Video: NASA says global warming might not be the cause of Arctic ice melt

posted at 2:43 pm on October 5, 2007 by Allahpundit

They refuse to phrase it that starkly, of course, preferring to emphasize that scientists are still investigating, but the current hypothesis places the blame elsewhere. Be vewy, vewy quiet, as we wouldn’t want the media to get, er, wind of this and have their faith shaken, and click the image to watch.

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You mean capitalism and industrialization isn’t destroying the world?

Its Tommy on October 5, 2007 at 2:47 PM

Whoa, Soros must not be shelling out the $720,000 to the NASA “environmental whistleblowers” like he used to.

NTWR on October 5, 2007 at 2:48 PM

Aren’t you breaking some HotAir protocol by posting about NASA? I thought that was Bryan’s turf.

/ducks

Anton on October 5, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Able to guzzle more energy than dozens of normal men! Producing more hot air than a locomotive! Able to pile up carbon credits higher than a tall building in a single bound!!!

Look UP in the sky!! It’s ChickenLittle!! It’s FlyingSnakeOilSalesman!! It the Sultan of Chad!! It’s the Ayatollah of Heat!! No, it’sCarbonMan in a private jet painted green using the internet that he invented himself to fix any and all heretical data while holding his carbon emitting breath while doing it!!!

CarbonMan, strange visitor from an alternate reality who came to Earth with claims and scary predictions far beyond those of mortal men, disguised as Fat Albert or a Penguin on special occassions, and now joined by other members of the Royal GreenLeague such as BioFuelHummerMan and EcoCleaningWoman, they all fight a never ending battle for science-fiction, hypocrisy and the Hollywood way!

MB4 on October 5, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Aren’t you breaking some HotAir protocol by posting about NASA? I thought that was Bryan’s turf.

Allah is not fettered by such limitations.

Bigfoot on October 5, 2007 at 2:56 PM

This might be the first time I’ve ever agreed with MB4. Wow.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 5, 2007 at 2:58 PM

i just installed real player to watch this ting; and still only got to see the narration at the bottom. i hate real player.

lorien1973 on October 5, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Rats… the video won’t work for me. I’ll have to view it when I get home.

Maxx on October 5, 2007 at 2:58 PM

It’s QuickTime, not RealPlayer.

Allahpundit on October 5, 2007 at 2:59 PM

All I have to say is: BUSH.

Rick on October 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Global warming causes wind. Global warming cause all bad things.

frankj on October 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM

In celebration I just lowered the thermostat from 76 to 74….ah hell…there…72.

Limerick on October 5, 2007 at 3:05 PM

Allahpundit on October 5, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Didnt know there’s a difference? It gives a real player link for download. Oh well.

lorien1973 on October 5, 2007 at 3:05 PM

Isn’t the ice in the Antarctic growing?

Connie on October 5, 2007 at 3:06 PM

In celebration I just lowered the thermostat from 76 to 74….ah hell…there…72.

Limerick on October 5, 2007 at 3:05 PM

And I’m going to get in my gas guzzling SUV and do donuts until I get tired, and then just keep driving around the metroplex until I use up three full tanks of gas – YEEEHAAWW!! Hell, I may also burn a tire, or two in my yard…

Rick on October 5, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Meanwhile, China will beat us back to the moon while NASA studies….global warming.

No wonder nobody’s interested in the space program anymore.

World B. Free on October 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM

Re: The headline picture -

Penguins [to each other]: “Man, oh man, that global warming crap is for real, look at that Oak tree with the big mouth -growing right beside us.”

OhEssYouCowboys on October 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM

…the thick arctic sea ice, reduced by a million square kilometers.

Good riddance. Arctic sea ice only serves to further the gay agenda.

/Friday snarkasm

Mike Honcho on October 5, 2007 at 3:15 PM

And I’m going to get in my gas guzzling SUV and do donuts until I get tired, and then just keep driving around the metroplex until I use up three full tanks of gas – YEEEHAAWW!! Hell, I may also burn a tire, or two in my yard…

Rick on October 5, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Then Im going hunting just for fun and not use the meat.

P.S I know its not a carbon footprint violation but will still make the same people mad.

GoodBoy on October 5, 2007 at 3:16 PM

astroglide makes ice move easier.

lorien1973 on October 5, 2007 at 3:19 PM

“NASA must have its funding revoked and its climate credentials are now null and void. These two NASA scientists must have all their publications burned.”

-Heidi Cullen

eeyore on October 5, 2007 at 3:23 PM

Well, there wouldn’t be so much wind if it weren’t for the Haliburton Weather Machine. It’s all part of Dick Cheney’s plan to steal the Arctic, with the financial backing of the NEWYORKMONEYPEOPLE.

It’s clear as a bell, folks.

