more vote like average Americans, it becomes increasingly complex for the candidates to calculate how to win them over.

I’ll take their word for it re: that boldface part, but, er…


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This discussion isn’t about me, because I haven’t advocated anything. It’s about the destruction of our society that you libertarians are advocating because you can’t curb your apatite for drugs.

I have little appetite for drugs. I have less appetite for big government.

You want to change from the nanny state we have to the nanny state that allows you to take whatever drugs you want whenever you want and you hide behind the guise of being a libertarian. You don’t want to be responsible for your actions, yet you hide behind the demand for unlimited freedom.

I want less of a nanny state. I’m not hiding. It seems I’m posting my views in a public place.

The question you types refuse to answer is WHY should I have to pay for it? When you kill an innocent who should be responsible? ME?! I think not! You want to take drugs, then you must shoulder all the responsibility.

If you scroll up I think you’d find I’ve answered this specific point a couple of times. 1.) I think the cost savings in ratcheting down the war on drugs would result in a net-savings. 2.) In your hypothetical if I had to sign a waiver, similar to when I go skiing, where I accept all responsibility and forfeit everything for being an idiot, then so be it.

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Mcguyver on October 8, 2007 at 7:36 PM