Open thread: Atheist radio goes national at 7 p.m.!
posted at 6:33 pm on October 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
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According to the Wash Times and this press release, Freethought Radio will be simulcasting live on XM radio and WWRL in New York from 7 to 8 p.m. Among the guests: Christopher Hitchens, who’ll doubtless be primed to dump on all things godlike. The big A’s got the recorder queued up in case anything worth capturing gets said. Listen live over the web here and feel free to chime in below.
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End of times.
Nonfactor on October 6, 2007 at 6:34 PM
THE GOLDEN AGE BEGINS.
Allahpundit on October 6, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Today Atheist radio tomorrow the World!
Nonfactor on October 6, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Can we count on you to give us ratings updates Allahpundit?
Theworldisnotenough on October 6, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Just tune your receiver between stations and there’s atheist radio all of the time.
profitsbeard on October 6, 2007 at 6:39 PM
It looks like program w/o sponsors, eh? Free Public radio ?
I actually went to one of their meetings in Madison back in like 1974, they were a bit wacked all in all, but let them speak.
bbz123 on October 6, 2007 at 6:41 PM
They have their right to speak. Only if they start opposing the beliefs of the left will that right come under fire.
God I love being part of the intolerant right. lol
Kowboy on October 6, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Full of golden showers, no doubt.
Harpazo on October 6, 2007 at 6:46 PM
When do they have an on-air debate about the idea of the Greek thinker Parmedides who stated that: “nothing” is an inconceivable notion and therefore is an illegitimate concept for philosophical consideration?
Discuss.
Or are they going lowbrow?
“Atheist diet secrets“.
profitsbeard on October 6, 2007 at 6:48 PM
The long march of time; many, many people thinking many, many deep thoughts. And in the blink of an eye these dimwads figure it all out. wow.
dingbat on October 6, 2007 at 6:54 PM
Surely you see the inherent contradiction in that statement. Anyway, I’m glad that the existence of a radio program gives you encouragement.
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 6:55 PM
I wonder if Hitchens will mention anything about supporting Hirsi Ali in her fight/flight regarding the religion of peace?
And more importantly, if he would be willing to start up a fund to help her out?
Darnell Clayton on October 6, 2007 at 6:57 PM
So when they go 7/24, will they still have to have preachers on Sunday morning?
harrison on October 6, 2007 at 6:58 PM
In good cheer I write that
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 6:58 PM
How many times can you say “I don’t believe in God”? What can possibly be the topic of conversation, except trashing Christians and Jews? I don’t get what these people are railing about.
CrimsonFisted on October 6, 2007 at 7:02 PM
what’s the problem with an “atheist radio show”?
same problem with a “christian radio show”
BORING.
lorien1973 on October 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM
is this Air America?
why would we be giving them listeners?
I’m agnostic, when is someone going to start hating us damnit… I’m jealous
Kaptain Amerika on October 6, 2007 at 7:06 PM
Oh, you know. Atheist apple pie recipes. Fun winterfest shopping tips. Testimonies of atheist athletes, who, rather than pointing in the sky after scoring, simply shrug their shoulders as if to say, “who knows? Not me.”
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 7:07 PM
I feel the same way about agnostics as I do moderates.
MAKE UP YOUR D@MN MIND AND PICK A SIDE.
I can accept an opposing viewpoint, but wishy-washy people drive me bananas. !!!
:D
JayHaw Phrenzie on October 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
I hate you!
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Tuned in. Tuned out. Give us the highlights Allah, I’ll be listening to some music.
Darnell Clayton on October 6, 2007 at 7:09 PM
So this is Air America. Why would Hitchens appear here?
I’m surfing YouTube…bye.
Darnell Clayton on October 6, 2007 at 7:11 PM
And that would be the nail in the coffin. I’m sorry, but atheism has never struck me as anything but disdain for anyone of faith. 99% of the time, I enjoy what is posted on hotair.com, but this and the rest of the 1% is enough to tell me that I’ll get nothing out of this site. I guess I need to clean out my RSS feed anyway, so it is nice to get some motivation for it.
CR UVa on October 6, 2007 at 7:11 PM
finally… I feel much better now, I have meaning because I have someone to hate for hating me… lol
anyway on this show United Healthcare is evil… they deny every claim upfront and wait for you to resubmit the claim to even look at it.
Billary’s plan will just do the same thing. it will make everyone buy healthcare, you know the insurance companies are lving that…. the 47 million people that don’t have insurance will have too… she’s in bed with them more than bill I’m sure.
Kaptain Amerika on October 6, 2007 at 7:12 PM
I just hope nobody mentions Jerry Falwell’s or Mother Teresa’s names. The maliciousness with which Hitchens attacks them is shocking, and that mean-spiritedness does not instill any optimism in me that this will be any sort of Golden Moment, never mind herald in a new Golden Age.