Krydor on October 5, 2007 at 3:29 PM

1. The Goracle gets into the race
2. He trumps the Glacier
3. The Tennessee waltz doesn’t play prominently for Fred or Rudy
3. NASA, once upon a time, used to be…

Entelechy on October 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM

“Whew, that’s a relief,” Gore said in a statement Friday. “I guess I was wrong after all. This is great news.”

saint kansas on October 5, 2007 at 3:35 PM

Saint kansas, if tht were to happen we would then have to deal with hell freezing over.

bbz123 on October 5, 2007 at 3:41 PM

“This is the kind of embrassment you get when you bounce a check. Bribe wisely.”
George Soros

JiangxiDad on October 5, 2007 at 4:09 PM

And I’m going to get in my gas guzzling SUV and do donuts until I get tired, and then just keep driving around the metroplex until I use up three full tanks of gas – YEEEHAAWW!! Hell, I may also burn a tire, or two in my yard…

Rick on October 5, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Just for you rick……With love of course…..

I’m just a regular Joe, with a regular job
I’m your average white, suburbanite slob
I like football and porno and books about war
I got an average house, with a nice hardwood floor
My wife and my job, my kids and my car
My feet on my table, and a Cuban cigar

But sometimes that just ain’t enough to keep
a man like me interested
(oh no, no way, uh uh)
No I gotta go out and have fun at someone else’s expense
(woah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah)
I drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane
While people behind me are going insane

I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole)
I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole, such an asshole)

I use public toilets and I piss on the seat
I walk around in the summertime saying “how about this heat?”

I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole)
I’m an asshole (he’s the world’s biggest asshole)

Sometimes I park in the handicap spaces
While handicapped people make handicap faces

I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole)
I’m an asshole (he’s a real fucking asshole)

Maybe I shouldn’t be singing this song
Ranting and raving and carrying on
Maybe they’re right when they tell me I’m wrong
Nah

I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole)
I’m an asshole (he’s the world’s biggest asshole)

You know what I’m gonna do
I’m gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado convertible
Hot pink, with whale skin hubcaps
And all leather cow interior
And make brown baby seal lions for head lights (yeah!)
And I’m gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour
Gettin’ 1 mile per gallon,
Sucking down Quarter Pounder cheeseburgers from McDonald’s
In the old fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers
And when I’m done sucking down those greeseball burgers
I’m gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag
And then I’m gonna toss the styrofoam containers right out the side
And there ain’t a goddamn thing anybody can do about it

You know why, because we’ve got the bombs, that’s why
2 words, nuclear fuckin’ weapons, OK?!
Russia, Germany, Romania
they can have all the democracy they want
They can have a big democracy cakewalk
Right through the middle of Tianamen Square
and it won’t make a lick of difference
Because we’ve got the bombs, OK?!
John Wayne’s not dead, he’s frozen,
and as soon as we find a cure for cancer
We’re gonna thaw out the Duke
and he’s gonna be pretty pissed off
You know why,
Have you ever taken a cold shower?
Well multiply that by 15 million times
That’s how pissed off the Duke’s gonna be!
I’m gonna get the Duke, and John Castive Eddies,
and Lee Marvin, and Sam Peckenthorp, and a case of whiskey,
and drive down to Texas…

(Hey! You know, you really are an asshole!)
Why don’t you just shut up and sing the song, pal?
I’m an asshole (he’s an asshole)
I’m an asshole (he’s the world’s biggest asshole)

A-S-S-H-O-L-E
Everybody
A-S-S-H-O-L-E

I’m an asshole and I’m proud of it.

doriangrey on October 5, 2007 at 4:10 PM

“Darn, I was looking forward to the chow at the Nobels.”
Al Gore

JiangxiDad on October 5, 2007 at 4:10 PM

27 out of 33 penguins surveyed said “Global warming is a bunch of QUACK QUACK!!!”

Always Right on October 5, 2007 at 4:15 PM

While we are all jumping up and down saying, “see? see? No global warming,” the left will shrug this off.

I have a close college friend whose a rabid Global Warming Advocating Enviromentalist. He sends me podcasts from NPR and links to all the global warming advocating scientists. Everytime I try to contradict their theories he always comes back with some 40-50 page study addressing it.(How they have time to do this kind of research is beyond me.)

I already know what they left will say which will be the usual bait and switch. The main point of that video is that once the ice starts melting it keeps melting and at faster rates. So we’re already up the fecal creek without the proverbial paddle. Anything we can do to keep it from expanding we’ll have to get on right away. Just remember they said that they can’t say global warming ISN’T the cause.

*shrug*

Sultry Beauty on October 5, 2007 at 4:17 PM

There are no penquins in the Artic

bnelson44 on October 5, 2007 at 4:38 PM

MB4 on October 5, 2007 at 2:50 PM

doriangrey on October 5, 2007 at 4:10 PM

LMAO thumbs up to both.

allrsn on October 5, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Sultry Beauty on October 5, 2007 at 4:17 PM

Next time he sends you somthing, offer to send your old freezer there to make more ice.

