Exactly true. Islam is a perversion of Judaism and Christianity. It is from hell as sure as darkness exists.

Never grant religious status to Islam in your mind.

Here’s how I view Islam. I really believe every word of this is true:

Islam is a philosophy and a way of life that allows a Muslim man to do whatever he wants, to whoever he wants, whenever he wants, as long as he can say it is defense of Islam. And everything is in defense of Islam.

BL@KBIRD on October 7, 2007 at 8:08 PM

I totally agree with you. Islam is the religion of perputual war and misery on earth.

Never grant religious status to Islam in your mind. Pity the slaves of Allah, they have to wear the black rags of Islam everyday and guess how best to serve the greatest deceiving hate filled god that was ever conjured up by a dark heart.

VinceP1974 on October 7, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Islam denies that Jesus is the son of God, yet chastises those who deny the signs from God even when they see them.

Does the Koran skip over Joseph, son of Jacob all the time? He was definitely a prophet, since he interpreted a dream that foretold the future of Jacob’s family and Egypt.

pedestrian on October 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Um, did you stop reading midsentence?

Noah before Abraham, then Abraham’s children Isaac and Jacob, and then after that David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Zechariah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Elijah, Ishmael, Elisha, Jonah, and Lot.

Noah before Abraham, then Abraham’s children Isaac and Jacob, and then after that David, Solomon, …

Does the Koran skip over Joseph, son of Jacob all the time? He was definitely a prophet, since he interpreted a dream that foretold the future of Jacob’s family and Egypt.

Connie on October 7, 2007 at 11:55 AM

Not sure what you mean

What is “nonsensical” about wondering where this insistence on Mono-God comes from in the human spirit?

Why insist that it MUST be “One”?

Other than for our own simplicity?

What would it matter if it were Two (Male/Female), since that is the course of most of Life? (And how could it “create” the Two (male and female), “in its own image”, otherwise?)

Why limit the Deity?

And why should it demand “Love”?

That is tyrannical, in itself.

Love is won, not ordered.

And, having read the Old Testament (Torah/Talmud), too much of the O.T.’s El is despotic and brutal.

Ask Job.

The taming of this idea of a cosmic tyrant is one of humanity’s greatest achievements.

Christ had a lot to do with it. (“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”, etc.)

Mohammad simply reversed things back to “Old Nobodaddy” (as Blake calls this dictatorial construct), the Celestial Humorless Warlord-in-Chief.

Islam is retrograde.

Judaism and Christianity progressed. (Cross-pollinating each other for the better, and for more a humane expression of their faith[s].)

Islam regressed.

Killing over this point.

Instead of humbly wondering.

Or are we not supposed to use the brain except as an echo chamber?

That’s too Islamic for my mind.

CrimsonFisted on October 7, 2007 at 12:55 PM

It’s why he could only get his way with a young girl of 9. Most women would make him feel small.

This fanatical insistence on “One” paves the way for earthly tyrants, since it sanctifies the concept.
profitsbeard on October 7, 2007 at 11:24 AM

What utter nonsense. I suppose the Jews’ fanatical insistence on “One” is also tyrannical? Of course, the Shema, which is a decalaration of G-ds’ oneness (Deuteronomy 6:4-9) is immediately followed by the command, “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.”

That’s what’s missing from Islam, the love. It’s the fanatical insistence on submission that’s the problem.

Tabari I:202
“There are people who consider predestination untrue. Then they consider the Qur’an untrue…. People merely carry out what is a foregone conclusion, decided by predestination and written down by the Pen.”
(The Pen in question is a reference to Sura 68.)

Bukhari :V4B55N549
Narrated Abdullah:

Allah’s Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, “(as regards your creation), every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for an other forty days, and then a piece of flesh for an other forty days. Then Allah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion). Then the soul is breathed into his body. So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise. Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) Fire and enters the (Hell) Fire.”

(I’m sure the first part of this is taught in all the good university level madrassa biology classes.)

Allah will “try you in the gifts He hath given you” (v.165). Muhammad explained this also: “Verily, this life is beautiful and green, and Allah made you dwell in it generation after generation so that He sees what you will do. Therefore, beware of this life and beware of women, for the first trial that the Children of Israel suffered from was with women.”

They completely missed the point on that one!

Beware of WOMEN? Great advice. Only if you are a complete and utter failure as a man. Yup, Mo ain’t no Alpha male.

Verses 142-144 forbid various pagan customs regarding the usage of animals.

How much worse can it be than it is now? IIRC, 1400 people in Turkey were killed or seriously injured performing these animal sacrifices.

Didn’t they get the message, along with plagiarizing the rest of the Bible, that since Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice, using animals were no longer necessary? Even if they don’t get Jesus and Christianity, surely that message came through?

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son.

VinceP1974 on October 7, 2007 at 10:07 AM

Verses 122-134 return to the perversity of the unbelievers who demand signs from Allah but wouldn’t believe even if they received them.

Does it strike you that something doesn’t quite jibe here?

Why is this obesssion with unity/oneness so important?

Other than as a mirror of an earthly despot who will not allow any co-rulers, advisors or threats to his absolute command and utter dominance?

This fanatical insistence on “One” paves the way for earthly tyrants, since it sanctifies the concept.

(Although it appears to be a rationalization of the earthly model of the Great King onto the Divine, then explained backwards as being the opposite influence.)

What would it hurt Muslims it “God” were Two?

Why fulminate and war over what may be a human misunderstanding of the numerical nature of the Divine?

Why a murderous monotheism?

006.125
YUSUFALI: Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.
PICKTHAL: And whomsoever it is Allah’s will to guide, He expandeth his bosom unto the Surrender, and whomsoever it is His Will to send astray, He maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer ascent. Thus Allah layeth ignominy upon those who believe not.
SHAKIR: Therefore (for) whomsoever Allah intends that He would guide him aright, He expands his breast for Islam, and (for) whomsoever He intends that He should cause him to err, He makes his breast strait and narrow as though he were ascending upwards; thus does Allah lay uncleanness on those who do not believe.

“Whether or not someone becomes a Muslim depends entirely upon whether Allah wills to lead him to Islam or to lead him astray ”

That’s clear as mud. So let me get this straight. Allah is in control of whether a Muslim believes in Him or not. So those who don’t believe are really those who Allah has passed his worst judgment on? And because that judgment comes from Allah in the first place, it absolves all Muslims from having to make any kind of judgment themselves? Therefore anyone who doesn’t believe, is automatically considered by Muslims to be one of Allah’s cast offs, rejects, or anything they want to call them God has already passed judgment, so they don’t have to?

V. 101 attempts a reductio ad absurdum on the Christian doctrine of the Incarnation: “How can He have a son when He hath no consort?” Ibn Kathir asks: “How can He have a wife from His creation who is suitable for His majesty, when there is none like Him How can He have a child? Then Verily, Allah is Glorified above having a son.” The idea that fatherhood and sonship might not be conceived of in physical terms is not considered.

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son.