I was heartened, albeit a bit puzzled, when in his tribute to Lt. Mark Daily, Hitchens said this:
I must not be very good at analyzing poetry from an Atheist’s perspective!
Buy Danish on October 6, 2007 at 7:13 PM
What does Hillary care have to do with atheism? Corporations are bad? Now I get it. Atheism IS Liberalism. This is just another version of Air America so far.
Guardian on October 6, 2007 at 7:15 PM
Just proves atheists need something to believe in.
Connie on October 6, 2007 at 7:16 PM
Well, they’ll be singing hymns, too:
THE ATHEIST SONG
We like to think we’re really smart;
Because we doubt more than Decartes.
We know there’s nothing there at all,
We live on bile and Geritol.
Those Jesus Freaks are all half-assed
O blessed Void so cold and vast.
see-dubya on October 6, 2007 at 7:19 PM
There it is! Booooosh. I’m done. Atheists {Liberals) can have at it.
Guardian on October 6, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Heh.
Double heh.
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 7:22 PM
AND Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HA Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
mjkazee on October 6, 2007 at 7:22 PM
I hope somebody does. Hitchens would be fine. Actually, I was hoping the Pope might offer her asylum in the Vatican, (although I doubt she would be able to continue to fight from there.)
JiangxiDad on October 6, 2007 at 7:24 PM
Bile and geritol is it! Did you write that?
Marxism and Atheism have historically gone hand in hand, so I can sorta see the connection. Also the Christian concept of teaching people to fish instead of giving them the fish comes to mind.
Buy Danish on October 6, 2007 at 7:24 PM
It’s nice to prescribe ancient proverbs to your religion, isn’t it?
Nonfactor on October 6, 2007 at 7:25 PM
No, but it is fun to ascribe them to it. Heh.
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Will this station be carrying the Cubs game?
JiangxiDad on October 6, 2007 at 7:29 PM
They’re only talking about health care. I’m so disappointed.
If you’re going to advertise as Atheist Radio, it should be all religion bashing all day. Start with the Anabaptists and go right through to the Zoroastrians. Then repeat.
NoSquids on October 6, 2007 at 7:29 PM
No, because from what I hear, to be a Cubs fan is eternal damnation.
Weight of Glory on October 6, 2007 at 7:30 PM
Atheist Radio sounds a lot like Air America.
Kevin M on October 6, 2007 at 7:31 PM
Free think Radio my god-fearing buttocks
Defector01 on October 6, 2007 at 7:33 PM
You’re right as they have kept the faith for 100 years.
JiangxiDad on October 6, 2007 at 7:35 PM
By the way, AP, let me know if anyone by the name of Pat Kelly calls in.
Connie on October 6, 2007 at 7:37 PM
AP, I am waiting for God to dump all things Hitchens. What a hopeless future you atheists face. No matter if there is an afterlife or not, you don’t get it. By choice.
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on October 6, 2007 at 7:44 PM
THE ATHEIST SONG VERSE II
By light of Reason’s cold blue flame,
We see the faithful are really lame.
Organized religion chafes so much,
And yet we need a similar crutch
Of faithless faith, and sermons too
On why we’re better than all of you!
I’m thinking the tune is something like “Little Brown Jug”.
see-dubya on October 6, 2007 at 7:49 PM
More hatred from the atheists.
Rose on October 6, 2007 at 7:51 PM
There’s nothing wishy-washy about agnosticism.
Read a dictionary.
Stephen M on October 6, 2007 at 7:59 PM
From Wikipedia
Sounds pretty much like moderates to me.
F15Mech on October 6, 2007 at 8:45 PM
Does it sound better in Spanish?
oldleprechaun on October 6, 2007 at 8:46 PM
Do you think they’ll get Christmas off?
madmonkphotog on October 6, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Agnostics may or may not, I am not really sure.
/sarcasm
F15Mech on October 6, 2007 at 8:54 PM
LOL –and at this whole thread too. You guys crack me up.
inviolet on October 6, 2007 at 8:55 PM
Faith based radio doesn’t have that big of a market share. And it’s going to be hard to duplicate the charm and beauty of the former standard bearer, Madalyn Murray O’Hair.
I think her show pulled in several dozen listeners.
Asher on October 6, 2007 at 8:59 PM
Those kind of distinctions would not be of interest to atheists, since they all require believing in something non-material. The atheist audience would be more interested on logical positivism, secular humanism, existentialism, and so on. One can hardly wait.
pedestrian on October 6, 2007 at 9:01 PM
(Announcer voice)…And never again in our lifetimes’! Get it while it’s hot! You thought Air American failed miserably? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
RightWinged on October 6, 2007 at 9:04 PM
The “Devout Atheists” of Berkeley meet in the local Unitarian Church. Ha.