Or if you prefer send him copies of 50,000 to 100,000 year temperature charts (taken from core samples around the world) showing we are still within the normal temperature range of the planets history. (I should have several if you want)

allrsn on October 5, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Wait…

/WHACK

/gets hit by an epiphany.. and it hurts…

This has been going on for 8 years… and its hot air being blown into the wind pattern from RUSSIA…

Right about the time Putin started spoutin offf…

OH NO!!! The sea ice is being melted by the Commies!!!

Wheres Reagan when ya need him!

Romeo13 on October 5, 2007 at 5:16 PM

The consensus is in, the consensus is in….. uhhhh, what I meant to say was…..

ericire12 on October 5, 2007 at 5:23 PM

We think the engine of the world’s heating system is screwed up…the penquins say that we just blew a seal…

sabbott on October 5, 2007 at 5:26 PM

NASA must be getting its funding from the Oil Companies.

Meric1837 on October 5, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Man, watching “global warming” fall apart, I’m as giddy as a Democrat hearing about chaos in Iraq.

RightWinged on October 5, 2007 at 6:25 PM

Why was there a global warming phase that made Greenland habitable for a time by Viking immigrants …long before the internal combustion engine was invented?

Why was there an Ice Age?

Why did it end?

Until these questions are answered, the move to cripple our civilization in order to solve a “problem” that may not have anything to do with humanity seems like the acts of an… what’s the word doriangrey?

A$$hole?

(Can we all chip in and buy Al an A$$hat?
He’ll need it to hide his face in the red-faced days to come.)

profitsbeard on October 5, 2007 at 6:36 PM

In other news, North Korea’s got Gore Fever!

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il called himself an “Internet expert” during summit talks with South Korea’s president this week, a news report said Friday.

saint kansas on October 5, 2007 at 6:37 PM

But… but … I’m tellin ya…

Its da commies!!!!!!

Romeo13 on October 5, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Not too exciting. The only good thing is that they were not screaming man-made global warming at the top of their lungs as “scientist” normally do. The video had little information, they suspect unusual wind patterns, at least that’s original. But not once in the video did it mention ocean temperature, surely these guys track the ocean’s temperature, but never once mentioned it.

I don’t think these scientist are very interested in finding the answers. Of course once they do, their funding usually goes away, so really getting to the bottom of it is probably not their highest priority. If you read many scientific reports about anything at all you will quickly notice a pattern. The only thing all scientist always seem to agree on is that more study is needed. That is almost always the bottom line…. literally … of every scientific report.

I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to know if ocean temperature is increasing, the ocean ice will melt faster. According to some scientist there has been unprecedented underwater volcanic activity since 2001. These NASA guys making a video like this and never mentioning water temperature makes them seems evasive to the issue. Nevertheless it was better than the normal nonsensical screeching about pollution and CO2 and human causes and polar bears dying and oceans rising and on and on with all of that silly worn-out crap.

Maxx on October 5, 2007 at 6:47 PM

What makes ANYBODY think that he knows the “right” temperature for the earth. What arrogant fools.

Mojave Mark on October 5, 2007 at 11:46 PM

We think the engine of the world’s heating system is screwed up…the penquins say that we just blew a seal…

sabbott on October 5, 2007 at 5:26 PM

nah, it’s just a little ice cream…

urbancenturion on October 6, 2007 at 3:13 AM

1) Here’s something I’d like to see examined. If Global Warming has a large man made component, someone should be able to quantify significant differences between the Northern Hemisphere (where most of the civilized industrial world is), and the Southern Hemisphere (much less so). Atmospheric weather paaterns don’t mix much across the equator.

2) What algorithms does anyone use to determine the Average Global Temperature anyway?

3) Finally, for all the talk about a small (1-2 deg. C) temperature rise creating Chaos in the future global weather events, we’ve already seen those temperature changes from emerging from the most recent Ice Age, so, are we living through the Chaos Weather now that would have been predicted then? Seems like normal weather to me, as I bet it will in the future, because it is a dynamic system, not steady state.

Jimmy Doolittle on October 6, 2007 at 3:59 AM

I love the last line in the narration that NASA “…has the tools to study it.”

Global Warming alarmists, meanwhile, have the “tools” to proselytize about it…

Captain Scarlet on October 6, 2007 at 5:58 AM

Mother Nature is in charge and there is not anything we can or cannot do that she cannot counter the effects of to assure the balance of nature is maintained.

Being environmentally aware is more appropriate that being environmentally impaired (afraid to do anything because of unfounded theories).

MSGTAS on October 6, 2007 at 10:54 AM

Also, I could not pass up the opportunity to comment on the picture of Uncle Al trying to give penguins their marching orders. While the penguins are oblivious to the bloviator, because they really know who their leader is.

MSGTAS on October 6, 2007 at 10:58 AM

Loss of ice the size of Texas and California?

Well, then where is it? Where is the water?

Why can’t we measure what surely has to be a concomitant increase in sea level?

We have warned repeatedly that the seas will rise as the ice melts.

So where is it? I was looking forward to buying some shorefront property-

in Kissimee.

drjohn on October 6, 2007 at 1:27 PM