JiangxiDad on October 6, 2007 at 9:11 PM
Most of the atheists I’ve heard over the years come across as mean spirited, bitter, condescending, harsh, overbearing and quite often just plain unpleasant, for the most part.
Seriously, a person’s world-view is often (note that: often, not always) a good indicator of whether or not they are people I wouldn’t mind hanging out with.
That being said, I don’t see a real bright future for Freethought Radio. Randi Rhodes would fit right in to FTR when Air Oblivious gives up.
least1 on October 6, 2007 at 9:34 PM
As long as they bash muslims as equally at Joos, Christians, buddhists, hindus, global warming-ist, etc. it’s cool with me.
SouthernGent on October 6, 2007 at 9:40 PM
Atheism is anti-thought. This station ‘ll never last.
Mojave Mark on October 6, 2007 at 9:46 PM
Nonfactor on October 6, 2007 at 7:25 PM
You’re right, I stand corrected, although Weight of Glory was correct to point out that it is “ascribe” not “prescribe”.
Buy Danish on October 6, 2007 at 9:54 PM
It’s 10pm and no update. So nothing interesting was said on the first show? Says a lot :D
lorien1973 on October 6, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Let me say as an atheist that the problem with atheist radio is that it is as boring as theism. No one would listen to a theist radio station. One listens to the radio station of a theist religion like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, or Walmart.* Atheist religions like Marxism, Libertarianism, Objectivism, radical environmentalism, NGOism, and perhaps Buddhism also can get big radio audiences.
That atheism is a thin gruel is no objection to atheism. One simply must add other elements. And the same has always been true for theism. Otherwise, Unitarianism wouldn’t just be outsized in his influence for its numbers, but one of the largest religious sects in America.
*Walmart reference purely for humor value.
thuja on October 6, 2007 at 10:13 PM
so what you’re saying is, if you don’t believe in God you don’t go to heaven or hell? you just cease to exist? so what you’re saying is that you get whatever afterlife you dream of during life? are you listening to yourself? that’s ridiculous…
this all breaks down to two questions that cannot be answered…
1. where did everything come from?
2. what was before that?
if you answer god to #1 then #2 bites you on the ass….
if you answer evolution and natural selection and scientific process then #2 bites you on the ass again.
so where does that leave us? with faith or admitting you don’t and cannot know… I’ll take “admitting I don’t know”, rather than taking the word of a bunch of guys writing on paper and wiping their asses with their hands…
Kaptain Amerika on October 6, 2007 at 10:14 PM
Well,somebody has faith,and believes,that this
radio show will work.haha
canopfor on October 6, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Atheists are arguably the most righteous people in the world. Belief in something outside yourself requires commitment; but SELF righteousness is, literally, its own reward.
Unfortunately, it’s also incredibly irritating and boring to everyone besides its practitioner. I give these guys about three weeks.
logis on October 6, 2007 at 10:22 PM
Someone mention SPAIN?
“And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.”
.
read it all, its a short one.
shooter on October 6, 2007 at 11:05 PM
Digg Radio lives!
John on October 6, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Atheist Radio Playlist:
12-6 a.m.- Morning With Nada Kumanitch.
8-9 a.m.- Drive Time with Zip Heddly.
9-11:59 a.m.- Open Line with Nul Voyd.
12 p.m.- Lunch Time with Nichevo Peach.
1-3 p.m.- Afternoon Chat with Dik Nix.
3-6 p.m.- Review of Non-News with Mel Blank.
6-11:59 a.m.- Dead Air with Aggie Nostisk
profitsbeard on October 6, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Atheists are arguably the most righteous people in the world.
logis
Well, the market was cornered on smarm so we had to pick something.
Krydor on October 6, 2007 at 11:27 PM
Hardly, and is this really anything new? Yes, it’s on radio now - how special. Yet atheism has been around for centuries and has never overtaken personal belief in a Supreme being. Have your new little radio show. I’m happy for you. It will soon aspire to the ratings Air America enjoyed.
thedecider on October 6, 2007 at 11:45 PM
JayHaw Phrenzie on October 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Feel as you wish, my friend. But spare me your bananas… do not mistake agnosticism for a lack of theological, cosmological thought or decision.
You make the mistake of thinking that because science can’t prove it, it isn’t so.
People believe in God as a matter of faith, since there’s no proof. And people believe there is no God as a matter of faith, since there’s no proof of that either. So there’s no proof of either proposition.
I can live with uncertainty. I say, I just CAN’T know. It’s an accommodation to the limitations of knowledge and inherent uncertainty of the human condition. Can you handle uncertainty?
petefrt on October 6, 2007 at 11:51 PM
Kaptain Amerika, you must be German. Did I mention any perceived afterline in my post? I was taught to read in the State of Washington during the 1950’s. They emphasized reading comprehension. What I was suggesting is, the life an atheist leads must be hopeless as there is no belief in an afterlife. The topic was hope, not the existance of an afterlife. See, it is not so difficult. Is it?
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on October 7, 2007 at 12:59 AM
Pardon me Kaptain, there was a typo in the preceeding post. What was written as “afterline” should have been “afterlife”. I would not want to twist that into some other meaning I did not intend.
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on October 7, 2007 at 1:08 AM
And…therein ends the open thread discussions for commentators the likes of sinner, dinner, loundry, foundry, the nosquids, the bubbasquids, and all other nonfactors.
My list has been updated.
Mcguyver on October 7, 2007 at 1:25 AM
I dont believe in atheist radio. i think atheists just imagine it because it makes them feel good.
Dash on October 7, 2007 at 7:31 AM
Atheist radio??
I don’t believe it.
locomotivebreath1901 on October 7, 2007 at 10:13 AM
God and His Good Book has given us the greatest gifts in life, the greatest country on earth, freedom, hope, and the opportunity to to give to others the gifts that our belief in God has bestowed on us.
Just what has atheism done for anyone? All it can do is promote fear, hopelessness, despair, doubt and bitterness.
Given the choices on beliefs, I cannot understand the reasoning of choosing the utter hopelessness of atheism.
To do so, one must first feel the total despair and hopelessness that can come only from self-loathing, the bases of all evil.
leanright on October 7, 2007 at 11:02 AM
End If
Asher on October 7, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Atheism the anti God religion.
Mojack420 on October 7, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Not so ridiculous, if you believe the most famous verse in the New Testament:
Does “perish” here mean simply physical death? That would be silly, wouldn’t it, since even Jesus experienced physical death. So “perish” must mean something else.
Likewise, a promise of everlasting life is silly if one believes that humans are born with an immortal spirit. This would be promising you something you already have, whether you fulfill your “end of the bargain” (belief in Jesus as the son of God) or not. And if you believe that you are going to be tormented in Hell forever if you die in sin, then you obviously believe that your spirit is immortal and therefore the promise in John 3:16 above is moot.
So “perish”, if I understand the passage (and the rest of my Bible) correctly, means to cease to exist, in the material world as well as the spiritual world (if we exist spiritually at all before we acknowledge God), just as you have deduced.
According to the passage, if you choose to believe that Jesus was the son of God, you will avoid oblivion and receive the gift of eternal life. As far as your other contention, that your afterlife will be whatever you wish it to be, I don’t personally believe that simply because my wildest earthly wishes can’t even come close to anything infinite.
angryoldfatman on October 7, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Or, one could argue:
Since God did not provide enough sound (beyond the reach of human corruption of the texts) evidence, or an organ of direct and common apprehension of Its own existence, It would naturally have more respect for someone who declared this hard truth, rather than for someone who merely bought whatever local belief system was around (Shinto, Jain, Aztec, etc.) about It merely because it was culturally advantageous or eternally reassuring.
Skepticism is thus more divine than belief.
And, given the mental apparatus we have, more honest.
I understand that kids need to be told comforting things.
It’s only decent.
But they grow up.
Then, they have to learn our limits.
profitsbeard on October 7, 2007 at 3:46 PM
And more hysterical whining from the “loving and compassionate” christians, who were brutally forced by atheists to listen to this evil godless radio channel.
Syndic Nuruodo on October 7, 2007 at 6:55 PM
You mean like you are forced to go to church?
EnochCain on October 7, 2007 at 8:51 PM
That’s an interesting viewpoint. Are you a Christian? If not, then it makes sense. Christians usually prefer to coerce non-believers into the “agnostic” category if they think that their proselytizing efforts have a chance to be successful. To me, it seems that they like feeling like they have a “foot in the door”.
But to answer your question, non-believers call themselves “agnostic” when they are afraid of the abuse that they will receive by calling themselves “atheist”. Or, alternatively, they are using “agnostic” as a euphemism for negative atheist (”I do not believe in god(s)”) because positive atheist (”I believe there is no god”) does not fit.
Yay, atheist radio! More blasphemy! Blasphemy 24×7! (That is genuine praise and enthusiasm, by the way.)
Loundry on October 8, 2007 at 12:46 PM
True, the Jesus in the gospel of John came off much more acid-drenched than the Jesus in the Synoptic gospels. There, Jesus speaks of an eternity in hell, which blows a hole right through the heart of your “oblivion” argument. But who said the Jesus ever had to make sense? I find much more comfort in discounting the whole thing a religious psychobabble and you should, too. Since you already ignore many things that Jesus said, I don’t see why you can’t ignore the totality of his weird sayings.
Loundry on October 8, 2007 at 12:50 PM